http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Tag: safety - Recent Posts en Tue, 28 Apr 2026 22:56:28 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=988#post-275641 Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:05:52 +0000 chdot 275641@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Support for police discretion when responding to people cycling on the pavement</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/support-for-police-discretion-when-responding-to-people-cycling-on-the-pavement" rel="nofollow">https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/support-for-police-discretion-when-responding-to-people-cycling-on-the-pavement</a></p> <p>Scotland too? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118239 Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:31:38 +0000 Charterhall 118239@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Have you considered a Brompton ? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118234 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:21:37 +0000 crowriver 118234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Accendino, judging from the Googol Streetview link you posted above, you are not the only one with bike parking issues as I counted 3 bikes locked to a lamp post in the car park! (Pan around to the left and you can see them). Typical that car parking (eve garages) are provided but no bike parking. If as you say there is a bike rack (Sheffield stand? Wheel benders?) then that could be used. I doubt a thief will bother carting off the whole rack if your bike is not very valuable. As others say though you could ask the landlord/property owner to bolt it to the ground/a wall. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118200 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:18:37 +0000 Roibeard 118200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Accendino - bike hoist? I lived in a small tenement flat which had the high Edinburgh ceilings.</p> <p>I fitted a hoist to the floor joists above and with bike in place I still had room to walk below (but I don't exceed 6').</p> <p>A bit of care was required if the bike was dripping wet - muddy snow is a particularly unpleasant drip if it goes down your neck...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118138 Tue, 16 Jul 2013 01:46:45 +0000 gkgk 118138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What you need is a (car) trailer with a sheffield stand bolted onto it, pushed into one of those parking places then wheel-clamped.</p> <p>Or an old caravan with a suitable anchor point for the bike lock. That'd do it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118084 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:18:51 +0000 sallyhinch 118084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I lived in London, I kept my (not very desirable) hybrid locked up more or less on the street for 3 years and the worse thing that happened to it was that it occasionally smelled of fox wee. I also locked it up daily outside Vauxhall station (not a very salubrious area) where the worst thing that happened was that it smelled of human wee. So if you've got a non-precious bike, it's a fairly viable solution. It would be sensible to move it around a bit so that an opportunistic bike thief doesn't pass it every day and decide it's worth investing in a set of bolt cutters. </p> <p>For dream bikes - I wonder whether two or three people could get together and rent a storage space to allow people to keep their precious steeds somewhere really secure? As long as it's not your daily ride it wouldn't be too inconvenient... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118082 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:05:18 +0000 Accendino 118082@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have also been looking into buying my new 'dream' bike to take my cycling adventures to the next level, but honestly I don't dare, as long as I don't have anywhere safe I can keep it.<br /> My current one would be fine with on-street parking, as long as there is something solid I can lock it to. </p> <p>And again, no, I really have no options of keeping it indoor as my shared flat is too small, on the third floor and we are not allowed to leave stuff in the staircase. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118081 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:00:24 +0000 chdot 118081@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not forgetting this one -</p> <p>"</p> <p>City of Edinburgh Council Design and installation of cycle storage systems for flatted developments.</p> <p>£15,000</p> <p>"<br /> <a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/oldsite/chaldet.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/oldsite/chaldet.htm</a></p> <p>I think that was 1997/8. </p> <p>Vague feeling project didn't go ahead. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118079 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:52:44 +0000 Kim 118079@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back in 2009 I started lobbing to get <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=459">more cycle parking in Edinburgh</a> since then there has been talk from CEC but relatively little action. By October last year <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1816">this was as far as things had gone</a> and not much further since. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118078 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:22:29 +0000 SRD 118078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I tweeted link to this conversation and Jim Orr responded with this link <a href="http://goo.gl/oYHJm" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/oYHJm</a> </p> <p>After 2 years development, they are about to start 2 years of 'trialing' on street bike parking in 3 locations. </p> <p>sigh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118072 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:43:54 +0000 SRD 118072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bikes on landings/railings can also prevent old/young people from easily grasping railings while going up/downstairs and handlebars/pedals poking through railings can easily catch those who are unsteady on their feet and pitch them downstairs, with resulting broken bones. </p> <p>May seem like I'm going overboard H&amp;S here, but try following behind a toddler or an elderly neighbour and you'll see what I mean. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118071 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:41:12 +0000 kaputnik 118071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The fire brigade also dissaprove of bikes on landings (for emergency access point of view).</p> <p>There are bike racks just inside the Art School, but access is only available if/when art school or the Wee Red Bar is open. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118069 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:38:26 +0000 SRD 118069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"railing on the landing" police say this is the worst possible place to lock a bike. on the street under a streetlight much safer. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118068 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:36:00 +0000 DaveC 118068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hi Accendino,</p> <p>I feel for you having no where to store your bike ouside. When floor do you live on, could you lock your bike to the railing on the landing? perhaps if you live on the top floor?</p> <p>There are Sheffield stands outside The Premier Inn at the top of your road, and also outside the Blood Donor Suit further up opposite the Art School. If you have a lock you trust, you could lock it up there as a temporary measure?</p> <p>As others have said, do you have room in your flat?</p> <p>Good luck. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118066 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:35:15 +0000 Accendino 118066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks everyone:<br /> Unfortunately there are no options inside the flat or even the building because of lack of space and regulations.</p> <p>So I'm looking for on-street storage.</p> <p>I attached my bike to the side of a front garden fence. My fault, but I was short of alternatives since poles in the street are all of the kind that an U-lock can't handle. I wrote to: <a href="mailto:cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk">cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk</a> explaining the issue. </p> <p>I don't know who the space between buildings (<a href="https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=13+lauriston+gardens&amp;ll=55.943631,-3.199832&amp;spn=0.00322,0.010568&amp;sll=55.942899,-3.198873&amp;layer=c&amp;cbp=13,105.77,,0,19.68&amp;cbll=55.943603,-3.199967&amp;gl=uk&amp;hnear=13+Lauriston+Gardens,+Edinburgh+EH3,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=h&amp;z=17&amp;panoid=XLNPPzCEQRZVDghthmAojQ" rel="nofollow">https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=13+lauriston+gardens&amp;ll=55.943631,-3.199832&amp;spn=0.00322,0.010568&amp;sll=55.942899,-3.198873&amp;layer=c&amp;cbp=13,105.77,,0,19.68&amp;cbll=55.943603,-3.199967&amp;gl=uk&amp;hnear=13+Lauriston+Gardens,+Edinburgh+EH3,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=h&amp;z=17&amp;panoid=XLNPPzCEQRZVDghthmAojQ</a>) with the car park belongs to, but hopefully the 'flying' bike rack there can be fixed or replaced with something usable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118063 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:26:38 +0000 Morningsider 118063@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>kaputnik - you are (of course) correct - my previous post only applies to the font gardens. I hadn't even thought about the back greens as I never think of these as being "gardens". I had assumed that Accendino had locked their bike to a front garden fence. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118062 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:15:28 +0000 kaputnik 118062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> as Edinburgh tenement gardens (and their fences) belong to the people in the ground floor flat.</em></p> <p>Do you just mean front gardens? As far as I'm aware, tenement rear gardens are in common ownership and/or responsibility of all the main stair properties. Segregated areas accessed only from "main door" flats are the responsibility of that particular flat. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118061 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:13:15 +0000 kaputnik 118061@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ask the landlord / building management to either fix the rack to the ground or install a ground/wall anchor so you can secure it.</p> <p>Is there anything in your basement where you could attach a strong length of chain of the sort used to secure motorcycles - a downpipe or similar? You could lock it to that.</p> <p>Some people are pedantic and/or aggresive and you just can't deal with so there's no point trying. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118060 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:09:34 +0000 Morningsider 118060@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Accendino - bike parking in Edinburgh tenements is an ongoing problem. SPOKES, the Lothian cycle campaign, has produced a useful leaflet on this topic:</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Fact-sheet-v10-231210.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Fact-sheet-v10-231210.pdf</a></p> <p>As a long time flat dweller, I would say if you have room in your flat to store your bike then that is probably the best solution. You probably shouldn't have locked your bike to the garden fence, as Edinburgh tenement gardens (and their fences) belong to the people in the ground floor flat. However, that doesn't excuse the person's outburst. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118057 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:04:41 +0000 SRD 118057@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>not ideal solutions: lock to pole in street? there must be some?? buy a folding bike and take it into flat. ask landlord/building management to turn private car parking space into bike rack? (hard to know w/out seeing space)</p> <p>But one thing you really ought to do is email your councillors via writetothem.com and tell them it is a problem! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10716#post-118056 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:56:27 +0000 Accendino 118056@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hello everyone,</p> <p>I am a keen biker, but I am experiencing some issues with parking my bike.<br /> I recently moved to Lauriston Gardens, where there are no facilities for parking the bike.<br /> In the internal space towards my flat there are several parking slots for cars, but nothing for bicycles, apart from a small bike rack that is not attached to anything and is abandoned in a corner, unusable.</p> <p>This means, the only secure storage space I have for my bike is to leave it at work in the bike shed, but that way I can't ride it to work.</p> <p>Last night I left it, for the first time, locked to a house fence on my street, as that was the only thing I could lock my bike to. The bike was attached to the side, completely out of the way, both for people accessing the flat and for pedestrians. While picking it up this morning I have been verbally abused by the flat occupier, who shouted at me from behind the curtains of their open window "she's finally f***ing taking the stupid bike!" and more along the lines, with so much hathred and anger in their voice, that I left literally shocked and scared about someone like that damaging my bike or becoming aggressive.</p> <p>Why does it need to be so difficult? Why can't I just lock my bike to a secured bike rack where it shouldn't bother anyone? What can I do if I want to continue riding and stay safe?</p> <p>Thanks,<br /> Silvia </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10018#post-108648 Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:11:42 +0000 chdot 108648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The roadshow organised by the City of Edinburgh Council's Road Safety Team"</p> <p>Seems they need to talk to some of their staff -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&amp;page=36#post-108208" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3748&amp;page=36#post-108208</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10018#post-108647 Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:03:52 +0000 SRD 108647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today!</p> <p>(nice that they passed along the blog link i sent them :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10018#post-108603 Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:25:30 +0000 cc 108603@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> (Edinburgh) University is hosting a roadshow tomorrow to highlight a very important road safety message to cyclists about avoiding being caught in the blind spot of large vehicles. The roadshow organised by the City of Edinburgh Council's Road Safety Team will be between 11am and 2pm, by Bristo Square. With the help of a 20 tonne lorry (which will be stationary!) cyclists will be invited to sit in the driver's seat to experience first-hand just how extensive the blind spot of a heavy goods vehicle is. I understand there will also be bike related freebies!</p> <p>Please spread this message far and wide to encourage as much participation as possible.</p> <p>I was recently sent the link to this blog, which includes some life-saving advice on this topic:</p> <p><a href="http://ibikelondon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/advice-for-us-all-cycling-safely-with.html">http://ibikelondon.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/advice-for-us-all-cycling-safely-with.html</a><br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63525 Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:59:26 +0000 lastuphill 63525@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sometimes 'as much space as possible' is not enough. If you use this method of positioning your vehicle when passing cyclists, there is no guarantee that enough room has been left. This method assumes that every road you drive on would be of a minimum width.</p> <p>Surely more important to be spacially aware and realise if you are giving a cyclist enough space or not. If you can not do so then slow down and wait until you can use the other side of the road to pass. You are, after all allowed to cross the centre white line (unless a solid line, when soecific conditions apply). </p> <p>Just moving to the right most side of your lane autimatically, without thinking about the variables involved, in my opinion, is fraught with all sorts of problems. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63495 Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:29:09 +0000 Nelly 63495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Police advanced drivers are taught to line up on middle of road, not left - same reasons as us taking primary, door openers and peds stepping into road. Plus it gives a better view of whats coming toward you. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63377 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:22:21 +0000 Uberuce 63377@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Roibeard Oh, please. Your Pino scares me more than my wee cute blue floofy bike could ever scare you. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63369 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:28:42 +0000 LivM 63369@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My driving instructor pointed out the "line up with the centre white line not the edge of the road white line" trick to me, when she realised that the narrowing and widening of a road meant I was wobbling all over the place. So I would line up where the centre white line is meant to be in relation to my windscreen/wipers, and sorted out the problem. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63362 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:21:55 +0000 Roibeard 63362@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Uberuce - I could barely manage forward on that one!</p> <p>Definitely felt there was some question as to whether I was controlling the bike, or it was controlling me...</p> <p>;-)</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5923#post-63354 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:20:46 +0000 Uberuce 63354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You've been on one, mind. </p>