http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: Leith Walk - Recent Posts en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:07:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-301263 Tue, 12 Feb 2019 22:16:07 +0000 HankChief 301263@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Myreside road anyone...</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/JarlathFlynn/status/1095255511606456321?s=19" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/JarlathFlynn/status/1095255511606456321?s=19</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-287440 Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:28:25 +0000 dougal 287440@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You'll need a permanent team outside Greggs and maybe some bell-ringers chanting Shame! Shame! Shame! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-287425 Sun, 22 Jul 2018 19:48:46 +0000 HankChief 287425@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's what to do when a 'parked' car blocks an unsegregated cycle lane. Block off the car lane and create a human protected emergency cycle lane of course...</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/BellsOnBloor/status/1020742891713515520?s=19" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/BellsOnBloor/status/1020742891713515520?s=19</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280507 Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:12:07 +0000 dougal 280507@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/dougalstanton/status/986661695643947008" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/dougalstanton/status/986661695643947008</a></p> <p>Preparation for the bollards, by blocking the way to fix a totally unrelated pothole in the road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280428 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:35:58 +0000 Ed1 280428@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose it could be if emergency vehicles need to drive in the cycle lane would need to be soft to avoid causing damage and relaying response. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280427 Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:07:13 +0000 paulmilne 280427@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was wondering about the collapsible aspect of the bollards as well, it can only be so largish vehicles can go ahead and drive over them to park. Either that or they don't do damage when they are inevitably bashed into. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280403 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:44:11 +0000 I were right about that saddle 280403@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I'm not sure why the bollards are to be "collapsible"</em></p> <p>Excellent CCE humour. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280400 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 17:14:27 +0000 gibbo 280400@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Given a very positive spin on the BBC. </em></p> <p>A very misleading first sentence:</p> <p>"Special new cycleways are to be built in a bid to protect cyclists from traffic on Edinburgh's busy roads."</p> <p>No, on short sections of one of Edinburgh's busy roads. </p> <p>Hopefully, it'll be a good thing, though I'm not sure why the bollards are to be "collapsible". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280385 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:39:19 +0000 I were right about that saddle 280385@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Lesley Macinnes, City of Edinburgh Council's transport convener, said: "We want to make sure our roads are as safe as they possibly can be for everyone who uses them...</em></p> <p>[Rule 2]. She wants everyone to tip-toe around private motor vehicles while their drivers behave like puce-faced toddlers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=7#post-280383 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:17:13 +0000 urchaidh 280383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Given a very positive spin on <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-43796626">the BBC</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-280378 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:29:41 +0000 dougal 280378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If the uphill section becomes segregated from the traffic light onwards will this change the behaviour of cyclists at the red light? Will this change the expected behaviour?</p> <p>If people in the bike lane start ignoring the red light more, there will be more conflict with pedestrians who have the green light outside Gaia. Hopefully this conflict will be 'manageable' because speeds will be slower because people won't feel as pressured to pelt it alongside motor vehicles.</p> <p>Oh the excitement of repeatedly patching a bad design! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-280359 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 12:00:47 +0000 Klaxon 280359@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's worth it even if they only stay for a couple of years.</p> <p>Hopefully a good lesson learned that can feed into the tram plans </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-280356 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 11:28:21 +0000 dougal 280356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So, do these people know about the tram plans? I hope they keep the receipts for these kerbs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-280346 Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:42:01 +0000 Frenchy 280346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/blog/newsblog/post/1303/scottish-first-as-new-measures-to-keep-cyclists-safe-go-in-on-leith-walk" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/blog/newsblog/post/1303/scottish-first-as-new-measures-to-keep-cyclists-safe-go-in-on-leith-walk</a></p> <p>"23rd April – 4th May: MacKenzie Construction undertaking works to install cycleway delineators at the locations noted above" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-278846 Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:09:24 +0000 dougal 278846@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Left hand, right hand. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-278836 Wed, 28 Mar 2018 10:50:11 +0000 crowriver 278836@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So we'll have about 12 months to enjoy the facilities before Leith Walk is dug up for the tram and portacabins, HERA fencing etc. are dumped all over them...</p> <p>Hurry up LiDL and finish the Easter Road store so my journeys down Leith Walk can be fewer in 2019... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-278828 Wed, 28 Mar 2018 09:19:13 +0000 McD 278828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Latest news from Rob Leech:<br /> The contract is now in place to install the delineators as per our previous discussions. It was awarded on 5 March and materials were ordered immediately by the Contractor. The lead-in on materials is approximately 5 weeks so I anticipate work starting on site after the Easter break.</p> <p>The reason the contract was not awarded until 5 March was due to the Road Safety Audit taking longer than anticipated and the fact the Council had to run a procurement as the Crummock final account had been settled and the completion certificate for Leith Programme Phase 4 issued. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-277400 Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:25:51 +0000 sallyhinch 277400@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Saw this and thought of Leith Walk ... (especially the parked on bike lanes)</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/urbanthoughts11/status/973902712030064640" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/urbanthoughts11/status/973902712030064640</a></p> <p>I don't speak German but the gist of it seems to be: park your bike right in the middle of the road with a sign on it saying 'just popped into the shop, back in 5 mins'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274699 Thu, 08 Feb 2018 11:27:49 +0000 Harts Cyclery 274699@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>McD has covered it pretty comprehensively, but for completeness, here's my response from the TEC Policy Advisor dudette:</p> <p>Thank you for your email. In regard to the replacements, I can advise that the Orca replacement design is now almost complete and the Council will be installing bollards on fixed kerbs at 3m centres. In finalising the design we have had a number of discussions with representatives from Spokes who have provided some very useful feedback. The design team is now awaiting the outcome of the formal Road Safety Audit before finalising the proposal for construction. In parallel the Council is running a procurement to appoint a contractor and work will commence as soon as the procurement concludes and the contractor is mobilised, which we anticipate being in the coming weeks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274614 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 12:09:28 +0000 Klaxon 274614@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very nice looking setup </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441#post-274611 Wed, 07 Feb 2018 12:05:14 +0000 McD 274611@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kSJq_oJKlcejv9TLlKae3Kp1qF3FFtB4" rel="nofollow">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kSJq_oJKlcejv9TLlKae3Kp1qF3FFtB4</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274559 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:34:42 +0000 Klaxon 274559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>we had closed the final account with the Phase 4 contractor</em></p> <p>The drain covers through the McDonald Road junction are already collapsing through consolidation of the ground beneath.</p> <p>What did they use to form the lid bases, foam bricks? Crummock must have a culture of "good enough" to see them through snagging liability then on to the next job </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274558 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:32:38 +0000 I were right about that saddle 274558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver</p> <p>What's the odds the outsourcing contract for the wardens doesn't have them on per-ticket commission?</p> <p>@unhurt</p> <p>I fear Leith locals might find ancillary uses for that infrastructure... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274555 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:03:06 +0000 unhurt 274555@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="http://www.secure-lane.com/publishImages/Traffic-Spikes~~element311.png"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274553 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:00:34 +0000 crowriver 274553@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nah, they'll just switch to the actual segregated shared use footway/cycleway I imagine. Less chance of scraping the paintwork, innit guv?</p> <p>Unless (hollow laughter) parking enforcement is somehow stepped up on Leith Walk to keep the cycleways and footways clear... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274543 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:32:58 +0000 I were right about that saddle 274543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So what is it exactly that lorries will soon be driving over the top of? Kerb and wands? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441#post-274538 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:34:01 +0000 McD 274538@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spokes has received the following answers to the points that we raised, the design being for kerbed separation with reboundable bollards:</p> <p>Regarding the Orca replacement we are well on with the design and are awaiting the outcome of the Road Safety Audit. Unfortunately we had closed the final account with the Phase 4 contractor so are currently running a quick procurement to appoint a contractor to carry out the work, we will be on site as soon as that procurement concludes and the RSA is finalised. Regarding the points you raised, these were discussed with the design team and outcome is set out below. I am sure Alan will forward you the final drawing for information.</p> <p>The kerb sides are painted white or black and white striped for visibility.<br /> Response: No as the city wants to maintain consistency for road users and there are maintenance issues with such an approach.</p> <p>The bollards should be clearly marked - the Rediweld site shows red and white stickers as an example.<br /> Response: The bollards will be clearly marked</p> <p>The reboundable bollard on the first (from the approach direction) kerbline should be placed at the front edge of the splitter rather than in the middle as appears to be the case for all the bollards in the drawings. Some online examples of this situation include a "cyclists left" arrow and are made highly visible with stickers etc (as suggested above).<br /> Response: Bollard moved but no need for symbol as the lane is already delineated.</p> <p>The length and spacing should be such that cyclists, including those on cargo and all-ability bikes, can easily enter and leave the cycleway at any point, but drivers are deterred from entering the cycleway/parking. This is especially relevant for cyclists joining the cycleway when coming from Pilrig St and heading south. The proposed 3m spacing seems suitable.<br /> Response: Agreed and included in the revised drawing</p> <p>Space needs to be suitable to accommodate sweeping/cleaning of the cycleway.<br /> Response: This is accommodated in the revised drawing</p> <p>Consistent length and spacing seems appropriate, to minimise confusion.<br /> Response: Noted</p> <p>On-road markings should be considered to highlight the splitters and to deter parking.<br /> Response: This is not required and there are space constraints</p> <p>Supplementary questions:</p> <p>Which budget is funding these works?<br /> Response: Leith Programme Phase 4 Budget</p> <p>Would these works need modification to accommodate the tram extension?<br /> Response: Not for permanent works but may need to be temporarily set aside during construction – they will be reinstated</p> <p>Are these a custom-built solution and how will they be fixed to the road?<br /> Response: These are fixed in the same way as any kerb</p> <p>How and when will a decision be made on what will be installed?<br /> Response: Decision has been taken to proceed as set out above. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274421 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 14:02:50 +0000 Harts Cyclery 274421@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good question. We were promised wands! Sending chasing email now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441&page=6#post-274419 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:52:54 +0000 dougal 274419@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So uh... what was happening with this again? Didn't the council say they were going to do something? There's a distinct lack of something being done. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18441#post-271680 Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:34:38 +0000 McD 271680@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>HankChief might have been better off in one of these:<br /> <a href="https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/podride-a-practical-and-fun-bicycle-car-bike-bicycle--2" rel="nofollow">https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/podride-a-practical-and-fun-bicycle-car-bike-bicycle--2</a><br /> Thanks for the support people. No comments though? </p>