http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: cycle to uni - Recent Posts en Tue, 19 May 2026 00:59:59 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115310 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:42:33 +0000 Tulyar 115310@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aside from a spelling lesson, or explaining the difference between extent and extend, I think we deserve to learn what research and substantiation they have for some of the claimed benefits. How do they measure a society being greener or greenest? Please do not submit answers on a piece of paper as it involves cutting down trees and a very energy intensive process of pulping bleaching etc.... </p> <p>More seriously though, a University with an eye on the bottom line, of reducing the call on resources might find that provision of free bicycles to travel between widely spaced campus sites, might be a lot cheaper than sending a 7 figure sum (as one London University does) on free inter-site bus services, which offer a lower level of service than the immediacy of jumping on a bike and cycling. Likewise one Cambridge College simply closed a car park, and built on it (Edinburgh likewise?) as a more profitable use for the land. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115286 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:34:18 +0000 Morningsider 115286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Two Tired - I've no problem with that. I don't think the cost of a bike is really a barrier to cycling. I suspect most beneficiaries of the CTW scheme could have bought a bike without the aid of the scheme - although I don't blame them from taking advantage of it. I like edd1e_h's suggestion, although I suspect a cut in VAT on bikes rather than abolition would be more likely. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115281 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:19:17 +0000 Two Tired 115281@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider you could just as easily point all who have benefitted from the CTW scheme to a second hand bike shop. £1000 for a bike to cycle to work?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115277 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:12:59 +0000 neddie 115277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not in favour of complex schemes like C2W, that the government can change the rules on at a whim.</p> <p>A simpler way to promote cycling is just to make all bikes VAT free. End of. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115275 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:00:26 +0000 Morningsider 115275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've very little sympathy with this campaign. Lots of people in more difficult circumstances than most students could benefit from taxpayer subsidised transport. Also, the fact that it would require the student to have parent(s) who worked for an employer that participated in the scheme would presumably leave many unable to participate.</p> <p>Perhaps better to point these people towards the Bike Station - for a decent quality second hand bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115272 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:53:27 +0000 amir 115272@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suspect the vast majority of students buy cheap used bikes </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115271 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:46:11 +0000 Two Tired 115271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That is where the CTW scheme fails since students are not employed by the university I know but it makes more sense to me for the Universities to own the bikes than the parents. And fits in with their active travel agendas And opens the 'scheme' up to more students who might not have parents who have access to the scheme.</p> <p>EDIT: Or simply extend the CTW scheme so that parents can purchase bikes for their family members not just themselves. But again, the family members are not being employed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115269 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:42:10 +0000 amir 115269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But the Universities aren't the employers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115268 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:35:59 +0000 Two Tired 115268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It seems to me that the method they are suggesting is pretty flawed. Far better to approach the universities I would say. Though I am extremely ignorant as to whether this has been tried. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115267 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:32:22 +0000 SRD 115267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They've leafleted bikes in George Square. Not very effectively though. more litter than for POP or Bike Breakfast </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115266 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:31:12 +0000 Two Tired 115266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>this is the answer from the facebook page as to how they see it working:</p> <p><em>parents would pay for the bike through work, for the student. it would be at the discression of the parent/student whether or not the student pays their parents</em></p> <p><em>so the discount is based upon the parents income</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115200 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:53:29 +0000 Instography 115200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No but there's surely better ways of spending it than giving it to me to buy (another) bicycle? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115195 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:47:19 +0000 cc 115195@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Better to spend the tax money building motorways? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115193 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:38:26 +0000 Instography 115193@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose it could operate as a direct subsidy or as an adjunct to student loans. Wouldn't be opposed to either of them. I've always thought it pretty outrageous waste of tax money to give people like me a discount on a bike. Needless to say, I thought that while I was pocketing the subsidy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115191 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:36:05 +0000 Instography 115191@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How would it work? Couldn't they just join an employer's cycle to work scheme? If the problem is that they tend to work in occupations dominated by small businesses or employers that don't operate schemes like than then there's a more general issue of making these types of schemes available to workers in those sectors, not a student issue. That problem would stem from the fact that C2W schemes require the employer to do all sorts of admin and payroll fiddling that would be burdensome for a pub or restaurant. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115188 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:21:24 +0000 SRD 115188@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I sure paid tax when I was a student. Far more than elsewhere. In Canada you get your tax burden reduced based on amount of tuition paid and a certain percentage also based on how many months you were in education that tax year. I almost always ended up getting money back from the government. Then I came here and all my income was taxed - including scholarship. With no recognition that I was a student. Completely backwards. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115185 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:16:02 +0000 cc 115185@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That was what I wondered but their flyer says that it "would benefit over half of all students". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115183 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:11:37 +0000 amir 115183@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure that they can save income tax if they don't pay it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10516#post-115179 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:05:34 +0000 cc 115179@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>While walking through Bristo Square this morning I met a group of students who are running a "Cycle To Uni" campaign.<br /> They'd like the Cycle To Work scheme to be extended to students.</p> <p>There's <a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cycle-to-university">a petition</a><br /> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/cycletouni">a facebook page</a>. </p>