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<title>chdot on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-101100</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Snowy on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-100484</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Cloisters bar has a mantlepiece where people can swap secondhand books.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It was noticable that over the course of a couple of years it slowly became 75% unwanted Dan Brown novels.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I get the feeling Lance may start making a strong showing on the mantlepiece. Starting with my own copy of 'It's not about the bike'.
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<title>Straws on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-100480</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Straws</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Send them to the Cycle Hub / Skedaddle in Newcastle Upon Tyne - They are turning them into art! &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.skedaddletwaddle.com/lance-artstrong/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.skedaddletwaddle.com/lance-artstrong/&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Zenfrozt on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99491</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Zenfrozt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I would agree with Jamie Byng on this one.&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;The idea that just because someone calls something a memoir it's definitely the truth is so naive. &#60;strong&#62;Every narrator is unreliable.&#60;/strong&#62; Armstrong is a total piece of work and I'm not trying to defend him, but this wasn't the first time this happened and it won't be the last.&#34;&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Publishers do their best to ensure veracity but there is only so far they can go. Memoirs and autobiography's come with a certain implicit level of trust which i'll admit Lance broke but if you enjoyed the book then it's purpose was served.&#60;br /&#62;
Perhaps if further copies are sold they should carry a caveat or warning of the untruths but refunds is a dumb idea. It leads to a slippery slope of refunds because someone doesn't enjoy the book.
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<title>Bigjack on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99489</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've got two of his books - &#34;It's Not About The Bike&#34; and &#34;Every second counts&#34; in as-new condition-anyone want to buy them at a knock-down price?
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<title>Baldcyclist on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99366</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Baldcyclist</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I wondered about this, and came to the conclusion that if you were 'entertained' by the book when you first read it, then it has served it's primary purpose.&#60;br /&#62;
If you now don't like the book as an 'ornament' on your bookcase (lets face it you were never going to read it again anyway), then simply put it with all the other unwanted ornaments in the garage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No need for a refund.
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<title>chdot on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99358</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://road.cc/content/news/75785-wanted-your-lance-armstrong-books-so-they-can-be-turned-art-tyneside&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://road.cc/content/news/75785-wanted-your-lance-armstrong-books-so-they-can-be-turned-art-tyneside&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Claggy Cog on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99043</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Claggy Cog</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;No, if you bought the book then no refund, caveat emptor.  He lied, it was a work of fiction, although you might be entitled to a refund due to thinking you were buying an autobiography and were mislead.  He did, however, dupe the publishers too.
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<title>crowriver on "Should buyers of Lance Armstrong&#039;s books get a refund?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9416#post-99040</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 14:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>crowriver</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;The potential ramifications are depressing, believes Jamie Byng, managing director of Canongate books - which famously published the &#34;unauthorised autobiography&#34; of Julian Assange after a dispute with the Wikileaks founder. He agrees that publishers should try to ensure the integrity of non-fiction books, but insists that an autobiography will never be an impartial account of events.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Similarly, he argues, readers have an obligation to use their own critical faculties. Claims about Armstrong's doping had circulated for years, Byng says. The public, he insists, were free to make up their own minds. &#34;It's laughable that someone is seriously thinking about doing this,&#34; he adds. &#34;The idea that just because someone calls something a memoir it's definitely the truth is so naive. Every narrator is unreliable. Armstrong is a total piece of work and I'm not trying to defend him, but this wasn't the first time this happened and it won't be the last.&#34;&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21250032&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21250032&#60;/a&#62;
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