http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Forum: Debate! - Recent Posts en Thu, 17 Sep 2026 05:03:06 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385817 Fri, 11 Sep 2026 20:38:51 +0000 wingpig 385817@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A pillock in a nippy wee red car with an unmuffled exhaust going well over thirty in the middle of the road heading east under the bridge just before the Abbey Lane junction seemed an ideal candidate to have "SLOW DOWN" bellowed through his window as he whooshed past. Despite his speed, he couldn't have been in a rush as he found time to turn round, pursue me back along Abbeyhill and ask me if I'd shouted at him ("Yes, I shouted that you should slow down, as you were driving really dangerously") as he pulled abreast just before Croft-an-Righ. As I was on a VOI and therefore limited in agility and speed, I escaped down Croft-an-Righ as I didn't think he'd want to risk his wheels on the lumpy surface and knew there was a bollard where it joins the parade ground, but he didn't follow. Hopefully he scraped his side skirts' paint on some of the speed humps when he headed back eastwards as it looked like he'd been planning on going along Spring Gardens rather than up Abbey Lane. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385816 Fri, 11 Sep 2026 20:24:57 +0000 Morningsider 385816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ambling on foot down Newbattle Terrace earlier with Mrs Morningsider when a scaffodling wagon passes so close, and at such speed, with horn blazing that an unbidden stream of rule 2s slipped out. The guy continued to barrel down the road, continually honking the horn - all followed by a huge gust of dope smoke (although classic coked up behaviour).</p> <p>Possibly the worst driving I have seen in years - the driver was clearly off his nut. Didn't get the reg number, as I got such a fright that he was away before I thought to look. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385787 Wed, 09 Sep 2026 23:43:18 +0000 chdot 385787@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Cllr Jenkinson said: “I have decided, based on the Strategic Business Case, the consultation results and the market research that the most appropriate route to the north is through the Roseburn Path.”</p> <p>Asked if the council recommends that the tram extension to the north of the city proceeds, Cllr Jenkinson replied that the council officers recommend prioritising the southern leg of the route. He continued: “There are some challenges around the northern leg – more political than technical. We need to recognise that without political consensus delivering on any project is quite a challenge.”</p> <p>Funding for the tram extension will not in the Convener’s view come from the council coffers. He said: “I have been clear that the taxpayers of Edinburgh won’t solely be on the hook for the future tram extension.I think these sums of money that we are talking about are actually unrealistic for Edinburgh to fund in isolation. I mentioned Clyde Metro – and Glasgow City Council are not being asked to fund that. I think we need to ensure that we do secure funding and that is likely to be from multiple sources – whether it is The Scottish Government, The UK Government or a combination. But I think that for a project of such local, regional and national importance I think we need support to be able to deliver it.”</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/09/transport-committee-meeting-on-thursday-to-hear-a-range-of-views-pro-and-anti-north-south-tram-project/" rel="nofollow">https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/09/transport-committee-meeting-on-thursday-to-hear-a-range-of-views-pro-and-anti-north-south-tram-project/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20759&page=29#post-385786 Wed, 09 Sep 2026 23:40:08 +0000 chdot 385786@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Jenny Young, MSP for Central Scotland and Lothians West, has asked for a meeting with Transport Secretary, Stephen Flynn, to find out whether or not The Scottish Government will provide funding for a new railway station in Winchburgh this year. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/09/local-msp-asks-for-meeting-with-flynn-over-winchburgh-station/" rel="nofollow">https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2026/09/local-msp-asks-for-meeting-with-flynn-over-winchburgh-station/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385780 Wed, 09 Sep 2026 16:28:46 +0000 mcairney 385780@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>RIP, I've heard on the grapevine that of the other 2 cyclists injured one of them is in a bad way :(</p> <p>Not that changes the outcome in any way but there doesn't appear to be any discussion as to whether the collision was accidental or deliberate, or whether the driver has/will be charged with anything. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385776 Wed, 09 Sep 2026 10:43:43 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 385776@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Man killed after car collides with three cyclists in Port Glasgow"</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjzm38pyyko" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjzm38pyyko</a></p> <p>ETA</p> <p>"The male driver of the Ford vehicle, aged 33, was also taken to hospital but has since been released. The A8 has reopened and enquiries are ongoing to establish the full circumstances."</p> <p>In what other fashion can a human being kill another human being and still be allowed home in time for dinner??</p> <p><a href="https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cyclist-dead-port-glasgow-crash-37642259" rel="nofollow">https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cyclist-dead-port-glasgow-crash-37642259</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385766 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:10:42 +0000 neddie 385766@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Councillors and officers will forever tie themselves up in knots, as long as they try to maintain car through-routes in the city. Deal with that first! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385765 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 13:09:15 +0000 neddie 385765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Princes St: Fully pedestrianised and tram only</blockquote></p> <p>I meant to say with "slow cycling" allowed (much as on Rose St) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385763 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 11:31:05 +0000 chdot 385763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Too sensible</p> <p>Carnorm UK</p> <p>And</p> <p>ThisIsEdinburgh </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385761 Tue, 08 Sep 2026 10:08:11 +0000 neddie 385761@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they would just ban through-traffic for cars across the city centre, all of these compromise points would melt away.</p> <p>IMHO:</p> <p>Princes St: Fully pedestrianised and tram only<br /> George St: Widened pavements, segregated uni-directional cycle lanes on each side and ~50% of the buses only. No cars.<br /> Queen St: The other 50% of buses, and crucially no-through route East-West for cars<br /> Lothian Rd / Mound / North Br: all bus-gated, no through-route for cars.</p> <p>All neatly dividing the city into quarters. With additional filters in the northern New Town to prevent rat-running. </p> <p>All of this could be done in a minimalistic way, none of it needs to be gold-plated. The fancy "quality paving" can be filled in later. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385756 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 18:07:12 +0000 wingpig 385756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"conditional on the preservation of safe, segregated active travel corridors on both"</em></blockquote></p> <p>I find it very concerning that the most physically conceivable component of anything to do with the northern tram extension is the installation of decent/usable cycling paths along an alternative route to replace what will be lost/degraded/compromised/out of action for anything up to ten years (delete according to personal pessimism settings) if work were to proceed on the Roseburn.</p> <p>There are a couple of stretches of the CCWEL which almost get it right - imagine the Melville Street section (or even the West Coates section (but much wider and without the wiggles at side roads and with fewer deliberate pedestrian/cyclist conflict points)) transplanted to the very wide/straight Queensferry Road. The design principles, space, physical infrastructure materials and so on all exist, and the intended users would be well within the load-bearing capabilities of the surfaces involved.</p> <p>Unfortunately, the next step is "but how would it inveitably end up being done wrong?", starting with making it bi-directional but too narrow, or wiggly, or removing all the trees and hedges at the roadside during the process so that heavy machinery doesn't have to be used as carefully. Next, move the cycleway ten metres up each side-road it crosses, then remove any hints of a raised crossing or pedestrian/cycle priority, then add some crossing-activation buttons in stupid places, then have it switch which the side of the road it's on a couple of times (with concomitant crossing-waiting times and some more narrow right-angled turn bits), then add enough kerbs to make it difficult to escape the lane to turn right or join it half-way along, then finally remove it entirely along some sections and add a narrow right-angled Leith Street-style exit channel to funnel cycles back into motor traffic... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385755 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 14:45:50 +0000 chdot 385755@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://archive.ph/2026.09.07-113322/https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26527833.edinburgh-cycle-group-members-back-tram-plans-roseburn-path/" rel="nofollow">https://archive.ph/2026.09.07-113322/https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26527833.edinburgh-cycle-group-members-back-tram-plans-roseburn-path/</a></p> <p>“</p> <p>The curious case of Dominic Cummings and the Edinburgh trams campaign</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/the-curious-case-of-dominic-cummings?" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/the-curious-case-of-dominic-cummings?</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385746 Sat, 05 Sep 2026 23:06:49 +0000 chdot 385746@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/sep/05/police-seize-200k-lamborghini-under-tightened-antisocial-driving-laws" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/sep/05/police-seize-200k-lamborghini-under-tightened-antisocial-driving-laws</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385745 Sat, 05 Sep 2026 16:30:17 +0000 chdot 385745@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>With over 1000 members, we received 233 valid responses, many of which included comments. Our big thanks to Resources Group member David Monaghan for organising the survey and the analysis, including checks that responses were from Spokes members only. And thank you if you are a Spokes member and took part.</p> <p>Northern Tramline Extension<br /> On the northern tramline extension, there is very strong agreement (over 80%) on an extension. However marginally over a quarter of members (27%) say this must be via Orchard Brae, whilst marginally under a quarter (23%) say it must be via Roseburn; whilst 30% find both options acceptable. Thus, in total, 57% find the Orchard Brae route acceptable, and 53% the Roseburn route, a difference well within 95% confidence levels, as in the graph below from the above full report.</p> <p>Importantly, comments suggest that support for either route is conditional on the preservation of safe, segregated active travel corridors on both.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.spokes.org.uk/2026/09/spokes-members-views-on-tramline-city-centre-controversies/" rel="nofollow">https://www.spokes.org.uk/2026/09/spokes-members-views-on-tramline-city-centre-controversies/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7059&page=153#post-385728 Thu, 03 Sep 2026 20:38:05 +0000 Arellcat 385728@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I watched I think eight members of the SRYT Massive this evening on Colinton bridge. They came in three groups, all in their safety balaclavas and Buffs, and demonstrating their mad wheelie skillz. They disappeared down the access road to the former Colinton station, whence they could have gone east or west.</p> <p>Probably ought really to put SRYT shenanigans in the rubbish driving thread. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385727 Thu, 03 Sep 2026 19:15:27 +0000 mcairney 385727@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One side effect of the Summerhall crossroads revamp is cars are now treating it as an extra right-turn phase. They should’ve put cameras in </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20759&page=29#post-385687 Tue, 01 Sep 2026 08:16:44 +0000 chdot 385687@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Sensitivities over the Union Jack-style rebranding of Britain’s rail network have been laid bare by Network Rail apologising to the chief executive of Transport Scotland after she “hit the roof” at seeing it displayed at a major Glasgow station run by Scottish government-owned ScotRail, The Scotsman has learned.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/union-jack-style-great-british-railways-branding-at-major-glasgow-station-angers-scottish-government-officials-8951217" rel="nofollow">https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/union-jack-style-great-british-railways-branding-at-major-glasgow-station-angers-scottish-government-officials-8951217</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20759&page=29#post-385672 Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:13:12 +0000 chdot 385672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>For two weeks in October, there will be no trains from Kirkcaldy to Inverkeithing, while Cross County and LNER services between Aberdeen and London, which stop at those stations, will also be hit.</p> <p>ScotRail has said there will be replacement buses, and some services will be diverted or cancelled as major engineering works get underway on October 10, lasting until the 23rd.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=20759&page=29#post-385632 Fri, 28 Aug 2026 10:27:54 +0000 chdot 385632@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/28/britain-railways-struggling-heat-fixed-derailments-explainer" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/aug/28/britain-railways-struggling-heat-fixed-derailments-explainer</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7059&page=153#post-385591 Tue, 25 Aug 2026 15:35:25 +0000 chdot 385591@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Road safety statistics up to 2025 also show a trend in dangerous driving for young people, particularly young men, being on the rise, with 77 people aged between 16 and 20 dying last year, compared with 65 the year before and 55 in 2016, the largest rise of any age group. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/25/more-people-arrested-over-a66-crash" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/25/more-people-arrested-over-a66-crash</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21305#post-385571 Mon, 24 Aug 2026 13:56:53 +0000 edinburgh87 385571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Great if so! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21305#post-385563 Mon, 24 Aug 2026 08:43:01 +0000 chdot 385563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The northern section of Edinburgh's proposed new North-South tramline looks likely to be shelved due to disagreements over the route. </p> <p>Councillors are due to vote next month on whether to take forward the Capital's latest tram project, costed at between £2 billion and £2.9 billion for the full line from Granton to the Royal Infirmary and the BioQuarter. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://archive.ph/2026.08.24-052705/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburghs-north-south-tramline-northern-section-likely-to-be-shelved-amid-controversy-over-roseburn-path-plans-8933704" rel="nofollow">https://archive.ph/2026.08.24-052705/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburghs-north-south-tramline-northern-section-likely-to-be-shelved-amid-controversy-over-roseburn-path-plans-8933704</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=21346&page=9#post-385561 Mon, 24 Aug 2026 08:40:20 +0000 chdot 385561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The northern section of Edinburgh's proposed new North-South tramline looks likely to be shelved due to disagreements over the route. </p> <p>Councillors are due to vote next month on whether to take forward the Capital's latest tram project, costed at between £2 billion and £2.9 billion for the full line from Granton to the Royal Infirmary and the BioQuarter. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://archive.ph/2026.08.24-052705/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburghs-north-south-tramline-northern-section-likely-to-be-shelved-amid-controversy-over-roseburn-path-plans-8933704" rel="nofollow">https://archive.ph/2026.08.24-052705/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburghs-north-south-tramline-northern-section-likely-to-be-shelved-amid-controversy-over-roseburn-path-plans-8933704</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385556 Sun, 23 Aug 2026 19:44:32 +0000 Frenchy 385556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I drove through Banff, which also has relatively recently-introduced 20 mph speed limits, several times a few weeks ago. I don't think the limits there are being particularly well observed, but I suspect a decent chunk of the people now doing 25/30 were doing 35/40 a year ago. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385554 Sun, 23 Aug 2026 11:59:45 +0000 mcairney 385554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Possibly the opposite but was up in Banchory seeing the in-laws which is now largely 20mph and....drivers actually follow the speed limits. Going at my usual 23-24mph indicated where I'd have cars behind me so close up my bumper I could see what the driver had for breakfast and I'm pulling away, requiring a minor adjustment to my driving habits.<br /> A welcome, if slightly unnerving experience. Also when out on the bike on the whole the drivers passed wide and safe, only one close pass of note. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385533 Fri, 21 Aug 2026 08:06:19 +0000 gembo 385533@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mainly taxis and drivers who ignore the Closed signs as err it isn’t closed, there is one barrier at the Grassmarket end - I watched a car stopped at it but after a cyclist went round it so did the car. Two barriers at the Pleasance end but the guy in the van just moves it to let you through.</p> <p>There was one big transit van that was probably delivering theatrical equipment to sneaky Pete’s or other venue. Or maybe just driving through as it isn’t closed.</p> <p>Further FOI - how much did you spend on advertising saying the Cowgate is closed when it isn’t closed? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385523 Thu, 20 Aug 2026 17:10:22 +0000 wingpig 385523@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...Places at Festival. Time or whatever they are called..."</em></blockquote></p> <p>"Festival Streets"?</p> <p>I would also ask:<br /> Are there supposed to be some sort logistics-hub-style arrangements or delivery time restrictions for the loading and unloading of Fringe-related substances and paraphernalia, or were the six different angry psychopaths blocking various sections of Buccleuch Street/Potterow with their diagonally-slewn vehicles last Thursday all following official guidelines? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385521 Thu, 20 Aug 2026 14:35:48 +0000 Arellcat 385521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This morning I too encountered someone using their mobile phone whilst driving. I managed to remember the colour of the vehicle and the branding on the door, and vague details of the driver, but I was in disguise as a bus passenger so couldn't make out things like registration. Nonetheless I have written to the company to remind them of the law. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385520 Thu, 20 Aug 2026 13:29:07 +0000 gembo 385520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good to keep on top of these things @bakky</p> <p>Is there an FOI we can do to the Places at Festival. Time or whatever they are called.</p> <p>I would like to ask</p> <p>1 How closed is the Cowgate?<br /> 2. With this man6 cars being driven through the semi-permeable pedestrianism d space in the Cowgate are you not worried there is going to be an accident?<br /> 3. If you are closing a street why cant you close the street? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&page=386#post-385517 Thu, 20 Aug 2026 12:29:44 +0000 bakky 385517@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Driver of a 'DMG Services' white pickup reg DMG 2X was ahead of me through a busy grassmarket around midday. Failed to stop at a zebra crossing for someone about to cross, repeatedly and obviously looking at lap to use mobile phone, and then stopped fully in the bike box as I waited in it to turn right down Lady Lawson St.</p> <p>Oooooh weeee he did not take kindly to my patter of 'nice bike' and subsequent pointing out of the bike box. The kind of seething, bile-ridden "see you, you have a nice day pal" that barely masks a coke habit and a tendency to scale lampposts with a saltire to cable tie up there. Looked up their website and it turns out he's the founder, naturally. Still debating whether to review-bomb them on Google Maps.</p> <p>As he drove away I shouted "you're not coming to my birthday party". It's only fair he's warned now. </p>