http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: QBC - Recent Posts en Tue, 28 Apr 2026 20:16:30 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195884 Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:18:20 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 195884@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cycled round there today. Nary a car about me, yet they retain two lanes, and the cycle lane simply removed. Bah. Need to take a picture - it's exactly this sort of set up I saw in Copenhagen, when pavement works meant diverting peds into the cycle lane. Oh, except they then fenced off (yes, fenced) a cycle lane, taking away a motorised traffic lane. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195771 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:40:35 +0000 jdanielp 195771@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gdm the evidence of such accidents is still commonly noticeable, although I am yet to actually witness one. Vehicles routinely cut fully across where a cycle lane should be (it runs up to the ASZ before the corner and then continues just around the corner, but conveniently vanishes at the crucual moment) as they turn left onto Lothian Street due to the speed at which the drivers choose to approach it... Be glad that you moved away - Boteco do Brasil is a noisy replacement to Negotiants. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195762 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:58:44 +0000 gdm 195762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well, thank goodness they got rid of that monstrosity. We wouldn't have had an uninterrupted view of Appleton Tower if it had still been there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195761 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:55:31 +0000 chdot 195761@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Previously</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/bCawBV" rel="nofollow">https://flic.kr/p/bCawBV</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195757 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:49:43 +0000 gdm 195757@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I used to live on Lothian Street and there were regular accidents at that section, with people hitting the wall or railing that used to run between the lanes. I always wondered how people could build up so much speed to lose control given they'd be coming from a tight turn from Forrest Road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195756 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:49:07 +0000 chdot 195756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>CEC has extended the ideas into the 21stC in its own unique way</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/wYewkr"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/485/20327065319_fece39701f.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195754 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:46:03 +0000 chdot 195754@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I've never understood why it's important to shave two seconds off"</p> <p>You obviously don't have the 1960s Colin Buchananesque mentality. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195750 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:38:30 +0000 AKen 195750@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What is the point of two lanes of traffic here? I've never understood why it's important to shave two seconds off the journey from Bristo Place to Marshall Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195703 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:55:57 +0000 emuir 195703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was there last Sunday and the first time crossing the road we did so by scrambling over the security fencing, which had been knocked down and trampled over. When going south I found the diversion signage very poor and if I didn't know about the underpass I would likely have been at a loss. </p> <p>It would have been good if the council had maintained the cycle lane and put in a temporary pavement by removing a lane of motor traffic. Further space could be found by removing the central barrier kerbing space.</p> <p>Pictures <a href="https://conflictbydesign.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/2015-08-09_barriers_and_signs.jpg?w=917">1</a> <a href="https://conflictbydesign.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/2015-08-09_barriers_south_from_road.jpg?w=917">2</a> <a href="https://conflictbydesign.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/2015-08-09_lothain_st.jpg?w=917">3</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195477 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:02:05 +0000 chdot 195477@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We'll now that the area is all developed not much chance of 'developer contributions'. </p> <p>'Best' chance might be for Museum to get mega-money to sort Chambers Street <em>and</em> Potterow(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195476 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:56:38 +0000 cc 195476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes. When the Informatics Forum got its planning permission there was mention of some long term plan to demolish the 'banked urban motorway' thingy and the student centre building and replace them with a much smaller road in something closer to its original alignment and a more naturally joined up George Square/Bristo Square/Old College stretch of more or less pedestrian niceness. No idea though whether that's still on the cards for some day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195475 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:53:53 +0000 chdot 195475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/488/20295627440_e89f8eb588.jpg"></p> <p><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/284/19861071034_7696b5d671.jpg"></p> <p>(No "traffic" because Apple Maps removes it - but it it's pretty light most of the time really.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195472 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:39:48 +0000 chdot 195472@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Of course it's time Edinburgh's unique bit of 'urban motorway' (banked for speed) was removed - no need for all that duelled roadspace (or the underpass). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195470 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:34:23 +0000 cc 195470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh I see, that's why. Thanks. Left hand, right hand, etc! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195457 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:14:26 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 195457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmmm, had seen something on Twitter last night about the underpass being closed without warning (how very Edinburgh Council I thought) and pedestrians being forced to take the road route.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15274#post-195454 Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:08:41 +0000 cc 195454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The team rebuilding Bristo Square closed a section of footpath on Lothian Street a week or two ago, telling pedestrians to cross the road and go round by the underpass. Presumably everyone ignored that silliness and walked on the road, so now the cycle lane has been fenced off as a makeshift pavement. Also, the fencing runs out a few metres before the pedestrian crossing traffic lights, so crowds of people are walking on the cycle path for those few metres. (The University has made its central campus area a hive of corporate festival activity so there are a lot of people about.)</p> <p>Here's a <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=55.94586&amp;mlon=-3.18916#map=18/55.94586/-3.18917">map</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445&page=2#post-164059 Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:31:20 +0000 Roibeard 164059@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the 'blue meanies' couldnt or wouldnt be able to do anything about [double parking]</em></p> <p>"Can't" in this case, as double parking is a police matter. As I understand it, however, they can only act if the vehicle is causing an obstruction, and anyway they have more important things to do than police such minor traffic violations...</p> <p>I think there were suggestions that such double parking would be decriminalised to be enforced by parking attendants like the adjacent bay or yellow lines, but that hasn't been made law - I can see there may be difficulties framing such an extension!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445&page=2#post-164056 Tue, 02 Sep 2014 16:14:48 +0000 mgj 164056@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>With the lack of powers to control double parking, the drivers would just double park outside an empty bay, and the 'blue meanies' couldnt or wouldnt be able to do anything about it. That is already happening on Leith Walk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445&page=2#post-164051 Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:32:11 +0000 neddie 164051@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Apparently Lesley Hinds overrode the objections to the TRO, so the shop will get 'its' parking, albeit with a reduced size of parking bay. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445&page=2#post-156253 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:54:36 +0000 Kim 156253@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@calmac good point </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445&page=2#post-156168 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 11:54:09 +0000 calmac 156168@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do they really still not understand that any cycle route is only as good as its worst point? If there's a stretch on any route that's not safe, I'm not cycling it, and it doesn't matter how good any other bit of it is. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-156070 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:04:14 +0000 chdot 156070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>12. Car parking </p> <p>Cars need to be parked at the end of every trip, and parking is critical in ensuring that drivers can access the goods and services they need. It is therefore important in sustaining the economic health of the city. Conversely, parking control is essential to keep Edinburgh moving safely and efficiently and to manage the overall amount of traffic in the city.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/1401-14-Item_No_7.2___Local_Transport_Strategy_2014_2019_FINAL.pdf#page45">CEC LTS</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155992 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:58:30 +0000 DdF 155992@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot <em>That's Good</em>.</p> <p>Agreed! but obviously we don't yet know what the outcome will be, and the shopkeepers will undoubtedly still be making their case. So anyone feeling strongly about it could usefully email LH and/or their own local councillors [local cllrs especially important if you live in the area]. Probably more effective than tweeting as one can give the rationale in an email. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155989 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:52:16 +0000 chdot 155989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Someone who sat in at the council cttee on Tuesday told me that councillors had decided to postpone any decision on the Mayfield Road location because of the objections, so presumably this is now awaiting LH's further investigations as above.</p> <p>"</p> <p>That's good.</p> <p>I hope she asks why the officials thought this was a good idea/recommendation (councillors don't have to rubber stamp such things.)</p> <p>ALSO hope she makes It clear that it shouldn't happen again... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155986 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:49:28 +0000 steveo 155986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Its more than a little ridiculous that this comes out of the tiny cycling budget when they're busy blowing the rest of it on pointless chicanes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155984 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:48:38 +0000 SRD 155984@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>does this spot where "there is a pressing need for fragile or bulky goods to be picked up or dropped off outside the business which has requested the relaxation" possibly correlate to Christmas tree sales, and other scurrilous stories we've been told... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155982 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:46:29 +0000 kaputnik 155982@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder which business here is dealing in goods so "fragile" and/or "bulky" that they can't be carried round a corner / down the road a bit. Perhaps they sell the proverbial "can't get that home on a bike" washing machines?</p> <p>Clearly the council is not willing to start any fight to change the behavious patterns of businesses from a right to park their vehicles however and whenever and wherever they choose to one where they get to park them a slightly longer distance away in a more regulated manner. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155981 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:45:38 +0000 DdF 155981@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This came up at the end of the recent Cycle Forum; we discussed with Lesley Hinds and pointed out it was ridiculous to install a loading bay which coincides with part of the cycle lane. I think that the abovequoted report must already have been written by then. LH took the point and said she would be discussing it with officers and would have a look at the site, though obviously she is under big pressure from the shopkeepers too. Spokes has also written to her repeating our objection, and others could do the same.</p> <p>Someone who sat in at the council cttee on Tuesday told me that councillors had decided to postpone any decision on the Mayfield Road location because of the objections, so presumably this is now awaiting LH's further investigations as above. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155977 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:35:55 +0000 crowriver 155977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>3.22 From observations on site, it is evident that the existing parking bays are underutilised during the off-peak period. As such, it is expected that all other businesses on Mayfield Road between Mentone Terrace and Savile Terrace will continue to load/unload from these bays. Although 15 metres of additional loading space will be introduced on a single yellow line, it is expected that this will only be used occasionally, when there is a pressing need for fragile or bulky goods to be picked up or dropped off outside the business which has requested the relaxation. Therefore, no significant negative impacts are expected to arise from the proposed change on Mayfield Road. </em></p> <p>Oh that's alright then. As if!</p> <p><em>Measures of success<br /> 4.1 The changes to waiting and loading restrictions which are outlined in the report are proposed due to concerns raised by local businesses. These changes will therefore be successful if they satisfy the needs of local traders whilst not having a negative impact on route users. This can be measured by monitoring feedback received from businesses and users e.g. pedestrians and cyclists, after implementation.<br /> </em></p> <p>Local businesses 1 - Cyclists 0</p> <p>Clearly the 'needs' of local businesses have greater priority than the 'aspirations' of cyclists, whether carrying their children or not. Who cares if some are killed or maimed as a result of these changes?</p> <p>I hope cyclists and pedestrians will be ready to give the Council some "feedback" after they've created additional hazards at this junction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11445#post-155968 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:17:23 +0000 kaputnik 155968@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The pathetic thing is that this is in response to the levels of illegal parking on the QBC route, which we all know that many here and in other organisations gave considerable time and effort to highlighting with the council. And the council's response is to formalise the situation by painting parking bays in. Problem solved, we <u>still</u> have a Qrap Bike Corridor and we <u>still</u> have it covered in cars.</p> <p>If their response had been a couple of weeks of intensive warden and tow-truck activity... </p>