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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Tag: BMW primary Gogar - Recent Posts</title>
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<title>chdot on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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carltonreid: &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BMW has an iPhone app: 'The Ultimate Drive - Discover the best roads'. Useful for finding out which roads to avoid, perhaps? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Original Tweet: &#60;a href=&#34;http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/102068310081937409 &#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/102068310081937409 &#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;carltonreid: &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;RT @KarlOnSea: I won't have a word said against BMW drivers, as they apparently own the roads I cycle on &#38;amp; I don't want to upset them. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Original Tweet: &#60;a href=&#34;http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/102072873342087168&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/102072873342087168&#60;/a&#62; &#60;/p&#62;
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<title>splitshift on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;positive bmw tales ? Actually seem to be rather a lot of negative tales about a silver bmw. Mine involved a 5 series, maybe this is actually one very dangerous driver !
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<title>gembo on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Was overtaken by silver BMW on hill coming up the back way out of Heriot Watt. Absolutely tanking it but in all fairness went completely into the opposite lane and gave me a decent wide berth, I am on the lookout for similar positive BMW stories to add to the millions of negative ones we all have.
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<title>wingpig on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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Heading east through the single-channel temporary lights on Comely Bank Road, this roars out from behind me to squeeze past to slow down when it reaches the car three metres in front of me. It then rolled gently into the cycle box at the Saunders Street junction despite having had thirty metres' warning of the need to stop. As a final flourish, it then failed to notice the left-turn filter light turning green for a good ten seconds, during which dinging my bell and waving at its mirrors had no effect.
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<title>gembo on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 07:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A car that looked like a BMW executed a piece of sympathetic shared road use with me on the bike recently but it turned out it was a Skoda (is it volkswagon who own them?)
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<title>kaputnik on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Chump of the day. (Yes, that was their parking space)
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<title>crowriver on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;In the interests of balance, can I just say that I was pleasantly surprised yesterday evening while heading out for a jaunt on the wee folding Raleigh. A gunmetal grey BMW overtook me, leaving so much space and being so careful that I gave a cheery quick salutary wave in appreciation. So they are not all bad. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My serenity was rudely interrupted a few seconds later when a bottle blue Corsa driven my a young male gunned his engine (souped up, loud exhaust) and roared past with just a few inches to spare on my right. This time it was a middle fingered salute in the direction of his rear view mirror, which was promptly returned by the driver. Passing him 30 seconds later at the traffic light queue, and noting the driver side window was rolled down, I may have made some jocular reference to his overcompensating with his motor for a lack in another department.
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<title>gembo on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 09:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Last night I was running along the country road between Balerno and Currie. Wet and lot of surface water on the road.  I was on the right hand side heading east - ie facing into any oncoming traffic [of which there was none]. I could hear a car coming behind me at high speed much spray of water being displaced etc as it was clearly bombing along I took the precaution of stepping into the gutter. Yes a silver BMW tanking it down the middle of the road, not on his side, down the middle, I can only assume he was trying to buzz me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Regardless I am still on the look out for well driven BMWs
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<title>gembo on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This afternoon we were driving down Johnsburn Road in Balerno and a BMW series 3 estate crawled out  in front of us and crawled over the roundabout - my partner and I were laughing and the driver did put his hand up to indicate he was causing bother.  The car then crawled up to the lights and proceeded slowly along Lanark Road West - as we approached the bus stop the bus indicated it was pulling out so the BMW went into the oncoming lane and accelerated rapidly past the bus.  We caught up again at the next bus stop as the BMW was again crawling along.  Crawled to carpark at Currie Co-op at teh entrance it came to a stop then after a second turned in.  I asked my partner whether it was not normally the custom to use the left hand indicator light to alert traffic that you were turning left.  My partner replied that she understood that this was standard practice.  All very odd.
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<title>splitshift on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;bl***y beemers ! today, headin east about 11,30, M8 into roundabout onto city bypass,i was in my truck, doing 49mph.Seriously,49mph in a 50.I come up behind another lorry doing even less, about 44 i think, of with cruise control, tap on the brake, the auto box drops half a gear. I let about six cars and vans overtake me, spot a large gap in the traffic approaching from the rear, re engage cruise control and pull out to overtake, safely and considerately.Just before I pull in to complete my manuvore, feeling relaxed. A small renault I think goes by as I reach the inside lane, peeeeeeeeeeeep !A 54 plate, silver grey 5 series ,tooting wildly. passenger seat is occupied by I assume the drivers, 12yo ish son, looking a bit worried.i flash my headlights, to signal my pressence on the road to the other road user and perplexy ensues ! out of the drivers window come the drivers arm,making a rude, self massaging gesture !I was no longer the target of his rage as a small people carrier now had the affront to be in his way ! much flashing of headlights and tooting of horn and suddenly leaps into nearside lane to undertake said car.never to be seen again !I then had a relaxing drive to englandshire.&#60;br /&#62;
GET A LIFE ! or at least start thinking about your worried looking son !&#60;br /&#62;
the return journy, encountering RHS traffic was a joy to behold as many cars suddenly found themselves sneaking into the nearside lane, just managing to sneak in front of my big lorry !&#60;br /&#62;
dont tell them but I was into overtime,earning a fortune, getting paid by the hour ! I will gladly lt them all in front !&#60;br /&#62;
more tales from the cab to follow !&#60;br /&#62;
ps my bikes makin a strange noise from the front calliper, so its spanners again this weekend.&#60;br /&#62;
be safe !
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<title>kaputnik on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997&amp;page=2#post-34178</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>kaputnik</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7GTSobwZRI&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7GTSobwZRI&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Yes, it's a BMW&#34; and proof that it's not just cyclists that are shown such disregard - it's other cars too.
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<title>kaputnik on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997&amp;page=2#post-33893</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Spotted on twitter (thanks Steveo!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2011/06/10/supermarkets-to-crack-down-on-disabled-customers-using-bmw-parking-bays/&#34;&#62;Supermarkets to crack down on disabled customers using BMW parking bays&#60;/a&#62; brought a smile to my face to brighten a grey monday.
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<title>Nelly on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997&amp;page=2#post-32146</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 17:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hang, draw and quarter him, I tell ya !!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Actually, I cant believe he only got 3 points and £60 for 10 seconds on red - I got the same for tripping a red by one second (momentary lapse, I have no speeding points!) in my passat a couple of years ago.
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<title>chdot on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Even the ENews says so, so it must be true...&#60;/p&#62;
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In one incident caught on camera earlier this year, a serious accident was narrowly avoided after a BMW driver ran a red light at the junction of Colinton Road and Gray's Loan.&#60;br /&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Amber-gamblers-put-on-red.6774104.jp&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Amber-gamblers-put-on-red.6774104.jp&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>wee folding bike on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-32029</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Perhaps it's not grit, could be Icelandic ash again.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I saw a gully cleaning lorry this morning but, in the heavier grit deposits, it was just moving it around.
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<title>gembo on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-32024</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 20:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think I said that I kbnew some civil and responsible BMW drivers [that was before the Juniper Green outrage].  I was swayed by Greenroofer's logic on why BMW would have both accidental and intentionally bad drivers.  Obviously, no empirical evidence as I nthink iw as also trying to point out that seeking out our prejudices to have them confirmed is not scientific and Karl Popper would urge us all to try to destroy our hypothesis.  Thus, if it hadn't been for the Juni Green outrage and the wind I would have set off today looking for polite BMW drivers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I have a flat cap, a Kangol, in has a stud at the front to open it up a bit more into a Gilbert O'Sullivan/Hovis boy number. Quite natty. Used in school plays about WW2 a fair bit.  Much dust flying around on way back from town this pm [along with trees, bin lids etc]  Time of year for dust/grit?  Rigg Race above Balerno cancelled tonight due to wind and trees falling.
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<title>wee folding bike on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-32010</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 18:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>wee folding bike</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's a FWD Kadet. My Chevette was an older RWD model.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The only car I ever did over a ton in was a Volvo 345. I suspect that's unusual for the 1.4 l version.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The last time I bought a car, November 2004, I left one dealer saying that they didn't have anything big, old and cheap enough.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've never had a flat cap but I should have put the Lowe Alpine hat on this afternoon. I've got hair grit because of the wind. The hat was a bit wet from the morning so I didn't bother wearing it on the way home.
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<title>crowriver on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-32001</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>crowriver</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The extreme gusts of wind finally claimed my flat cap this afternoon, wrenching it from my head and whisking it a 100 yards away, over a wall onto an adjacent road. Bit of a b*gger as I was towing a cycle trailer full of shopping, had to do a swift left turn downhill to retrieve the blighter. The (capless) uphill with 40+ kg of shopping and gusty headwinds was great fun!
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<title>Nelly on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nelly</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Wee Folding Bike - it was a mustard yellow one - cant remember the model, but like this one if image comes thru  -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Opel_Kadett_D_early_one_in_England.jpg&#34;&#62;mustard kadett&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Front end concertina'd and everything exploded out the dash on impact !!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not like these modern safe bmw's......   ;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Greenroofer - correct, diesel 3 series is no 4 in the charts - more registered per annum than ford mondeos.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Some of us clearly wont agree about this subject, thats life, debate is healthy !!
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<title>Smudge on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31959</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Smudge</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;HEY, leave off the flat caps :-p ;-))&#60;br /&#62;
Mine kept my head at a comfortable temp, mostly dry and kept the rain out of my eyes this morning. Top cycling headwear for the fully waterproofed up gentle progress type of ride!&#60;br /&#62;
(It's ok though, I have never owned an allegro or a 3 box volvo or indeed a Rover 75, though I must confess my first mini was BL Beige)
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<title>mgj on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What has happened to the Allegro drivers who then bought Volvo 340 and more recently beige Rover 75s?  The flat cap and car combination was a great help in identifying road users to be avoided in the 80s/90s
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<title>Greenroofer on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@anth at work - Scientific research &#60;strong&#62;is&#60;/strong&#62; needed. The key data we need is how many of each make/model of car is on the road. Immediately we'd then know whether the reason that some* drivers of certain marques are a perceived problem is simply that there's more of that kind of car on the road. I found data last night from &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.smmt.co.uk/shop/motor-industry-facts-2011-2/&#34;&#62;SMMT&#60;/a&#62; for new registrations in 2010, but that's not the whole story. I couldn't find the complete breakdown for registered vehicles.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interestingly, though, BMW 3-series are well up the list of most-frequently registered cars last year. Although perceived as a 'prestige' marque, there's a lot of them produced every year.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;* for the avoidance of doubt, I fully recognise and accept that not &#60;strong&#62;all&#60;/strong&#62; [&#60;em&#62;insert marque here&#60;/em&#62;] drivers are [&#60;em&#62;insert generalisation here&#60;/em&#62;]. My thesis is simply that some marques encourage some people to overrate their abilities and take excessive risks that we, as cyclists and drivers, watch with dismay on the roads.
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<title>Dave on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;&#34;Our current family cars are a BMW 3 series and a Golf.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do my driving abilities and attitudes change when I swap cars with my wife for child pickups etc?&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No - but compared with someone who owns a Golf and a Volvo it would be expected that your driving behaviour would be worse driving either car?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Two obvious examples we can probably all relate to - taxis and bus drivers. We've all experienced courtesy from taxis and dangerous antics from bus drivers, but by and large I'd rather find myself holding up a bus than a taxi! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not only that, but I don't think it's much of a leap to say I'd rather be holding up an off-duty bus driver than an off-duty taxi driver.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All that is required is to think about aggressive drivers in general rather than yourself. Are aggressive drivers likely to prefer certain types of car over, say, VW camper vans, hybrids or whatever? Sure, some camper van drivers might be nutters but think about the nutter in isolation, trying to decide what car to buy.
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<title>chdot on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@anth at work - it's fine being a lawyer these days. 'Target' group is now bankers.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(The ones that have chauffeurs...)
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<title>kaputnik on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;you forgot &#34;mountain biker&#34; :)
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31935</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;For what it's worth, as an Englishman, a cyclist, a lawyer, and a Mini driver, I'm used to having a heck of a lot of sweeping statements directed my way... ;)
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31934</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Nelly, from Greenroofer&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;em&#62;It could therefore be possible that certain kinds of car are more likely to display bad driving because they &#60;strong&#62;may&#60;/strong&#62; contain two kinds of bad driver, rather than just one.&#60;/em&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The 'may' is important. It's a suggestion for why certain brands of car may stick in our minds more, or seem to be seen doing daft things more, rather than an, &#34;&#60;em&#62;all Beemer drivers are eejits&#60;/em&#62;&#34; statement.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The point was, most certainly, that it is the &#60;em&#62;driver&#60;/em&#62; to blame, and not that someone changes depending on which car they happen to drive. There are idiots in all forms of transport, and idiots in all marques of car, it's just it &#60;em&#62;seems&#60;/em&#62; there are more (more, not all) idiots in &#60;em&#62;certain&#60;/em&#62; marques.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We need some scientific research into this!
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<title>wee folding bike on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31927</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 11:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>wee folding bike</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What kind of Kadet?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I had a R reg Chevette. It was awful.
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<title>recombodna on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31903</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 10:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>recombodna</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;...not may sierra drivers on the road these days eh?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Had a guy in a renault yesterday show his anger at me cycling at 25mph in the middle of my lane by flying past me at about 50 in a 30 an inch from my handle bars.Then giving me  a load of flanel about the rules of the road when sitting at the lights. I feel sorry for him. Imagine being that much of an @***?
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<title>Nelly on "Dear Bayerische Motoren Werke AG"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2997#post-31900</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 09:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nelly</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So by the same rationale all convertibles must be  hairdressers cars, all honda civics are driven by pensioners, all 4x4s by women taking their kids to private school ??&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Our current family cars are a BMW 3 series and a Golf.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do my driving abilities and attitudes change when I swap cars with my wife for child pickups etc?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps I endanger my son when he is in my car, but suddenly morph into captain sensible when in the golf ????&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I dont think so, but am interested in how the collective anti beemer brigade would deal with this conundrum?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps I should also foster some resentment toward sierra drivers - or women drivers - as it was this combo that gave me injuries and wrote off my kadett in the 80s?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But I dont - that would be tarring everyone with the same brush........
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