http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: morrison street - Recent Posts en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:08:02 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129484 Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:59:45 +0000 Arellcat 129484@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Atria One, with cycle parking marked:</p> <p><a href="http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=18&amp;lat=55.94632&amp;lon=-3.2083&amp;layers=B000" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=18&amp;lat=55.94632&amp;lon=-3.2083&amp;layers=B000</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129431 Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:18:42 +0000 cc 129431@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I found the racks behind "Atria One" (surely ungrammatical...) and they're good - well spaced, way under cover, and there are free racks. Thanks again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129241 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:34:42 +0000 cc 129241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chrisfl: thanks, they'll be my first port of call in that case!</p> <p>@gembo : absolutely :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129187 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:26:56 +0000 chrisfl 129187@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are 10 racks around the back of the Atria building and they are covered by the building overhang which is a nice bonus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129185 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:01:11 +0000 gembo 129185@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks CC, tell me did you have your right arm raised when typing? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129182 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:39:23 +0000 cc 129182@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cheers! </p> <p>(also, GEMBO GEMBO GEMBO!!!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129181 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:33:53 +0000 gembo 129181@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Down the side of the newer venue was where the staff were suggesting racks would go. Bet of luck </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129180 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:29:09 +0000 cc 129180@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks both. The four wee racks I spotted were in front of the Morrison St entrance to the conference centre. So there are more racks uphill near the 'Atria' buildings - I hadn't looked that way so thanks for that!<br /> I didn't see anything down the side or round the back, particularly, so I missed those ten racks somehow. Sounds like I should be OK then - thanks again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129161 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:46:26 +0000 davey2wheels 129161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cc, there's only those rack-ettes as you call them. It's actually five in front between the Centre and Atria Two entrances, another two close to the Atria One main entrance and ten close to the Atria One rear entrance in Conference Square. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129150 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:21:31 +0000 gembo 129150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was at a conference in the new venue when it first opened. No racks. Plenty of bikes chained to fence (building works not quite complete so area fenced off). Staff did say racks would be going in. Four isn't a lot. Where are they in relation to the two venues? Nothing down the side of either building? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11402#post-129143 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 06:19:31 +0000 cc 129143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm going to a conference! Where's a good place near the conference centre to lock up my bike? Any recommendations? </p> <p>I went there yesterday and found four wee rack-ettes out the front of the building; a couple of lamposts across the road; some cyclist-crusher barrier fencing just down the hill; and a bit further away there's <a href="http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=18&amp;lat=55.94603&amp;lon=-3.20902&amp;layers=B000">Festival Square</a> but there doesn't seem to be anywhere more secure or reassuring. </p> <p>The <a href="http://www.eicc.co.uk/">EICC</a> and <a href="http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe">conference</a> sites are no help sadly ("For further advice on alternative modes of transport <a href="http://www.sestran.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.sestran.gov.uk</a>"). </p> <p>Any more ideas please? Or is that the lot? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112500 Fri, 31 May 2013 12:41:50 +0000 Two Tired 112500@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the real reason people cycle a long way is just so they can visit more cafes and eat more cake</em></p> <p>So true. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112463 Fri, 31 May 2013 10:06:10 +0000 lionfish 112463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"I'm afraid I am certainly no athlete though"</em> - me neither! I pootle about town fairly slowly on my bike, and the weekend bike rides minimoth and I do are all fairly sedate, and involve lots of rest-stops and cafe visits! (the real reason people cycle a long way is just so they can visit more cafes and eat more cake).</p> <p>@WC: "Feeder lanes" are quite tricky though - I guess if there's space they could be wide enough. I also vote for a 10 second bikes-only part to the sequence. In general, how would the Netherlands solve the problem? (what would be your "dream infrastructure" to fix it? :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112452 Fri, 31 May 2013 09:45:32 +0000 algo 112452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That is indeed a sensible and well-thought out suggestion. When I think back I've struggled to get it right around that junction in the van given the confusing and often invisible lane markings. </p> <p>What I believe is that road behaviour when riding or driving should be unambiguous - but there are a few places such as this junction which make that tough cycling or driving. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112450 Fri, 31 May 2013 09:36:30 +0000 cb 112450@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>+1 for WC's proposal (even though I would always use the right hand lane if I was in the car). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112373 Thu, 30 May 2013 16:15:42 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 112373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Personally I think what they need to do is reduce the number of right turning lanes to one, and two feeder cycle lanes could be fitted in (one on the left, one between the straight on and the right turn lanes), with ASLs at the head.</p> <p>Et voila.</p> <p>No confusion for drivers over which right turn lane to be in (and it really DOES cause confusion), and safe(r) access for cyclists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112371 Thu, 30 May 2013 16:15:21 +0000 algo 112371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hello,</p> <p>thanks for the welcome. I'm afraid I had to work for this years POP which was a great shame - especially as it would have been the first time out with my daughter in her child seat. I'm sorry to say I'm away for the breakfast ride too but I keep looking and hope to make it to an event soon. I'm afraid I am certainly no athlete though.</p> <p>I found the forum by searching on google for edinburgh cycling - I can't believe I didn't do it before! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112369 Thu, 30 May 2013 16:04:25 +0000 lionfish 112369@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>ot: This might be quite a useful thread to point our councillors to. It's a single case example of the wider issue that (even confident) cyclists struggle on many of our roads and junctions. Some of the alternative routes are ok in this case, but often are very long/cobbly/make-you-get-off. How are new cyclists or children supposed to negotiate this?</p> <p>Oh, by the way: Welcome algo!<br /> Mind me asking how you found the forum?<br /> And did you make it to POP? (and have you heard about the breakfastbikeride.org.uk :D<br /> Hope you stick around - there's a <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10090">PY meetup</a> tomorrow, and a <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6609">glossary</a> to find out what CCE's on about :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112361 Thu, 30 May 2013 15:05:50 +0000 algo 112361@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hello,</p> <p>thanks for your post (just came up as I was supposed to be doing something else) - you clearly have a technique for that bit of road. </p> <p>I didn't want to post up with a specific bad instance, but what happened to me two days ago was that while waiting in the ASL on Morrison street heading towards Lothian road, at the junction from Semple Street. EXACTLY what you say happened - the rightmost lane was clear, the left of the two right turn lanes was blocked so I waited. The car behind beeped and tried to squeeze past to get into the rightmost right turn lane, and there were cars passing on my left to go to the straight ahead lane. I had nowhere to go but to join the straight on lane and then try and filter into the right lane somewhere - there was no space to move anywhere, and I didn't want to have a standoff with this car - that's why I feel a bit cowardly about it probably. </p> <p>In any case - I have lots of alternative route suggestions now (thanks), but it's interesting to hear the different approaches. I personally feel it's ok to filter if you feel are in a vulnerable position and there is an ASL ahead (Which there isn't in this case at the junction with Lothian Road) - otherwise I try to act like a car and stay in lane. </p> <p>Thanks again </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112360 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:59:19 +0000 wingpig 112360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The only time I'd ever bother turning right out of there is if it was empty of cars (unlikely between 17:00 and 18:00 on weekdays) or if I was in the usually relatively clearer straight-on-to-Bread Street lane and came level with the head of the right-turning queue just as the right-turn light went green and the vehicle at the head of the right-turning queue was not a taxi which might also be aiming for the bus lane. Otherwise I either Steveo south up Leamington Terrace or Morningsider north via Bread/Lauriston St, depending on my eventual destination. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112357 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:51:14 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 112357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting reading this thread. I ride this junction (Semple Street - Morrison Street - Lothian Road)using the left most right hand turn, every day, and I pretty much do the opposite of what people suggest...</p> <p>I filter. Generally easier to ride along in the right most right turn lane, which is often only half full or less, then either slot into a gap two or three cars from the front (happens probably nine days out of ten) or put myself at the head of the queue. I'm probably fortunate, never had any issues from drivers when doing this (more often are people who are in the right most right turn lane, then when onto Lothian Road want to move across to the left so they floor it).</p> <p>Every now and then it's just too chocka to be able to filter at all, in which case I get into the first gap available and just go with the traffic flow.</p> <p>One thing I don't like doing is filter using the straight ahead lane, main reason being that as it goes green first, if you have a clear run drivers behind will assume (justifiably) you're going straight on, whereas I want to dodge into a gap on the right, which necessarily involves slowing down, and I don't want a car into my back wheel as I do so unexpectedly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112356 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:50:50 +0000 algo 112356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks,</p> <p>I'll try and be a bit braver about it then and hold the lane like a car. Thanks again for the maps and alternative routes too - I'll be checking them out. Very helpful advice all round - thanks for the welcome.... stupid I didn't find this forum before - some really useful stuff on here. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112354 Thu, 30 May 2013 14:46:32 +0000 bdellar 112354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I ride that bit, I take primary in the lane, and if there are cars in front of me, I wait behind them. Basically, the same as I would if I was in a car. I don't overtake or try and filter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112350 Thu, 30 May 2013 13:59:29 +0000 algo 112350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hello everyone,</p> <p>thanks very much for the great replies and suggestions. I think I didn't make myself clear on some things I'm afraid. The junction I'm talking about is the one before the one pictured - Semple street and Morrison street.</p> <p>I would always try to follow the traffic in lane, but my problem is that the box junction is often blocked and when I leave the ASL I have nowhere to go, but often the car behind wants to progress into the box junction. </p> <p>It seems I should try and check out the alternative routes that have been suggested and I will do that, or if I am going that way keep trying to stay in the lane and not filter, which is what I want to do, but I'm afraid I get a bit intimidated holding the traffic up before the box junction as I don't want to enter it and find myself in the way of the traffic coming from Semple street. I should say that I don't ever want to filter there, but because of cowardess and incompetence on my part have done so to get out of the way (e.g. if the right hand of the two lanes is open but the left one isn't, and the car behind wants to take that one).</p> <p>Thanks very much for all the suggestions - sorry if I came across as an aggressive cyclist - that is the last thing I want. In general I find in Edinburgh the understanding given to me my car drivers (and particularly lothian buses) is excellent and patient, but there are a few junctions (such as this) where I think it is quite tough to get it right.</p> <p>Thanks again </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112349 Thu, 30 May 2013 13:56:15 +0000 cb 112349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The wee un-named cut through between Fountainbridge and West Tollcross that Arellcat's route uses is pretty handy. I've used that a few times. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112346 Thu, 30 May 2013 13:30:36 +0000 bruce_mcadam 112346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Morrison Street is terrible.</p> <p>If you are going from Haymarket towards Fountainbridge/canal/Lothian Road/Tolcross/Meadows area, then you can take an traffic free 'short'cut</p> <p> - Cross Dalry Road (jump on your bike when pedestrians are crossing in front of the taxi rank)<br /> - Turn left and ride up Dalry Place past the colony houses<br /> - Cut along the path to Morrison Crescent<br /> - Round Morrison Crescent, then onto path<br /> - Use the crossing to cross Western Approach Road<br /> - Up the zig-zag path (beside steps) to McEwan Square<br /> - Along the path/parking area by Brandfield Street to get to Fountainbridge</p> <p>Then either ride along Fountainbridge towards Lothian Road, or use the crossing to go up Gilmore Park to the canal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112344 Thu, 30 May 2013 13:17:19 +0000 remberbuck 112344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hi Algo,</p> <p>I follow your route most evenings, and generally find that provided I keep assertive then there is no problem. Like you I come up past the Conference Centre, and since the construction works have gione find no problem keeping to the inside, and then positioning myself at the lights to go between the straight ahead lane, and the two right turn lanes. Generally the Semple Street lights are at red, and I find it rare for drivers to crowd the ASL, and the line is clear </p> <p>If you follow this line then a smart start can get you all the way through to Lothian Road on current traffic light timings - you just go on and sweep right into the bus lane, with the great bonus that you can get all the way through the next two lights to the Meadows without any reds unless you get unlucky with the pedestrian crossings.</p> <p>Otherwise, I would still be happy to follow the same line, and stop at Lothian Road - there is enough room between the car stop line and the pedestrian crossing. Traffic can speed away when the green light goes, so I generally mount up and idle into the middle when the pedestrian crossing light across Lothian Road goes to red, pedalling once the lights go to green. The bus lane can be "busy" so I find the head start gives me maneouvre time. </p> <p>Maybe I've been lucky but I've not yet had doom moments at this part, although the occasional car in the straight ahead lane that cuts across to turn right provides variety ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112343 Thu, 30 May 2013 13:13:14 +0000 Morningsider 112343@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I cycled Fountainbridge-Semple St-Bread Street as part of my commute for years. The best thing to do is to take primary position early (round about Evans Cycles) and then stay in lane, no filtering - it might be slower but is definitely safer. If you find the right turn from Morrison St to Lothian Road too hairy, then you could go straight on to Bread Street then hang a right by the Art College and then head towards the Meadows down Lauriston Gardens.</p> <p>I like Stevo's suggestion though - avoid the whole lot if you can. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112338 Thu, 30 May 2013 12:56:45 +0000 SRD 112338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think I'd follow Steveo's suggestion. </p> <p>I find Semple Street to Morrison Street to Bread street okay on Saturday mornings, but stressful otherwise. I don't think I'd want to try and make a right there. Straight ahead is basically okay though once you get off Semple Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10309#post-112336 Thu, 30 May 2013 12:50:41 +0000 steveo 112336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I also completely avoid Morrison Street. In your position I'd swing left along Gardners Cresent at the end use the left path round the canal to get to Lower Gilmore Street. Left again takes you to the bad junction at the Kings but its not as bad as a snarled up Morrison St. Turn right at the kings and first left along Vallyefield street, at the end follow the shared use path to the meadows. Done.</p> <p>Thusly: <a href="https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Morrison+Street,+Edinburgh,+United+Kingdom&amp;daddr=55.943068,-3.208537+to:Melville+Drive,+Edinburgh,+United+Kingdom&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=55.943024,-3.201699&amp;sspn=0.017953,0.038581&amp;geocode=FYWrVQMdr_7O_ylljpYMoseHSDHD-5q5QRGvFw%3BFZyfVQMdpwrP_ym1ZraioceHSDEJnWUOx9a3Yg%3BFUaTVQMd4kvP_ym3mBk6nceHSDEIRuZTSI_HCQ&amp;oq=Mel&amp;dirflg=b&amp;mra=dpe&amp;mrsp=1&amp;sz=15&amp;via=1&amp;t=m&amp;z=15&amp;lci=bike">Google Maps</a> </p>