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<title>NiallA on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 08:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@unhurt, @crowriver&#60;br /&#62;
Or these - close copy of Jones H-bar?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/HBOOGBV2/on-one-geoff-handlebar&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/HBOOGBV2/on-one-geoff-handlebar&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>unhurt on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309736</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 05:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Do you think you will sell the Genesis then? &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BLASPHEMY.
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<title>crowriver on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@unhurt, maybe consider these? Only £30.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.cyclesense.co.uk/m61b0s372p24452/HUMPERT-Ergotec-Space-Bugel&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.cyclesense.co.uk/m61b0s372p24452/HUMPERT-Ergotec-Space-Bugel&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;I can see the appeal of some very slow off-road touring&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can think of a route for a fat bike.
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<title>Sheeptoucher on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They sell those bars at Bikemonger!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do you think you will sell the Genesis then?
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<title>unhurt on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309718</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 19:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>unhurt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm leaning dangerously towards blowing the rainy day fund here... If I'm eschewing plane travel for holidays I can see the appeal of some very slow off-road touring &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Meanwhile, Troll desires faded a bit when I realised I could go with my drops-to-flats switch on the Disc Trucker only I now want a set of these like burning: &#60;a href=&#34;https://surlybikes.com/parts/moloko_bar&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://surlybikes.com/parts/moloko_bar&#60;/a&#62; (not looking up the price, I assume it's Lots).
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes, the term 'bikepacking' has been captured by extremists and kit manufacturers. I have tried to liberate it to cover any outdoor overnight off-road journey by bicycle.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That would cover both images. Slow and comfortable, hard and light a bikepacker's a bikepacker for a that an a that.
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<title>crowriver on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309630</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@IWRATS, touché.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You know what I meant. When I hear Surly Big Dummy talked about regarding touring I think of something like this:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://i0.wp.com/nexusexpedition.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/big_dummy.png&#34;&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://i0.wp.com/nexusexpedition.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/big_dummy.png&#34;&#62;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Whereas bike-packing makes me think of something more like this:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gearjunkie.com/uploads/2016/08/Roll_With_It_Bikepacking_pic.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.gearjunkie.com/uploads/2016/08/Roll_With_It_Bikepacking_pic.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 14:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The opposite of bike-packing is flying to Dubai to go to the shopping malls.
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<title>crowriver on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309609</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;long-range bike packing rig&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That's the opposite of bike-packing surely? BD is for big loads. Plenty of &#34;extreme touring&#34; been done on these beasts to my knowledge. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;When I owned a Kona Ute I used it for cycle camping a few times. It was pretty good for that, but a trailer is better in many ways.
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<title>Darkerside on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Cracking price for the BD. Plus you're worried about chain slap on a forum &#34;full&#34; of recumbent deviants - We Have The Technology to deal with it.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309592</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>I were right about that saddle</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The Big Dummy would be fun as a long-range bike packing rig. Suspect chain slap would cut it in two eventually but it would be fun while it lasted.
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<title>unhurt on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309589</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>unhurt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;oh NO, they have a Troll too. This is a hard day to be internet &#60;strike&#62;window&#60;/strike&#62; shopping!
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<title>unhurt on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309588</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>unhurt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's a very difficult choice that, @wingpig...
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<title>wingpig on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309587</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Think how many WiFi-enabled thermostatic radiator valves you could buy instead...
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<title>steveo on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309585</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Doooo it. It is your destiny...
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<title>crowriver on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309581</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>crowriver</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Step Away From The Website.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Or your account will be short a couple of grand...
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<title>unhurt on "Bikemonger Surly Sale!"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19690#post-309580</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>unhurt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I am staring unwise unplanned spending in the face here. Help?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.bikemonger.co.uk/surly--ice-cream-truck-2017-16041-p.asp&#34;&#62;Am I too tall at 5'7&#34; for a small framed Ice Cream Truck????&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>NiallA on "Cramond Road North"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16913#post-231611</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>NiallA</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Some of the stops have been removed in the last week or two: not sure which ones (if any) are left now.
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<title>himupstairs on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The stops  might still be there, but I don't think there are any services that go down the road.
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<title>cb on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Has it still got the bus stops halfway down the road that no one has ever used, does ever use, or will ever use?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think they were only there to boost the number of fare stages back when that was a thing.
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<title>gibbo on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;&#34;I wondered if anyone else knows the road&#34;&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've lived in Davidsons Mains for the last couple of years and I know the road as both a cyclist and a walker...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;...And, using either of those forms of transport, it's an utterly hideous experience.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Simplest improvement would be adding much-needed speed cameras.
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<title>himupstairs on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Cargilfield is ultimately off limits as a general route, yes. I wouldn't encourage people to use it frequently, but I will probably continue to use it occasionally (I also have a get-out being closely linked to a member of staff).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As for Cramond Road North/South and Barnton Gardens, I do struggle to imagine anything ever happening that will improve the situation for cyclists, as gloomy as that sounds.
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<title>NiallA on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;From Guidance notes for the Scottish Outdoor Access Code (Part 2 Access Rights), section 5 reads:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The main places where access rights do not apply are:&#60;br /&#62;
• houses and gardens, and non-residential buildings and&#60;br /&#62;
associated land;&#60;br /&#62;
• land in which crops are growing;&#60;br /&#62;
• land next to a school and used by the school;&#60;br /&#62;
• sports or playing fields when these are in use and where the&#60;br /&#62;
exercise of access rights would interfere with such use;&#60;br /&#62;
• ...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So to my mind that means Cargilfield is off-limits.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edit: sorry - crossed with barnton to town...
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<title>barnton-to-town on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 section 6(1) (b) (iii) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I guess you're right about Cargilfield being inaccessible to the general public (not because it's private as such, but because it's a school).
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<title>barnton-to-town on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@NiallA&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Land Reform Act applies, I think, unless there's exclusions for schools and such like.
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<title>NiallA on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Forgot about Cargilfield, but as it's privately owned, there's presumably no right of way, so I wouldn't want to use it (they would be able to bring a case for trespassing?). Maybe the Council could negotiate a deal for cycle access and the school could spin it as a PR triumph!
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<title>NiallA on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>NiallA</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Klaxon,&#60;br /&#62;
Maybe behind the wall to the right of the CRN image you posted? An off-road path that could connect to any more new build houses in that field, between the CRN/ Gamekeepers junction and the mini roundabout (which could then continue on via shared use footway). Plus we could shoot for the moon and continue the path in the other direction to connect to Cramond Primary via Gamekeepers Road. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It would need lots of continuous cycle/ footway priority minor road crossings etc, but not impossible? Presumably the main issue would be purchasing the strip of land immediately behind the wall.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The other end crossing might be tricky - it would probably have to be at the junction with Lauriston Farm Road, which is where there will be a 20mph/ 30 mph change next summer onwards... Maybe we actually need traffic lights there? (It is a bit of an awkward junction now anyway, and the traffic volume alone might justify it.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does that sound like a half-way sensible plan?
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<title>himupstairs on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's certainly possible, within term times at least - I do it regularly. It's the preferred route when cycling back to D Mains from the Cramond Inn.
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<title>cb on "Cramond Road North"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Is it still possible or 'acceptable' to cut through Cargilfield School? Depending on the end destination in Cramond, going that way via the golf course path wouldn't be much further.
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