http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: health activetravel - Recent Posts en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:02:44 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-298601 Thu, 03 Jan 2019 11:36:32 +0000 I were right about that saddle 298601@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More words added to the pile;</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/03/why-exercise-alone-wont-save-us" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jan/03/why-exercise-alone-wont-save-us</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-292848 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 08:20:34 +0000 chdot 292848@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Thinking outside the box‘</p> <p>INDEED!</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19167&amp;page=2#post-292846" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19167&amp;page=2#post-292846</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-292844 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 08:12:12 +0000 I were right about that saddle 292844@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thinking outside the box;</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/05/scottish-gps-nhs-begin-prescribing-rambling-birdwatching" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/05/scottish-gps-nhs-begin-prescribing-rambling-birdwatching</a></p> <p>Excellent idea. Interesting to see it rolled out in cities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-273108 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:26:34 +0000 minus six 273108@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>when all else fails</p> <p>we can whip the horse's eyes </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-273071 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 19:08:49 +0000 crowriver 273071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS, dunno, it's a tricky one.</p> <p>Getting folk out of their cars and off their sofas has got to be a start. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-273046 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:26:29 +0000 I were right about that saddle 273046@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver</p> <p>Fair enough. What do you think the way forward is? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-273037 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:31:31 +0000 chdot 273037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ Morningsider</p> <p>Thanks! Missed that one.</p> <p>Good news.</p> <p>Now CEC just needs to get on and spent some (and/or get some staff to make it possible to spend it). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=3#post-273029 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:47:13 +0000 crowriver 273029@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh, in case folk didn't recall/notice/care about the "Road Safety" reference above:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE15EtuA6Z8" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE15EtuA6Z8</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-273027 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:41:49 +0000 crowriver 273027@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS, so much straw there I'll need a combine harvester to cut it all down.</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66AGQBZQHsE" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66AGQBZQHsE</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-273013 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:54:32 +0000 Roibeard 273013@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good to hear the confirmation. Cynically I'll say that this confirmation has only come about since they were caught trying to redirect the money, and if they hadn't have been called out on it, it would quietly have become an electric car fund!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-273012 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:51:15 +0000 Morningsider 273012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>chdot - yes, the Transport Minister told the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee on 20 December 2018 that:</p> <p>"Just to clarify, the additional £80 million will absolutely be for active travel—</p> <p>John Finnie: And it will not be used for charging points.</p> <p>Humza Yousaf: No, that is part of the sustainable travel money. That will come largely from the future transport fund, which is being increased by more than 100 per cent. I hope that that provides some clarification."</p> <p>Details: <a href="http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=11282&amp;mode=pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/report.aspx?r=11282&amp;mode=pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-273008 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:40:21 +0000 chdot 273008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“an electoral programme based on telling folk their kids are going to cycle to school would be suicidal wouldn't it?“</p> <p>We’ll never know.</p> <p>A programme <em>seriously</em> encouraging/enabling ActiveTravel would be a start.</p> <p>Any car-restricting measures best not mentioned too loudly (though there <em>might</em> come a time when it’s clearly reasonably popular.</p> <p>One problem remains - whatever Govs (UK and Scottish) say, they rely on LAs to deliver. So if a scheme is unpopular locally, Gov can look other way.</p> <p>Similarly LAs can say ‘Gov didn’t give us enough money’.</p> <p>Has the SG ‘money doubled for ActiveTravel’ (or maybe ‘sustainable travel’ - inc electric cars) claim been clarified yet? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-273001 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:05:37 +0000 I were right about that saddle 273001@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver</p> <p>I was being quite serious. <a href="https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2017-2019/0005/18005.pdf">This Bill (particularly Clause 11)</a> would allow the London parliament to freely make law in areas where it presently allows the Edinburgh parliament a free hand.</p> <p>For all that Scottish governments of all stripes have clearly been uninterested in, and uncomprehending of, active travel they are at least close at hand for the purposes of lobbying.</p> <p>Anyway, an electoral programme based on telling folk their kids are going to cycle to school would be suicidal wouldn't it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272998 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:48:32 +0000 crowriver 272998@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This'll help keep obesity in check. </p> <p>(Dons glasses, hi-viz and serious face) I'm also convinced Dashboard Dining is A Major Contribution To Road Safety.</p> <p>---</p> <p>Scotland's first drive-through bakery open for business<br /> Stephens Bakery offers pastries, rolls and cakes to dashboard diners in Dunfermline.</p> <p>From Thursday, customers at Stephens Bakery in Rumblingwell, Dunfermline will be able to buy pastries, hot rolls and cakes without leaving their car. Stephens managing director André Sarafilovic, 54, attributed the idea to his wife Rona, 53, who has worked for the business since she was 16-years-old. He said: "Time is of the essence now. Everyone seems to be out of time so this stops you from getting out of your car. Dashboard dining is a big thing. It was really my wife's idea."</p> <p><a href="https://stv.tv/news/east-central/1406475-scotland-s-first-drive-through-bakery-open-for-business/" rel="nofollow">https://stv.tv/news/east-central/1406475-scotland-s-first-drive-through-bakery-open-for-business/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272992 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:23:23 +0000 crowriver 272992@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Would the great English government be preferable?"</p> <p>That's such a straw man, Worzel Gummidge would invite him round to Aunt Sally's for a nice cup of tea and a slice of cake.</p> <p><img src="http://nostalgiacentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/worzel_022.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272978 Fri, 19 Jan 2018 09:25:15 +0000 I were right about that saddle 272978@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>My Irish friends at work have made me an Irish passport.</em></p> <p>My maternal great great grandmother was Irish, though she crossed in a fishing boat, changed her name on arrival and never spoke about it so no one is quite sure which county she was from. Have a word with your mates see if I qualify? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272937 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:04:20 +0000 gembo 272937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like the guy Mickey D that is prez of Ireland. My Irish friends at work have made me an Irish passport. sadly they used the photo of me as an 18 year old deck chair attendant Ayr beach from my British and overseas passport you used to just pop in to the post office and buy before going inter railing in the day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272933 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 20:51:16 +0000 I were right about that saddle 272933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver</p> <p>Would the great English government be preferable? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272924 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:40:00 +0000 crowriver 272924@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You mock the great Scottish government at your peril, non-believers. Everyone knows this country leads the world in health - we'll show them how it's done. Our amazing tax and spend policies have produced...er...the highest rate of obesity in the world after Polynesia, US and Mexico...</p> <p>Would like to go large on the fries with that order? Shall we bring it direct to your car? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272922 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:32:01 +0000 chdot 272922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good question. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272921 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:15:02 +0000 I were right about that saddle 272921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot</p> <p>You laughing or crying? I don't know which to do first. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-272919 Thu, 18 Jan 2018 19:00:28 +0000 chdot 272919@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>The First Minister is one of 14 members on the new body, which is looking at how tax and spending policies can help fight lifestyle diseases such as cancer and diabetes.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15864163.Sturgeon_to_join_international_fight_against_lifestyle_disease/" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15864163.Sturgeon_to_join_international_fight_against_lifestyle_disease/</a></p> <p>Perhaps some of the other 13 will be able to explain the benefits of ActiveTravel. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258508 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:18:18 +0000 unhurt 258508@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No worries, and I knew it hadn't been intentional! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258485 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:54:07 +0000 Morningsider 258485@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>unhurt - thank you. It never hurts be reminded that words can have consequences, regardless of your intentions. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258478 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:51:24 +0000 chdot 258478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I feel the less severe are my various self-destructive behaviours."</p> <p>Whole debate there on whether "self destructive" is due to ignorance/lack of knowledge or conscious choice or?! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258476 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:31:40 +0000 I were right about that saddle 258476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>if you want to improve the health of the whole country, you need to make big structural changes because while the middle classes can afford to avoid the cheapest processed food, the very poorest have little choice and bear the brunt of it</em></p> <p>If you want to improve the health of the whole country, you need to <em>want</em> to improve the health of the whole country. I'm not at all sure there's a consensus for that yet.</p> <p>The big structural changes that are needed are;</p> <p>i) for wealth inequality to be hugely reduced and,<br /> ii) for all of us to be taught and obliged to get involved in big decisions having direct impact on our lives.</p> <p>This from my empirical observation that the more integrated into society and hopeful I feel the less severe are my various self-destructive behaviours.</p> <p>PS I note with sadness the most recent step change in public health was due to the rationing and physical activity (and sense of equality and purpose?) imposed by WWII. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258475 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 08:09:40 +0000 acsimpson 258475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Given the problems with pedestrian crossing timings it's quite possible to walk around town for an hour without ever getting more than a few minutes of continuos exercise. I would see if that effect was taken into account. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258471 Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:53:27 +0000 sallyhinch 258471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was a very good Life Scientific on Professor Graham MacGregor, who got the food industry to gradually reduce the salt levels in most processed food. It's interesting on many levels but mainly for his insistence that if you want to improve the health of the whole country, you need to make big structural changes because while the middle classes can afford to avoid the cheapest processed food, the very poorest have little choice and bear the brunt of it. He was very clear that salt in the diet was a structural issue and by tackling it right across the board, they actually saw measurable reductions in salt intake and population-wide reductions in blood pressure. Which is quite amazing when you consider we probably got more sedentary over that period.</p> <p>He also has one of those supremely self-confident BBC English voices which really does sweep all objections before it. I can see both how ministers and food bosses just buckled before him. I found myself wondering 'how can we get him to take on cycle infrastructure as his next cause?' Unfortunately he's already taken on reducing sugar from our diet, so even he might have his hands full. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258468 Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:10:46 +0000 unhurt 258468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Structural issues need structural solutions, yes? </p> <p>(FWIW I'm really uncomfortable with categorising other human beings as "a wheezing, gelatinous mass"* or other similar statements that sometimes pop up here. No matter what the intent. Sometimes I think otherwise apparently kind and socially ept people on this forum would look at some of my closest friends and mentally consign them to a bin marked "fat and thus clearly worthy only of my pity." You surely don't mean it that way, but I wouldn't be keen to have them read some of our threads...)</p> <p>*lack of movement and time outside is indeed a slow-motion public heath emergency. But public health emergencies are generally not caused by individual poor choices. They emerge out of the things that structure the lives of most people in a society. (Hstory is very revealing on this point. Reading - for example - about Victorian public health and where the blame was often laid is quite enlightening. And depressing.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14222&page=2#post-258424 Sun, 27 Aug 2017 12:21:07 +0000 I were right about that saddle 258424@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Perhaps a future fleet of kayaks could join city bikes?</em></p> <p>Not forgetting the jetpacks. </p>