http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: Graeme Obree - Recent Posts en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:11:03 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7903#post-79659 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:00:16 +0000 conradski 79659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New 8 part series dedicated to cycling on ITV4. Not exactly mainstream viewing but watching Graeme Obree's unveiling his new innovation 'Beastie', and advice on road safety is to 'go wobbly' is worth it.</p> <p><a href="http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=322052" rel="nofollow">http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=322052</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68158 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:45:28 +0000 crowriver 68158@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@spytfyre - yeah that works too. That new photo is Greek, by the looks of that alphabet.</p> <p>This is the version I have on my office wall:</p> <p><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/transportw.jpg/"><img src="http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4618/transportw.th.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68156 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:38:38 +0000 amir 68156@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But I'd agree that we shouldn't get too hung up on the numbers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68152 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:36:10 +0000 amir 68152@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It should be fairly easy to get an (under) estimate just by standing on the Royal Mile and counting the cyclists passing. Much easier than making the estimate in the Meadows or Parliament. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68144 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:19:51 +0000 spytfyre 68144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Crowriver - not got time to do that at work - finding better option of grabbing the google preview - and finding a newer image from Russia(?)</p> <p>regarding number, idea: Give every bike a number to zip tie on, they keep it til next time and assume the same place in the queue at the start so they can meet the same strangers again and again and start to make new friends and connections...<br /> Spread you and your family out along the queue so you get even more new friends. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68143 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:19:02 +0000 chdot 68143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It was 3001.</p> <p>I counted them.</p> <p>Simple truth is - no-one knows. (Unless the CIA had a satellite overhead).</p> <p>It was never possible to see them all.</p> <p>There are definitely around 2000 in this pic, and, by various accounts, a lot out of sight on Melville Drive.</p> <p>People were still arriving. Some will have joined en route and others will have gone straight to Holyrood.</p> <p>Doesn't entirely matter. </p> <p>A lot.</p> <p>More than expected.</p> <p>And yet, not many in the big scheme of things.</p> <p>Important thing is that a lot of people were doing it for the first time and were enthused/inspired.</p> <p>Key thing is keep up pressures/momentums.</p> <p>We've won bits of the argument - it should be 'safer' to cycle, but now there are institutional pressures to be 'more visible' and 'wear protection'.</p> <p>We haven't got across the message that many people would prefer to cycle rather than drive (for some journeys).</p> <p>We haven't really got through to CEC that fixing the basics - potholes, drop kerbs etc. - is important to cyclist AND pedestrians.</p> <p>BUT there are now more people who want things to get better! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68138 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:07:28 +0000 amir 68138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Next time (....) we'll have to arrange an official count. I'd be happy to volunteer (though I am rubbish at counting despite my profession). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68133 Tue, 01 May 2012 11:55:11 +0000 steveo 68133@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Right click on the image and click "View Image" it shows it as large as it'll go. (Firefox any way) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68132 Tue, 01 May 2012 11:53:42 +0000 crowriver 68132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, I have that image too. Try shrinky dinkying it in your favourite image editing software first. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68131 Tue, 01 May 2012 11:50:48 +0000 spytfyre 68131@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For those trying to determine how many were there:<br /> <a href="http://cdn4.diggstatic.com/story/car_bus_bike/o.png"><img src="http://cdn4.diggstatic.com/story/car_bus_bike/o.png"></a><br /> That's the space taken up by 60 people car/bus/bike<br /> Looking at the 60 bikes I think you could easily multiply that up by 40 or 50 for the meadows queue...</p> <p>Damn the crop<br /> <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-M-Edwn-coI/Si50FPnBOHI/AAAAAAAADwI/yUjB0o2My2k/s400/CarVsBikesVsBus.jpg"></p> <p><a href="http://www.koitatopoulaki.com/Events/Bikerespect-Photographs/Bikerespect/Teliko-Megalo-jpeg/854507620_MYsBH-L-3.jpg"><img src="http://www.koitatopoulaki.com/Events/Bikerespect-Photographs/Bikerespect/Teliko-Megalo-jpeg/854507620_MYsBH-L-3.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68043 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:22:48 +0000 PS 68043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In defence of the London showing, did you see what the weather was like down there on Saturday? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-68037 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:15:44 +0000 Rabid Hamster 68037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I reckon about 2,300 to 2,700, and I work in the business of counting heads at events in Edin. A lot melted away just after the speeches got going at Parliament, so a head count at the grass probably was not representative of those who actually cycled the route! So nice to see little kids and parents, and getting large chunks of the street given over to cyclists! Well done to the organisers, a good afternoon was had by all including the Polis! RH </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67533 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:49:22 +0000 Claggy Cog 67533@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>London: pop 7,825,200, Scotland: pop 5,222,100 (2010 estimate). </p> <p>To be fair some cyclists did come from a long way away to attend the POP. I imagine it was not only London residents either in London. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67528 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:32:26 +0000 chdot 67528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Even 'pretending' that POP was whole of Scotland - pretty impressive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67525 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:27:57 +0000 SRD 67525@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>can someone more clearhaded than me at this point do the right comparison: London 10,000 out of ? pop, versus Scotland 3000 out of ? pop </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67524 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:25:30 +0000 MeepMeep 67524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD - That's astonishing!</p> <p>@Bax: Taxi driver merrily carried on having a go at those who dared look at him until he turned onto South Bridge. I told him to "have some respect, mate"... His linguistic skills didn't seem to have improved in the time it took to make my comment! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67523 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:25:05 +0000 SRD 67523@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>the Times - still our newspaper of record? - says 3000! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67521 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:15:44 +0000 SRD 67521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>it took 25 minutes for a very dense line to pass up middle meadow walk. we were still on MMW when the first cyclists got to holyrood (confirmed both by a friend there who rang us, and police there who were rung by the tail police)&gt; I brought 120 cyclists from harrison park - there were far more than 10 times that in the main ride. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67520 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:15:07 +0000 SRD 67520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>it took 25 minutes for a very dense line to pass up middle meadow walk. we were still on MMW when the first cyclists got to holyrood (confirmed both by a friend there who rang us, and police there who were rung by the tail police)&gt; I brought 120 cyclists from harrison park - there were far more than 10 times that in the main ride. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67516 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:05:55 +0000 ExcitableBoy 67516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bax said "I think there was probably around 900.</p> <p>Happy to be wrong, though."</p> <p>I tried twice to count people as we were outside Parliament - I got 900 to 1000 also, but it was VERY difficult and it could easily have been 1500, but agree with Bax - happy to be wrong. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67492 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:02:39 +0000 Arellcat 67492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The word on the street was 'about 2500'. I was about halfway between MMW crossroads and Argyle Place, and the line of cyclists behind me was stretching quite a long way along Melville Drive when the lead group started moving. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67490 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:52:53 +0000 Min 67490@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't know how accurate the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17879553">figure given for the London ride is</a> but so far we compare very well to it, BBC are saying over 5000.</p> <p>(I thought we had about 3000 as well but I don't know how good I am at estimating crowd size. There was a huge number of people anyway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67489 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:43:39 +0000 crowriver 67489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I first showed up around 2.15, it looked like under 1,000. But then a load of people arrived, it got really busy. The line of riders took about half an hour or more just to leave the Meadows. We were near the back and it seemed like ages...</p> <p>There were about 300 folk outside St Andrews House in January. This was so much bigger. I had a look around when the final riders arrived at Holyrrod and it was more than 2,000, that's for sure. I though about 3,000 or more. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67484 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:13:09 +0000 minus six 67484@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think there was probably around 900. </p> <p>Happy to be wrong, though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67482 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:05:01 +0000 crowriver 67482@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, I reckon about 3,000 people there, maybe more. I've seen 1,300 cyclists two years ago, and this ride was at least twice that size. </p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6315">"Hundreds" in the media</a>: welcome to the world of spin. I recall an anti-poll tax demo I attended down in London a long time ago. Must have been 20,000 folk there, it was reported as 8,000 though. Don't expect those stories to be changed unless lots of folk badger the media outlets concerned... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67481 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:57:22 +0000 BenN 67481@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Did he persevere with his folly?"</p> <p>I was about a third of the way back, cycling next to the dapper gent in tweed, and the Taxi driver (as well as the BMW behind him) had a go at him, which the majority were rather outraged by - think he may have bitten off more than he could chew... (hint - mr Black Cab, if you plan on picking a fight with a cyclist, try not to do so when there are 3000 other cyclists, and the police, backing him up...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67479 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:46:42 +0000 Min 67479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Did he persevere with his folly?"</p> <p>I don't know but he was swearing and foaming as we went past, we were reasonably near the start though, just a few hundred back I think.. I wonder if it was the same one who threw a psycho at Kaputnik the other day? He sounds equally out of control if it wasn't.</p> <p>That was just ace! Really enjoyed seeing soo many people there. Looks as if the wheels really are turning on this revolution. :-)</p> <p>Many many thanks and congratulations to the organisers! I hope you are all giving yourselves huge pats on the back. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67476 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:41:00 +0000 minus six 67476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye, that taxi driver was a wonderful stereotype. I exchanged a few swear-words with him at the lights. Did he persevere with his folly?</p> <p>Quite a surreal scene at the end there, down at the parliament... looking down at a thousand bobbing yellow highlighter pens... I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. </p> <p>Still, its got to start somewhere. Hope this is just the beginning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67475 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:22:51 +0000 MeepMeep 67475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This ride (and the Polwarth feeder ride too) was impressively organised and was so well co-ordinated. I'd like to congratulate all involved on such a wonderful job.</p> <p>Shame about the taxi driver running his mouth off at the crossroads of the bridges and Royal Mile. I'm sure he felt the swearing was wholly appropriate for the number of wee ears about. It just acted as an apt example of exactly why we were cycling today.</p> <p>It was great to see so many different kinds of people all gathered together with the same aims. What a turn-out! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6309#post-67451 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:47:11 +0000 cc 67451@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/hoy-and-obree-back-bid-for-safer-cycling.17412999">Hoy and Obree back bid for safer cycling</a> </p>