http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: rail EGIP - Recent Posts en Thu, 21 May 2026 17:05:17 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-256205 Fri, 28 Jul 2017 19:48:36 +0000 chdot 256205@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Glasgow Queen Street Redevelopment - Station Transformed</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://vimeo.com/227283085" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/227283085</a></p> <p>.</p> <p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yaj43epk">vimeo</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-245641 Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:31:35 +0000 chdot 245641@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Work, originally expected to begin in late 2016, had been rescheduled to the second quarter of 2017. But the required Government authorisations, knows as TAWS orders, are currently eight months delayed.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15187452.Major_station_redevelopment_facing_indefinite_delays__warns_rail_body/" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15187452.Major_station_redevelopment_facing_indefinite_delays__warns_rail_body/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-222524 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 21:08:54 +0000 fimm 222524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You can put a bike anywhere on the Livi North trains, and people do. There were probably at least half a dozen on the train I got back to Edinburgh this evening, and that's totally normal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-222522 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:22:42 +0000 wingpig 222522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm. OK. Just there's another person with a bike here who reached the platform after me but who went decisively to the west end.</p> <p>It was at the back/west, but the other person was waiting too far back so I got to the door first, though there were no bikes yet on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-222521 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:17:44 +0000 Klaxon 222521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The trains don't stay in a fixed direction so either end.</p> <p>The North Berwick trains have triangles above the cab windows marking the end closest to the bikes. Maybe the Livi trains are the same (I'm not sure) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-222520 Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:13:39 +0000 wingpig 222520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does anyone know which end of platform 1 at Livingston North I need to be to get a bike on? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-222360 Tue, 07 Jun 2016 23:13:02 +0000 chdot 222360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/video-glasgow-queen-street-tunnel-works-reach-halfway-point-1-4148555" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/video-glasgow-queen-street-tunnel-works-reach-halfway-point-1-4148555</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-217339 Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:50:46 +0000 Tulyar 217339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you bag up the bike or have a folding one in bag use Citylink (roughly 1h 20 min, but can be faster outside peak hours)- cheaper too, and every 15 min during day last coach 23.59 (for technical reasons) first coach c.04.00 (can also use AIR to EDI) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909&page=2#post-217307 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 21:35:15 +0000 drnoble 217307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was on the 1750 service from GLQLL via Bathgate, which was less than 50% full. No queues at station either, just walked straight onto platform. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217306 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 21:00:22 +0000 kaputnik 217306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Other half visiting the folks in Motherwell today, couldn't get on the Cross Country service home at 5 due to overcrowding, had to wait another 2 hours...</p> <p>Even in the sunshine, central Motherwell isn't the greatest or most inspiring place to try and while away 2 hours until our train. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217304 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:50:52 +0000 gembo 217304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cross country route that goes via Motherwell to central has come from Birmingham or<br /> Further south.? The slow train via shotts you can get from wester hailes. There is also a livingston route that you get from Haymarket to central the Edinburgh park one is to Helensburgh or milngavie via Bathgate and is queen street low level. Quite a few options really. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217280 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:42:22 +0000 wee folding bike 217280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My boys get the the train to school and there has been some disruption in recent weeks but they are still running just not at the expected times. </p> <p>I had a meeting in the Crowne Plaza today but I cycled both ways so I don't know what the state of play is. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217279 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:04:58 +0000 steveo 217279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Schotts route is a good shout, doesn't seem to be one to get in much before 1030 though. The EDP train I normally get isn't too much different but I suspect it will be a trifle busier than normal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217277 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:01:54 +0000 fimm 217277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Airdrie - Bathgate trains that I commute on don't seem to be much busier than usual (though I'm on my outward journey before 8am) - if I had to go to Glasgow with a bike that is the route I would use. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217274 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:26:39 +0000 wingpig 217274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you take the Shotts route and get a CrossCountry train then you can reserve a space, albeit from Platform 9. There were none trying to get onto the 09:18 on Thursday 7th. It got me into Central a couple of minutes later than the nearest Queen Street service which left three minutes later. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-217273 Wed, 20 Apr 2016 15:24:00 +0000 steveo 217273@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any one been through in the last few weeks? How bad is it?</p> <p>Need to go through next week and trying to decide whether to risk taking the bike. I normally get the faster train from EDP to GLQ but I think thats on a go slow now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215563 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:14:31 +0000 wingpig 215563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"Cycling back with a tail wind on the A70 is not too preposterous"</em></blockquote></p> <p>Cycling there or back is on a list of things to do at some point, but not on a singlespeed (assuming I won't get time this weekend to fix the proper bike) starting sometime after 18:00 with work the next day.</p> <p>Stranraer trains appear to start at Ayr, or are at least not appearing on searches leaving from Glasgow as anything other than a change-at-Ayr option. Ideal-most leaving-time service goes via Motherwell with one change, whereas the ideal-time return is direct (but still via Motherwell), though there are several only-slightly-later reserve-returns which would also be used if I had to go on foot from Glasgow. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215562 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:57:46 +0000 gembo 215562@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Edinburgh Ayr trains all run Glasgow Central, you sit there waiting for maybe ten mins. THe seats fold up for sure on the one I was on (I only went to Curriehill on it) paRllel to the side of the train</p> <p>Normal Glasgow Central - Ayr trains have a funny arrangement with three seats facing three seats but as has been said room for bikes outwith the peak rush hour or during th Glasgow Fair when the trains can be busy.</p> <p>THere is a faster Cross country train from Edinburgh via Motherwell to Central that is a Birmingham Train, this allows time to connect to the onward train to AYr from Glasgow Central.</p> <p>There is the slow train from Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Shotts, plenty room for bikes but very slow</p> <p>THere is an Edinburgh to Glasgow Central via Livingston (does not stop at all the stops) that is a bit faster.</p> <p>THe Edinburgh to Helensburgh has the fold up seats parallel to the walls of the train. That goes through Queen St.</p> <p>Cycling back with a tail wind on the A70 is not too preposterous </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215556 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:27:59 +0000 Mandopicker101 215556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think the service now mostly runs to Glasgow Central. I caught the 7:12 at Musselburgh this morning which goes to Central having started in North Berwick.</p> <p>However ScotRail's timetable shows an evening service that from North Berwick to Ayr and a mid-afternoon service from Ayr to North Berwick. Three hours though...</p> <p>It's like something from the boardgame 'Ticket To Ride'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215543 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:38:22 +0000 kaputnik 215543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are (or were, before tunnel works?) a few direct Edinburgh - Ayr services a day. They use the Class 380 (a.k.a. North Berwick) rolling stock, with the multipurpose fold-down seats areas around the disabled toilets doubling as bike stowage.</p> <p>My experience of them is that they are fairly empty apart from the North Berwick - Edinburgh section, and I've never been beyond Motherwell on them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215537 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:16:21 +0000 wingpig 215537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Roibeard/Dougal Ta. My eventual destination is only half a mile inland on the nebulous Ayr/Prestwick border, so anywhere from the airport to the proper big red hotel/station would be within walking distance. There's a direct train back but all the outgoings involve Glasgow, so it should be easy enough to identify which go further south. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215535 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 12:08:29 +0000 Roibeard 215535@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@winpig - the Stranraer trains have a walk through cycle storage area with hangers for six or eight bikes, so should prove no problem. We've used that route repeatedly even with the Pino and family, and managed it fine.</p> <p>I don't know about the trains that terminate at Ayr itself.</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215531 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 11:04:27 +0000 dougal 215531@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wingpig I can't talk to recent - in fact I last did that journey almost exactly a year ago - but the Glasgow-Ayr train was deserted during the day and I had no problem taking a bike laden with camping equipment on board. IIRC this was travelling about mid-day on a Thursday. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-215530 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:59:06 +0000 wingpig 215530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I need to get to Ayr (any one of the four Ayr/Prestwick stations) and back on Thursday. I fortunately do not require a bike but it would be useful at the other end to reduce travel times; abandoning the bike at a rack in Glasgow would also be an option.</p> <p>Does anyone have any recent direct experience of getting a bike on a train to Ayr?</p> <p>The services I've picked say "no assigned seat available", in case that means that with no seat reservation I can't make a bike reservation, unless that's just because I've picked off-peak day return, which might be beneath the minimum ticket-rank for permitting reservations. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-214570 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:09:33 +0000 steveo 214570@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmmm, the Helensburgh train is 10 minutes quicker than normal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-214569 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:06:57 +0000 chdot 214569@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Route diversions will mean most journeys will take up to 25 minutes longer with queuing systems in place to enter and exit Queen Street Lower level station.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/countdown-to-queen-street-tunnel-upgrade-disruption-begins-1-4069273" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/countdown-to-queen-street-tunnel-upgrade-disruption-begins-1-4069273</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-214567 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:01:56 +0000 steveo 214567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any one know why the Milngavie train is taking 20 minutes longer? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-214546 Thu, 17 Mar 2016 00:04:12 +0000 chdot 214546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/live-discussion-impact-of-queen-street-tunnel-closure-1-4074120" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/live-discussion-impact-of-queen-street-tunnel-closure-1-4074120</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-208247 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:58:15 +0000 SRD 208247@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks all. I suspected something like that and did consider googling but I knew you guys would have a more interesting account than what I could piece together myself. Fascinating stuff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15909#post-208245 Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:54:20 +0000 Arellcat 208245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>@kappers can you explain "Unfortunately that terminus was St. Enoch" for those of us unfamiliar?</em></p> <p>SRD, here's a map showing the former stations:</p> <p><a href="http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&amp;lat=55.8615&amp;lon=-4.2551&amp;layers=10" rel="nofollow">http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&amp;lat=55.8615&amp;lon=-4.2551&amp;layers=10</a></p> <p>and the modern equivalent on OpenTransportMap:</p> <p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/55.8595/-4.2530&amp;layers=T" rel="nofollow">http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/55.8595/-4.2530&amp;layers=T</a></p> <p>So even if your train from Edinburgh and Falkirk High diverted left at the Cowlairs junction and ran through Springburn and Duke Street and Bellgrove, you can't get to the ground level platforms at Queen Street, only the low level (which you'd get to anyway by taking a train via Bathgate and Airdrie).</p> <p>And your train via Springburn could turn left after Bellgrove and cross the Clyde, but as K said, there isn't a connecting line to bring you straight into Central station. You would have to go as far as one of the Paisley stations before you could really reverse the train to get to Central.</p> <p>I think it was an idea Tulyar had, whereby the old viaduct that led to St Enoch station from Gallowgate could be reopened and a temporary elevated set of platforms constructed in the St Enoch Centre car park, to add some capacity while Queen Street was out of action. Probably too radical for Network Rail and Transport Scotland. </p>