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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Tag: RPM - Recent Posts</title>
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<title>Morningsider on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ah, yes - the famous &#34;Schrodinger's tram&#34;. Simultaneously a loss making white elephant, yet also so essential to transport in the city that the partial suspension of services poses an existential threat to the viability of Leith businesses and the city's tourist economy.
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<title>Arellcat on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Most public transport operators, train operators especially, don't pass on their full operating costs to travellers, and the notion that they 'must' return a profit is perverse.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Publicly funded public transport exists to provide a service to the public.
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 16:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-trams-make-ps9-million-loss-despite-record-revenue-and-passenger-numbers-8826411&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-trams-make-ps9-million-loss-despite-record-revenue-and-passenger-numbers-8826411&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 09:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Princes Street fire: Council considering moving trams by road to enable Leith service &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://archive.ph/ko8ee&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://archive.ph/ko8ee&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 14:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Well (part of) problem is fear of things (fires etc) that are mostly(?) caused by illegal bikes&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And (apparent) inability to enforce existing laws and/or amend laws as required
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<title>Dave on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 12:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;IIRC the government were consulting about recognising ebikes as mobility aids in some context or other (the bar for a building, or a tram operator or train station to ban an electric mobility aid seems to be extremely high, whereas for the same battery installed on a bike, the bar is very low). Not sure where that's at, or if it would generally undermine ebike bans. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My current office allows you to bring anything in, but not charge it. We no longer transport the kids by ebike/trailer or e-cargo bike, but there was a point in time where an office ebike ban would have meant driving them to nursery and taking a bus or regular bike on from there, the kind of social impact that a government wanting to promote greener travel might be interested to legislate to protect..
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<title>Arellcat on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 09:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Tulyar is right to call out the gig worker economy for encouraging unchecked proliferation of electric mopeds masquerading as e-bikes, and whatever underground movement exists to service that demand – but to bring the argument back to trams, the likelihood of such an e-bike catching fire onboard a tram is surely the same as one catching fire not onboard a tram.  How often does that actually happen?  I'm sure it must do occasionally; I've never seen one in flames but I'm not in town 24 hours a day.  And how often does an e-bike from a reputable brand catch fire?  I've even less seen that happen.
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<title>Arellcat on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Yodhrin, I'm sure I've posted about this before in here but the search function is broken.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It would be instructive to ask CEC to show their risk assessment criteria.  Back of the envelope thinking here, but an e-bike battery fire onboard a tram may be rare or unlikely in terms of likelihood – itself a combination of likelihood that a bike onboard is an e-bike &#60;em&#62;and&#60;/em&#62; that the e-bike is a bit shonky.  The inherent likelihood of a shinky e-bike is reduced because those bikes are mostly not being brought onboard trams in the first place.  At any rate, combine that likelihood score with a major or severe impact were it to occur and you still get an overall risk that is three or four times smaller than the highest possible risk.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The control measure would therefore be simply to remove the source of risk altogether (that is, &#34;NO E-BIKES&#34;), since &#34;NO BIKES&#34; would be an unreasonable level of mitigation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is possibly some confirmation bias on both sides, since e-bikes in Edinburgh may constitute a higher proportion of bikes in daily use compared with other cities with trams that allow bikes onboard, if there are any.  One counter argument I often thought about is how the scoring of impact ought to allow for the fact that an e-bike battery contains far more energy than most other lithium batteries we carry every day, in our bags, pockets and on our wrists.  But even a phone battery contains enough energy to produce quite a decent little fire, enough probably to cause panic amongst passengers, &#60;em&#62;probably&#60;/em&#62; not enough to set a tram on fire though.
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<title>Yodhrin on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 22:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Tulyar Yeah sorry man, I don't buy it. The actual risk is statistically nonexistent(I've currently got an FoI request in with Merseyrail about their supposed &#34;safety review&#34; to find out what evidence and criteria they used in their ban, and Edinburgh Trams will be getting the same if Spokes can't get them to back down - I suspect the answer in weaselly terms will be &#34;sweet FA&#34; and that this is happening almost exclusively at the behest of one particular union who are using a single incident on a platform on the London Underground as an excuse to push a full ban with operators nationwide as they did in London, why I have no idea).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Powered wheelchairs are still allowed, mobility scooters are still allowed - their batteries are at least as large as any EAPC, and I've known people who've replaced old failed battery packs in mobility devices with &#34;shonky foreign jobs&#34; because the official replacements were so expensive when out of warranty. Laptops and mobiles are still allowed despite the fact that there have been scandals in recent years where both types of device exploded or caught fire either injuring people or burning down buildings. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lithium batteries and their risks are simply part of modern life, there is no rational, evidence-based reason I've yet seen to specifically single out ebikes and hold them to a different standard.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've seen suggestions that the various bans are less about battery safety and more about the wider context; they always seem to be happening in places that are working to enable more cycling and encourage multimodal journeys but where operators have invested in infrastructure and rolling stock with poor provision for bicycles, and banning ebikes which are quickly becoming the main kind of bicycle people use for utility transport is a way of simply not having to deal with the increased demand for capacity, a way for their staff to not have to deal with customers forced to wait on a platform because a train or tram only has space for two bikes. A cop out, essentially.
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 18:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-to-newhaven-must-be-resumed-urgently-after-debenhams-fire-in-princes-street-8810802&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-to-newhaven-must-be-resumed-urgently-after-debenhams-fire-in-princes-street-8810802&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Tulyar on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@chdot Lee Harrison seems to have jumped from the frying pan into the fire with his move to replace Jane Cole - wife of Barry Cole who was a railway manager covering the WCML routes in Lancashire &#38;amp; other transport projects, as his move to Blackpool Trams landed at the same time as their heritage tram base (the old Rigby Road depot was condemned, and then the wheel condition for their new Flexcity tram fleet was given a safety close-down order by ORR, due to the raised risks of derailments with worn tyres&#60;br /&#62;
Blackpools trams are Alsthom - Edinburghs are CAF but I've noted some internal rows concerning the tyre wear &#38;amp; thus risks of flange climbing &#38;amp; derailments&#60;br /&#62;
All this is somewhat technical &#38;amp; would relate to operating trams on railway tracks, where pointwork &#38;amp; other detail requires certain adaptations. Happy to discuss off CCE forum with engineers, as I've been building railways &#38;amp; tram tracks since 1968 (when I was building a new railway as a volunteer in N Wales, alongside John Grimshaw, before he started building cycle routes!
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<title>Tulyar on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 13:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@yodhrin as with the rampant abuse of e-mopeds through the unregulated commercial use of public roads with illegally 'employed' gig workers where the principals (Just Eat etc) fail to keep records&#60;br /&#62;
We also fail miserably with trading standards (Edinburgh Council) failing to regulate the sale of illegal (for road use) and dangerous (wiring &#38;amp; control circuits) battery powered vehicles&#60;br /&#62;
The Dutch, at government level have impounded container-loads of dangerous battery powered machines, and the local councils closed down retailers selling these machines&#60;br /&#62;
In the UK all electric MOPEDS should be sold with a form V5 to register these as motor vehicles &#38;amp; ensure the legal criteria are delivered at the point of sale&#60;br /&#62;
Eliminating the sale of dangerous lithium ion battery powered kit should reduce the fire risk through eliminating the high risk of short circuits &#38;amp; cell failures in these batteries with bad &#38;amp; cheap circuits&#60;br /&#62;
The Union Street fire in Glasgow also highlighted a serious hole in legislation for storage of lithium battery equipment which needs the same levels of fire containment as flammable products like organic solvents &#38;amp; gas cylinders etc&#60;br /&#62;
A wake-up call which is being ignored?
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 09:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Elph&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Among his many community and social projects, Brian worked with North Edinburgh Arts in Muirhouse, Lothian Cat Rescue and a project to brighten the city during tram construction works. His small mural ‘The Fairy Boy of Leith’ on Leith Walk was inspired by a 17th century folk tales of a young child believed to have second sight, who would commune with elves on Calton Hill by night. Brian continued to make long ‘joiner’ pieces beside the Newhaven tram tracks up until very recently with Many Style Crew members. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/health/26233111.talented-street-artist-huge-heart-dies-aged-48/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/health/26233111.talented-street-artist-huge-heart-dies-aged-48/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://archive.ph/nw0qE&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://archive.ph/nw0qE&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Yodhrin on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 16:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh forgot to mention, I emailed Spokes about the ebikes on trams thing, apparently they have set a meeting with ET to discuss it and see what the heck is going on. If anyone else has been impacted or knows someone who has, it may help to also email Spokes and let them know your situation as well to give them more ammo?
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 13:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-trams-boss-received-excessive-ps370000-pay-off-council-chiefs-call-for-immediate-investigation-8758797&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-trams-boss-received-excessive-ps370000-pay-off-council-chiefs-call-for-immediate-investigation-8758797&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2026 15:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;br /&#62;
Only a truly connected Edinburgh will be able to meet the challenges of the future Edinburgh is changing at a rapid pace. We’re the fastest growing city in Scotland, at twice the rate of Glasgow, in the fastest growing region in the country. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This trend represents significant opportunities in terms of economic growth, investment and jobs but also places increasing pressure on our communities, and on the city’s transport infrastructure. We’re also facing into the climate, nature, and housing emergencies, alongside the urgent need to tackle poverty and improve the life chances of people living in the poorest areas of our city. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(Good argument for &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.Powderhall.Link…&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.Powderhall.Link…&#60;/a&#62;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/fast-growing-edinburgh-stands-at-a-crossroads-and-its-trams-are-key-8751466?v%3D&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/fast-growing-edinburgh-stands-at-a-crossroads-and-its-trams-are-key-8751466?v%3D&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edinburgh's proposed new North-South tramline risks becoming a &#34;fantasy project&#34; due to lack of funding, a senior councillor has claimed.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Liberal Democrat transport spokesman Kevin Lang said there was currently &#34;no credible funding plan&#34; for the project and therefore &#34;no realistic prospect&#34; of it being built. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-north-south-tramline-risks-becoming-fantasy-project-due-to-lack-of-funding-claims-senior-councillor-8668170?ref=edinburghminute.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-north-south-tramline-risks-becoming-fantasy-project-due-to-lack-of-funding-claims-senior-councillor-8668170?ref=edinburghminute.com&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;New tram line increases property prices by up to 37 per cent &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/espc-reveals-how-the-newhaven-tram-extension-has-impacted-edinburgh-property-prices-along-the-new-line-8665956&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/espc-reveals-how-the-newhaven-tram-extension-has-impacted-edinburgh-property-prices-along-the-new-line-8665956&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 16:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/new-edinburgh-tram-line-wins-only-minority-support-in-huge-consultation-response-8665614&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/new-edinburgh-tram-line-wins-only-minority-support-in-huge-consultation-response-8665614&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 08:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;br /&#62;
“One of the main reasons why people join and use the Dean Gardens is to enjoy a peaceful, green space in the city. From the consulting engineers’ report, it is clear that the redevelopment of the Dean Bridge would be a large-scale, prolonged and technically challenging project.” &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26177115.heritage-body-trams-historic-edinburgh-bridge/?ref=edinburghminute.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26177115.heritage-body-trams-historic-edinburgh-bridge/?ref=edinburghminute.com&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://archive.ph/C2x5G&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://archive.ph/C2x5G&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 07:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“Has the fact the trams have now banned ebikes been mentioned yet?”&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Actually no&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I noticed that the other day but was preoccupied with other things&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;More importantly (perhaps) i wasn’t thinking about the consequences &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Your post eloquently examples the impact&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It’s possible that electric bikes on trams have increased because of Voi bikes&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It’s possible that it’s about ‘e-bikes catch fine’&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ScotRail must carry more and longer distances but hasn’t banned them
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 00:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Has the fact the trams have now banned ebikes been mentioned yet? Apparently they just decided in May without any discussion I've been able to find and the conductors are turning people away with reference to their website, where no reasoning or justification is given just a bald statement they're not allowed at any time.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I cannot adequately state my reaction to that without breaking the forum rules. Riding in to Ingliston and catching the tram was my favourite &#34;lazy nice day&#34; way to get into Edinburgh - something I already couldn't do for the whole month of August because of the half-bummed way the trams begrudgingly permitted bikes aboard. Nevermind the people *really* impacted who were using tram+ebike as a commute or for other necessary trips.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Absolute nonsense.
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<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2026 07:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;France has built around 300,000 new homes per year in recent years - roughly the same number that successive British Governments have set as a target but never achieved. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One significant enabler has been the systematic expansion of tramway networks, with new lines opened across French towns and cities over the past two decades, many explicitly designed to enable suburban housing growth. This report examines whether a similar tram- enabled housing model that avoids accessibility being car-dependent could be replicated in Britain. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.createstreets.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Towns-and-Trams.pdf&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.createstreets.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Towns-and-Trams.pdf&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Tulyar on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 09:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;In major cities the delivery of the greater frequency of tram services through a city core sees this being resolved by grade separation, and putting the trams in a tunnel under the centre &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've also done a lot of work on the delivery of robust standards for installing steel rails in a range of pavements. In 1999 after the debacle of the 4 new generation tram systems falling apart with rails moving in the concrete and tarmac, I worked to revise the 1870 Tramways Act with a lot of detail on the mechanics of losing control of a bicycle when it hits a raised steel edge. I also looked at rail level crossings and the poor standards for the pavement surfaces in tarmac, timber, concrete &#38;amp; rubber, all of which had caused fatalities to pedestrians and cyclists using defective surfaces which had not been fixed (for Staines the fatality was 12 years after the inspection had called for the issue to be fixed!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I now have over 10 years of recording the poor detail underlying the construction and maintenance of the Edinburgh Tram track that I really need to get collated as a detilewd piece, and would really like to get the resources to deliver this, based on over 60 years of working with transport systems (in 1968 I was helping to build a new railway line in Wales!) &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Over 100 years ago the Caledonian Railway prepared plans for a double track tunnel under Princes Street with some of the core logs at BGS looking to be part of this work and confirming thet the ground conditions are a factor in the continuing movement of the highway pavements along the Edinburgh Tram route from Haymarket to Waverley&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yet along the tram route using the street above, almost every load transfer joint between each section of the upper track slab between these points has cracked (2 cracks about 30 cm apart, and lumps of concrete fall out with patches in a variety of styles, plus many steel frames for access chambers and valve covers come loose and sink with the tarmac falling out - because tarmac does NOT stick to steel at all well - with steel plates covering the worst holes - often for a year or more. This problem required a complete redesign and rebuilding of the on street section on Princes Street with the side shoulders of the track having the tarmac replaced by black coloured concrete before the line opened, but the tarmac still breaks away from the edge of this and sinks/cracks plus the blockwork also moving and coming loose (because it was laid with a slack bond &#38;amp; the gaps filled by brushing in a 'dry mix' mortar which then falls out as it gets loaded by traffic &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Drawing from the 1963 project at Oxford Circus in London and a system used in Switzerland now to rebuild a road for the full depth of the road structure by placing a portable steel umbrella over the excavations and constructing the new road under the existing route with traffic still running overhead&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/50-years-ago-a-huge-steel-umbrella-for-oxford-circus-tube-station-8955/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/50-years-ago-a-huge-steel-umbrella-for-oxford-circus-tube-station-8955/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;From the Core logs this means that the digging along Princes street will be a mix of glacial clay and gravels over a fractured bed of shale with the existing Scotland Street Tunnel neatly in place to remove the excavated material in large quantities, continuously and with minimised dust and dirt on a covered conveyor out  to the Water of Leith where it can be ferried away on barges for land reclamation as appropriate&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Placing the trams under the main street also enables the ey stops to be moved to better places (Shandwick Place/Maitland Street to the Junction at Lothian Road, and St Andrew Square to a new atrium space directly linked to the lower level of Waverley Market and through to the main bridge across Waverley Station, with the old Scotland Street Tunnel as a pedestrian link to the North &#38;amp; Canonmills&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With the new station locations a third or fourth track can be included to regulate the trams from each radial route and even turn services back when an intensive service may be required to move crowds from events (eg at Murrayfield running an intensive service between Haymarket and Edinburgh Gateway when the event ends)     &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With the tram route under the street the junction for Leith (and also for the Bridges/Regent Road can have track rising up in the centre of Leith Street as a way to sort out the mess of the at grade arrangements of traffic signals  etc between York Place and Picardy Place. As in the original tram systems with this continued world-wide (Hong Kong, Toronto, Belgium - &#38;amp; original Glasgow tram routes) trams should run down the centre of the carriageway, and motor traffic should yield to allow pedestrians to cross to a tram stop (the law in Toronto, Hong Kong, Boston) when a tram stops there&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It should be interesting to see whether a report or a safety bulletin is produced following the recent pedestrian injury after a collision with a tram on Leith Walk
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 11:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Can’t say I understand this!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The council has said under the terms of the agreement with DLA Piper it cannot disclose the amount of the settlement.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However, SNP councillor Danny Aston accused the Liberal Democrat, Conservative and Green groups of “gross misjudgement” over the way the case was approached and said it could have lost the council a big chunk of the settlement.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He said: “When we had two options on the table - whether to pursue this case independently, on our own, and trust the strength of our legal arguments, or potentially give a very large sum of whatever settlement we ultimately received to a third-party funder, despite the strength of our case, that's what the Lib Dems, Tories and Greens decided to do. It’s only good fortune that the case settled when it did.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/big-chunk-of-edinburgh-councils-tram-settlement-could-have-been-lost-councillor-claims-8613825&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/big-chunk-of-edinburgh-councils-tram-settlement-could-have-been-lost-councillor-claims-8613825&#60;/a&#62;
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah City Deal - glasgow is really using this money to rejuvenate the entire centre  of Glasgow. Admittedly more run down than Centre of Embra.  Oh I recall the Southbridge with the Scientologists trying to trip you in the Street and the people with fleas shopping in WEWW [or Wattys as it was also called in the east]
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<title>bakky on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 09:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>bakky</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Great stuff, now spend the £222m you just landed on implementing the City Mobility Plan…
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 09:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The council and DLA Piper have now reached an out-of-court settlement. The terms of the deal prevent details of the settlement being made public, but lawyers believe the compensation paid is likely to be measured in tens of millions of pounds and less than half the initial total claimed. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/tram-lawyers-pay-up-to-settle-scotlands&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/tram-lawyers-pay-up-to-settle-scotlands&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 20:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;John Swinney has said he is willing to “engage” with Edinburgh council on the proposed North-South tramline, but has insisted it is a “local project” which the council is responsible for.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And he blamed the trams for the slow progress on the dualling of the A9 between central Scotland and the Highlands, saying the funding of Edinburgh’s original tram project took money away from the road scheme. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;…&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The SNP election manifesto includes an explicit rejection of the Roseburn Path option for the northern part of the new tramline, in line with the position of the SNP group on the council, which has also rejected the alternative Orchard Brae route but has suggested work should start on the southern section of the line while a new route is found between Granton and the city centre.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/holyrood-elections-2026-john-swinney-on-edinburghs-new-tramline-reopening-the-south-sub-and-snp-seats-at-risk-8498759&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/holyrood-elections-2026-john-swinney-on-edinburghs-new-tramline-reopening-the-south-sub-and-snp-seats-at-risk-8498759&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Tram latest"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;THE first section of Birmingham's eastern tram extension belatedly opened on Easter Sunday. Tracks at the far end are already in place but the central section is blocked by HS2 Ltd, which is slowly building an oversized station there.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Last month groups including the RAC Foundation and Create Streets released a report called Towns and Trams: Learning from the French. French leaders had told them France opens a new tramway every six months, costing an average £35m per mile. Birmingham's extension, one mile long, is budgeted to cost £352m.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The report said all but two French towns and cities with more than 150,000 people have trams (versus eight of 53 in the UK) and that was one reason France builds the 300,000 homes annually Britain can only aspire to. It urged the UK to streamline &#34;elongated British business case processes&#34; for trams, end &#34;gold plating&#34;, and overhaul policies on utility cables and pipes under future tramlines. The government has promised to create a taskforce which will assess the benefits of &#34;mass transit&#34; systems and the &#34;delivery barriers&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;'Dr B Ching'&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;“&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(Private Eye)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;…&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://www.createstreets.com/projects/towns-and-trams-what-britain-can-learn-from-frances-tram-led-housing-model/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://www.createstreets.com/projects/towns-and-trams-what-britain-can-learn-from-frances-tram-led-housing-model/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;https://bettertransport.org.uk/blog/towns-and-trams-learning-from-the-french/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;https://bettertransport.org.uk/blog/towns-and-trams-learning-from-the-french/&#60;/a&#62;
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