http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: QBiC - Recent Posts en Tue, 19 May 2026 20:28:21 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-276179 Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:20:21 +0000 neddie 276179@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>SPOKES' response to the Causey consultation:</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1802-CAUSEY-TRO_RSO-Final-Spokes-comments.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1802-CAUSEY-TRO_RSO-Final-Spokes-comments.pdf</a></p> <p>Note that the <strong>deadline is 2 March</strong>, so you still have a bit of time to submit comments, if you so wish. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-274797 Fri, 09 Feb 2018 14:14:36 +0000 neddie 274797@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Causey TRO and RSO are now up for consultation.</p> <p>Plans are on the CEC website.</p> <p> TRO: <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2455/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2455/</a><br /> RSO: <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2457/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2457/</a></p> <p><strong>Deadline 2 March.</strong> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-270323 Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:34:23 +0000 neddie 270323@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Hello</p> <p>I wanted to let you all know with plenty of notice that there will be a public exhibition of the Causey TRO proposals on <strong>Saturday 20th January 2.30 – 4.30 pm and on Tuesday 23rd January 5.30 – 7.30 pm</strong> both at Buccleuch and Greyfriars Church hall.</p> <p>The purpose of the exhibition is to make sure that West Crosscauseway residents, businesses and key organisations understand the detail of the TRO and how it will affect all users of the street and the immediate area. And, of course to seek to forestall any objections due to any misunderstanding of the proposals.</p> <p>Isobel</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-268621 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:06:09 +0000 jonty 268621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Papers here: <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/55558/item_73_-_traffic_regulation_orders_at_west_crosscauseway_chapel_street_quarry_close_and_buccleuch_street" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/55558/item_73_-_traffic_regulation_orders_at_west_crosscauseway_chapel_street_quarry_close_and_buccleuch_street</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-267980 Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:07:50 +0000 neddie 267980@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Causey Project are about to produce a new TRO for their latest proposals for West Crosscauseway (WCC) sometime in December. This will be presented to the T&amp;E Committee on 7 December and if approved sent to statutory consultees (which I think includes Spokes) in mid-December for comments, with public consultation in January/February. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-253887 Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:21:56 +0000 Klaxon 253887@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The small refuse collection vehicle is no longer available so access must be provided for the 9m vehicle".</p> <p>If you want you can heavy design vehicles and trade waste out of the public space entirely..</p> <p><img src="http://imgur.com/pfD12wLm.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-253883 Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:59:22 +0000 neddie 253883@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Another report from someone else who attended:</p> <p><em>The new proposals presented two options...</p> <p> Option 2 proposes two-way traffic in West Crosscauseway (WCC) with left-only entrance from and exit into Nicolson Street. Large lorries would be allowed to exit into Buccleuch Street (left only), but no physical barrier to stop other traffic. This would mean that vehicles that got in by mistake or otherwise would legally have to make 3-point turns to get out; there is no physical block to rat-running; and vehicles entering WCC would conflict with eastbound cyclists heading for the toucan to East Crosscauseway (ECC).</p> <p> In contrast, Option 1 proposes reversing the motor traffic flow along WCC, from west to east, entry left-turn only from Chapel Street and exit left-turn only into Nicolson Street. There would not be any conflict at the toucan to ECC.</p> <p> Both options would allow loading, but no parking. Residents' parking would be moved to the bays at the end of Buccleuch Place. The road surface in WCC would be flat, no kerbs, and contrasting surfaces distinguishing the areas where cars can go from the areas that cars can't use.</p> <p> Both options retain the cycle lanes in Chapel Street, 1.5m wide either side of a 5.5m carriageway (i.e. 8.5 m between pavements). The various lanes would be marked by different surface treatment rather than white lines.</p> <p> Both options allow two-way cycling in WCC. Cyclists would be allowed to turn into and out of WCC in any direction. The cycle route would be along the south side of the triangle, so that cyclists do not whizz downhill through the open pedestrian space in front of the Free Church. Cycle racks would be provided in the triangle.</p> <p> They didn't mention exactly what types of surface would be used. There would be continuous footways on the east side of Chapel Street and the west side of Nicolson Street.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-253880 Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:45:56 +0000 neddie 253880@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Comments from someone who attended the drop-in session:</p> <p><em>1. The cycle lanes have be added back into Chapel St. These will at the same level as the road (which is all to be on a raised platform to slow down traffic) but picked out with a different surface treatment. They will be 1.5m wide and I was told that they would be clearly marked as cycle lanes.</p> <p>2. Two options for traffic on West Crosscauseway were shown - 1 way traffic designed to minimise rat running by only allowing access from the sane direction on Chapel St and Clerk St; and closure at the eastern end with 2 way traffic. In either case, council rubbish collection lorries, large removal vans etc would be able to enter and depart without having to do dangerous turns. There would be 2 way cycling under both options and a toucan link to East Crosscauseway.</p> <p>3. The exhibition itself did not include any information on surfacing but I was told that it would most probably be new granite sets.<br /> </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-253879 Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:38:13 +0000 kaputnik 253879@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The small refuse collection vehicle is no longer available so access must be provided for the 9m vehicle".</p> <p>Doesn't sound good, there should surely be a desire to reduce the size of urban refuse vehicles. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856&page=2#post-253876 Wed, 28 Jun 2017 10:30:23 +0000 neddie 253876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Causey proposals have now been revised, with the cycle lanes retained and no pinch point:</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1706-revised-proposals-Philip-photos.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1706-revised-proposals-Philip-photos.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-251652 Thu, 01 Jun 2017 13:06:30 +0000 neddie 251652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-251122 Thu, 25 May 2017 16:11:18 +0000 neddie 251122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The Causey project is moving forward into its next phase, and carrying out a consultation on emerging options for amending the design proposals to address concerns raised by local people, following on from the TRO process in September 2016.</p> <p>We understand that you wish to be involved in further consultation on The Causey. Accordingly Causey Development Trust, in partnership with The City of Edinburgh Council, invites you to a Drop In event when you’ll have the opportunity to see and comment on the options and discuss them with the designers, Ironside Farrar.</p> <p>The Drop in event will be on <strong>1 June 2017 from 6pm – 9pm in Room G.07a of the Informatics Forum, Edinburgh University, 10 Crichton Street</strong>, just opposite the Appleton Tower.</p> <p>We hope that you’re able to take this opportunity to participate in this consultation. As you represent a key organisation, your views are very important to us.</p> <p>In order to help us gauge numbers attending, <strong>please RSVP by Mon 29 May</strong> to <a href="mailto:info@thecausey.org">info@thecausey.org</a>.</p> <p>Yours sincerely</p> <p>Isobel Leckie<br /> secretary<br /> Causey Development Trust<br /> <a href="http://www.thecausey.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thecausey.org</a><br /> </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233972 Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:59:50 +0000 UtrechtCyclist 233972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lunch time challenge, write a two line email to the council in favour of pedestrianising the Causey. </p> <p>Taken from the 'keep the causey open' website:</p> <p>If you would like to comment on traffic orders TRO/16/44 &amp; RSO/16/12, the deadline is TODAY, Friday 14th Oct. Email your comments / reasons -together with your address- quoting the order ref's as above now to: <a href="mailto:trafficorders@edinburgh.gov.uk">trafficorders@edinburgh.gov.uk</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233970 Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:33:58 +0000 UtrechtCyclist 233970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Deadline for comments is today!</p> <p>I wrote the following in ten minutes, which you can tell by reading it (it wouldn't win me a Nobel prize in literature unless that whole stream of consciousness thing comes back into fashion). But there's no problem with poorly written and badly structured comments as long as we all get our opinions in!</p> <p>I very much welcome the principles behind the changes to the Causey. I walk or cycle between Montague Street and George square several times a week, at present I rarely use the Causey since it's unpleasant and car dominated, but hope that the proposed changes will really lift the area. I saw the public information board from the Causey Development Trust displayed on West Cross Causeway and went along to one of their information evenings, I really like the ideas behind what they are trying to do.</p> <p>That said, when the detailed designs came out there were several aspects that I think are disappointing. The removal of the bus stop on Chapel Street seems unnecessary, it is already the case that when a bus stops there at rush hour traffic behind has no option but to sit and wait, so I don't see why narrowing the road should mean that the bus stops can't be maintained.</p> <p>I'm also disappointed to see the cycle lanes on Chapel Street removed. Chapel Street is very busy and I don't think that raised tables and road narrowing will slow traffic enough, the road is still wide enough for two buses to pass each other on a corner, which means that it's wide enough for general traffic to travel quite quickly, very stressful if cyclists are in the main stream of traffic. I would like to see vehicle speeds reduced by the removal of the centre line of the road (which forces drivers to pay attention) and possibly the introduction of a zebra crossing across Chapel Street at the Causey. Pavements definitely need widening, but hopefully the uphill cycle lane at least can be maintained.</p> <p>I know that a local resident is campaigning to keep the Causey open to through traffic. I saw their leaflet, and thought that their point about the Chapel Street cycle lane and about forbidding loading by large vehicles on West Cross Causeway were well made. Most of their points however were about residents parking and maintenance of West Cross Causeway as a through route, I very strongly disagree with this. By pedestrianising the Causey this project will turn a busy rat run into a really nice space, I think it would be a great shame if that central ambition were derailed by the concerns of car drivers on the street. As their leaflet points out, there are over eighty residences on the street, I suspect that very few of those residences belong to people who own a car... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233896 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:10:14 +0000 neddie 233896@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had the misfortune to be in a taxi the other day and the driver took a completely unnecessary rat-run though West Crosscauseway, charging through there at 30 odd mph.</p> <p>Needless to say I felt bad about it. Needless to say, there was no tip for the driver.</p> <p>It definitely needs closed to through-traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233849 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:54:09 +0000 Klaxon 233849@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd counter - in the TRO the proposed shared space accesses only a private car park of 10 spaces (Quarry Lane). This means the number of vehicles per hour will be very very low. Keeping it open right through means it can be used by any joe and his right foot to cut through to Buccleuch St.</p> <p>Whether or not deliveries take place from the lane or the main road isn't dependent on the lane being kept open as a through road, either. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233846 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:42:24 +0000 LivM 233846@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had a long chat with Gordon's wife Rebecca last night (we play in the same orchestra) and she was discussing in detail that the proposals to turn the whole street into a shared space (i.e. no delineation between pavement and road), combined with the lack of front gardens on their bit of the road, mean that they literally couldn't step out of their front door without fear of being hit by vehicle (or bike)(and they have two small children who can't yet be expected to be cautious enough not to just run outside). It just looks as though they don't have enough space for segregation so they're just trying an "Exhibition Road" strategy but without the benefits of space. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233767 Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:21:20 +0000 kaputnik 233767@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a group for your facebookers to check out here;</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Keep-the-Causey-Open-1823201374559730/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/Keep-the-Causey-Open-1823201374559730/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED</a> ("Keep the Causey Open").</p> <p>I have met Gordon Duffy (Studio DUB is his architecture practice) and had a chance to chat with him and look round some of his designs at an architecture talk thing. He's a creative guy and seems open to a bit of thinking out of the box. He's involved with SEDA (Scottish Ecological Design Association) and dare I say it he's the sort of person whose on "our" side. It's worth giving his plans a reading and trying to understand his logic and motives. </p> <p>P.S. he's local to the Causey area as in very local as in as in check out his address on the above message and his practice is also his family home so I think has a vested interest in making it a nice place to work and live. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233566 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:53:29 +0000 chdot 233566@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I have issues with the narrowing of Chapel Street, but pedestrianising the Causey will be excellent"</p> <p>Yes.</p> <p>I haven't studied the plans enough to understand why the C St lane 'has' to go to make this workable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233562 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:43:01 +0000 UtrechtCyclist 233562@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By 'tweaks to the current scheme' they appear to mean keeping the causey open as a rat run... Sorry, shared space between rat running cars and pedestrians.</p> <p>I have issues with the narrowing of Chapel Street, but pedestrianising the Causey will be excellent, would be great if lots of us could respond to the consultation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233548 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 08:21:43 +0000 chdot 233548@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sent this, but not in time for meeting mentioned!</p> <p>"</p> <p>Dear Southsiders and others cycling and walking through these parts.....</p> <p>The date for commenting on this 'Order' has been extended to the end of next week, Friday 14th Oct '16.</p> <p>Importantly also there is a meeting of the Southside Community Council at 7pm this coming Monday 10th October at the Kings Hall as above.</p> <p>I'd welcome any support there from the floor on Monday evening -especially if you live in the area- to deflect any ire that could be forthcoming from the Causey Development Trust (CDT)</p> <p>Interestingly our design struck a chord with the Southside Association such that they have written to the Council objecting to the current scheme and those at their meeting Tuesday last made their feelings known to the member of the CDT present who seemed quite oblivious to any negative comment.</p> <p>I think our tweaks to the current scheme make for an attractive, much safer design arrived at through direct engagement with residents and stakeholders in the Street.</p> <p>I attach a link to a 3D animation of our proposal c/w homespun English / Gaelic narration<br /> <a href="https://youtu.be/e0Tq8pznjaA" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/e0Tq8pznjaA</a> , the TRO plan and our comparative plan of the entry to our Street.</p> <p>regards,<br /> Gordon Duffy Dip ID, MA(RCA), RIBA, RIAS<br /> Studio DuB<br /> Chartered Architects, Interior and Urban Designers<br /> 17A/2 West Crosscauseway<br /> Edinburgh<br /> EH8 9JW<br /> tel. +441316681536 </p> <p><a href="http://www.studiodub.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.studiodub.co.uk/</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233328 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:26:29 +0000 neddie 233328@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ooops, just seen from the Traffic Orders people:</p> <p>The closing date for the TRO has been extended to next Friday (14th), to coincide with the RSO closing date </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-233318 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 13:09:24 +0000 neddie 233318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Objections and/or comments on the TRO to be in today (7th):<br /> <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2006/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2006/</a></p> <p>For the RSO, you have until the 14th:<br /> <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2004/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2004/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-232948 Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:09:20 +0000 crowriver 232948@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Perhaps they were not consulted sufficiently?"</p> <p>Aye, that'll be it. The all purpose get out of jail free card. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-232926 Tue, 04 Oct 2016 15:35:32 +0000 chdot 232926@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1609-South-Ed-consultns-Causey-Grange.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/1609-South-Ed-consultns-Causey-Grange.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-231808 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:04:15 +0000 gembo 231808@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some of the shopkeepers out that way park all day on double yellows. There are loading bays but they have several vans and it is better just to park outside the shop rather than a few metres down the road. Mostly this means they are in the bike lane despite it being quite far out into the road at this stage (to accommodate loading bays). Perhaps they were not consulted sufficiently? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-231805 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:14:40 +0000 Frenchy 231805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Are they actually getting rid of the cycle lanes? It doesn't look like the road is getting narrower, so it'd be strange that there was no longer room for them. If they actually manage to stop people parking there, though, then the loss of cycle lanes would be worth it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-231796 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 07:56:53 +0000 chdot 231796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe they are more concerned about point 3 - the parking... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-231795 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 07:29:08 +0000 LivM 231795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"A local campaign to keep the Causey open" <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Keep-the-Causey-Open-1823201374559730/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/Keep-the-Causey-Open-1823201374559730/</a></p> <p>Not sure what I think about this. Getting rid of cycle lanes on one street and getting a nicer quiet cross street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14856#post-231332 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 13:39:51 +0000 acsimpson 231332@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Am I remembering correctly that you can't official comment in support but that the council will publish figures showing the number of supporting comments? </p>