http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: Law - Recent Posts en Wed, 13 May 2026 01:50:46 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176675 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:18:32 +0000 Nelly 176675@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Confirmation bias about cyclists on pavements.</p> <p>Its a police matter.</p> <p>Would said complainer post on a football forum if offender was a pedestrian with a Hibs or Hearts scarf on?</p> <p>And what reaction would they get? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176671 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:09:06 +0000 condor2378 176671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Angry Gods are Best Gods </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176670 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:05:51 +0000 Uberuce 176670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cyclist sent a pedestrian flying but didn't fall off himself?</p> <p>How to deal with cyclists who flout the laws of physics like this? Well, given he's apparently an angry sort, might I suggest we worship him as a god? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176667 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:47:16 +0000 condor2378 176667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>&lt;sarcasm&gt; Maybe the sun was in his eyes and he couldn't see the guy on the pavement? Seems a valid excuse for car drivers killing cyclists. &lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p> <p>But still, pavement cycling is an offence so basically what Morningsider said. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176664 Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:51:20 +0000 Instography 176664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you were going to make up a story would you choose to break a supposedly unbreakable bone or would you go for a more probable and therefore more plausible injury? While it's true that the scapula is rarely broken, a brief consultation with Dr Wiki confirms that where breakages occur:</p> <p><em>High-speed vehicle accidents are the most common cause. This could be anywhere from a car accident, motorcycle crash, or <strong>high speed bicycle crash but falls and blows to the area can also be responsible for the injury</strong>.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176657 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:30:46 +0000 minus six 176657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To my mind, a cyclist is someone who primarily cycles on the road, give or take the occasional infraction.</p> <p>The <em>guy on the bike</em> in this story sounds more like someone who routinely uses a bike on the pavement, and wouldn't dream of using the road, ever. </p> <p>We all see them. They lack any confidence to use the road. Their saddle is usually far too low. They are often in the wrong gear ring, pedalling like billy-o. The pavement is convenient for their haphazard riding style.</p> <p>Somewhere along the way, the <em>guy on the bike</em> has forgotten he has no right to use the pavement in this manner. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176655 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:04:27 +0000 neddie 176655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The story sounds made up to me. It is almost impossible to fracture your shoulder blade. It is a very strong bone indeed. The collar bone is far weaker and would most likely be broken in any fall. (Normally the shoulder blade smashes into the collar bone and breaks it instead.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176654 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:56:21 +0000 Morningsider 176654@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Generally, anyone cycling on a footway or footpath in Scotland is committing an offence under the provisions of Section 129(5) of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984. The investigation (and normally also the enforcement) of cycling offences is a matter for Police Scotland. </p> <p>The police generally issue fixed penalty notices for most cycling offences, which require the payment of a £30 fine. However, someone found guilty of cycling on the pavement, on summary conviction, could be liable for a fine of up to £500.</p> <p>In summary:</p> <p>Cycling on the pavement is an offence<br /> The police are responsible for investigating reports of pavement cycling<br /> There are established penalties for this offence</p> <p>I don't really see how it could be any other way. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176652 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 19:58:36 +0000 Smudge 176652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I don't want you thinking we are tarring every cyclist with the same brush by publishing this, but its the minority that gives law abiding cyclists a bad name.</p> <p>How should these cyclists be punished? "</p> <p>Sorry this reads like a trawl for quotes, or to be more honest, a troll. I would however be delighted to be proven wrong... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176653 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 19:58:22 +0000 Arellcat 176653@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The fact that the person A who injured person B was on a bike and on the footway really makes no difference. Of course bikes should not be on the footway.</p> <p>But if person A had instead been someone wearing a dark hoodie and dark trainers, running along the footway at top speed, and caused the same injury to person B, how would you report the individual and suppose to catch him? You'd appeal for witnesses and perhaps check CCTV, and there'd be calls for people to run on the road, not the footway.</p> <p>&lt;gripe&gt;<br /> This is the same SWD/EWD, is it not, who once included a photograph of a red torpedo, which was in fact waiting in line in a queue of stationary traffic, and also by not being powered by infernal combustion was as far removed from the description as possible.<br /> &lt;/gripe&gt; </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14165#post-176651 Mon, 29 Dec 2014 19:42:42 +0000 Scotland's Worst Drivers 176651@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The account below was emailed in by a pedestrian.</p> <p><strong>"I was knocked down by a rogue cyclist on the pavement on Grove Street yesterday Sunday 28th December 2014. </strong></p> <p>"He was going the wrong way too, heading from Morrison Street direction to Fountainbridge.</p> <p>"As he hit in to me, I went flying and he shouted, "Get out of my f**king way". </p> <p>"I fell, and as I fell, I felt a sharp pain in my shoulder, I put that down to falling hard on a slab. </p> <p>"I later went to hospital and I was diagnosed with a hairline fracture in my shoulder blade. </p> <p>"I discussed the incident with Police at the hospital, and they told me that since they have no way to identify the cyclist, it would not be possible to track him down.</p> <p>"All I could tell them was the cyclist was white, dark hair with a dark jacket on, on a dark framed bike."</p> <p>I don't want you thinking we are tarring every cyclist with the same brush by publishing this, but its the minority that gives law abiding cyclists a bad name.</p> <p><strong>How should these cyclists be punished?</strong> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11218#post-126268 Fri, 27 Sep 2013 21:04:44 +0000 neddie 126268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You can have ma bi...cycle when you prise it outta ma cold dead hands. Papa go get yur gun. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11218#post-126232 Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:12:34 +0000 Arellcat 126232@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What do you expect from a state where people still wave the Confederate Flag in a non-ironic manner?</p> <p>(and extended families probably still race around in orange stock cars while being chased by the police) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11218#post-126184 Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:00:40 +0000 AKen 126184@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nasty piece of legislation, sponsored by the Republicans, naturally.</p> <p>It would appear to make it illegal for children to ride their bikes in the street in front of their houses unless registration fees have been paid and the bike marked with registration plates. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11218#post-126177 Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:26:32 +0000 ARobComp 126177@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/689" rel="nofollow">http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/20132014/HB/689</a></p> <p>Georgia House Bill 689 would eliminate certain rights of cyclists on public roads including the right to ride 2 abreast and the right to ride in groups of more than 4, and impose a registration tax on bicycles </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6601 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:30:44 +0000 chdot 6601@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"now we've moved on to music..."</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wnOUH2jk8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wnOUH2jk8</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/blogs/article/songs-about-bicycles-19539" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikeradar.com/blogs/article/songs-about-bicycles-19539</a></p> <p><a href="http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/40278/top-10-bicycle-songs/" rel="nofollow">http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/40278/top-10-bicycle-songs/</a></p> <p><a href="http://bikesongs.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://bikesongs.blogspot.com</a></p> <p>etc. (new thread someone....) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6599 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:26:18 +0000 recombodna 6599@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I used to have a mini clubman estate with a 1300 engine......best car I ever had..sob gone now sob!! and the motorbike hasn't seen action for a couple of years..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6597 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:20:39 +0000 spytfyre 6597@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>now we've moved on to music... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6596 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:19:13 +0000 chdot 6596@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Why would you choose the MG BGT over the normal MG B?"</p> <p>He must be a Richard Thompson fan.</p> <p><a href="http://www.elyrics.net/read/r/richard-thompson-lyrics/mgb,,gt-lyrics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elyrics.net/read/r/richard-thompson-lyrics/mgb,,gt-lyrics.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6594 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:17:01 +0000 spytfyre 6594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>yup </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6592 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:14:58 +0000 chdot 6592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This forum is de-generating.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6591 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:12:56 +0000 wee folding bike 6591@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've got a '71 VW 1600TE Fastback with rear seat belts. They aren't original but the mountings were always there.</p> <p>It's not a great choice for a classic car as the parts are more difficult to find than Beetle or Kombi parts. It hasn't moved since early '02.</p> <p>Why would you choose the MG BGT over the normal MG B? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6589 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:12:24 +0000 spytfyre 6589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd go with the mini </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6587 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:08:45 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 6587@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm torn at the mo between a Mini, MGB GT and Triumph Spitfire as a wee starter classic... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6586 Thu, 06 May 2010 12:03:03 +0000 spytfyre 6586@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>the 40 year old mini also costs a shed load less to maintain, my honda cost me £400 for a new catalytic converter and a further £400 for back exhuast when my escort cost me £55 for the whole assembly... also the insurance is crazy cheap, however it doesn't have seatbelts in the back and none can be fitted as it was the last model to leave the production line before they even thought of adding the achor points that future belts could attach to... so it is far away from being a "family car" and as such gets left to sit until I need to somewhere solo beyond the range of bike and too far from a train station </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6545 Wed, 05 May 2010 15:00:23 +0000 recombodna 6545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's a good point ! I wonder if classic car drivers are subjected to the same "road tax' speil as cyclists.....? "that mini's 40 years old you have no right to be on the road etc etc blah blah" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6091 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:44:02 +0000 spytfyre 6091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Arellcat - Oh I called in after not receiving it (they claimed they had sent it)<br /> Apparently the "third part" they sent it to are not lawyers and it didn't cost a penny to the council</p> <p>I will be looking the letters out of my crap pile of paper work sometime over the weekend, calling the company and asking them directly...</p> <p>@recombodna - I have two cars, one of which is a classic and does less than 1000 miles a year, so I pay my tax and pay it well, if you like I could put the tax disc from that car on my bike as it is safely parked off the publis highways and byways :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6089 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:37:36 +0000 recombodna 6089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why should you get a bean?? After all you don't pay road tax.....no pay no say!!!;p</p> <p>God I'm Hilarious </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-6088 Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:24:53 +0000 Arellcat 6088@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So how are the FOI requests doing? Any responses yet? Anth asked about road condition surveys, Spytfyre asked about FOI costs, and in the Meadows paths thread Dave asked about path legalities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=483#post-3659 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:46:43 +0000 Arellcat 3659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>20 working days for a response, remember. If it goes beyond that, or if you have a case for being unhappy with (traditionally, the lack of) information released, you're entitled to ask them to conduct an independent review, which may or may not find in your favour. You could even then raise an entirely new FOI request for sight of the review document...which isn't quite in the spirit of the FOISA but is allowed, and on it goes. </p>