http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Fury at Edinburgh airport 'access charge' en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:17:55 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=3#post-54673 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:26:16 +0000 SRD 54673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16741035">Charities gain from Edinburgh Airport £1 fee</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=3#post-30554 Wed, 04 May 2011 23:51:31 +0000 chdot 30554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/Judge-blocks-airport39s-latest-bid.6762687.jp" rel="nofollow">http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/Judge-blocks-airport39s-latest-bid.6762687.jp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=3#post-30530 Wed, 04 May 2011 15:45:25 +0000 cb 30530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, things are a lot better than six months ago with two new lifts and 12 new <em>covered</em> bike racks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=3#post-30528 Wed, 04 May 2011 15:31:44 +0000 DaveC 30528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>CB: "<em><a href="http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/hym/details.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/hym/details.html</a></p> <p>The Accessibilty and mobility section is hilarious </em>"</p> <p>On first impressions it looks like nothing has changed.</p> <p><strong>Step Free Access Coverage</strong>, YES Whole station. <em>(Level to platform 1 and 0. Stairs down to platformss 2, 3 &amp; 4. No wheelchair access to platforms 2,3 and 4)</em></p> <p>I believe their lifts are now in operation, but they aught to update their website. Before the lifts were installed I guess wheel chair users were expected to get the train into Edinburgh, wheel round to the other platform and then get the train out again to their destination beyond HYM St. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-30522 Wed, 04 May 2011 14:44:27 +0000 chdot 30522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> LOTHIAN Buses is taking Edinburgh Airport to court amid fears it could lose its lucrative route to the terminal.</p> <p>The council-owned bus firm will today go to the Court of Session in a bid to prevent airport bosses putting out to tender the right to pick up passengers from directly outside.<br /> "<br /> ....</p> <p>"Lothian Buses were absolutely furious that they only found out about this days before the tender was due to go out.</p> <p>"All this seems contrary to the ethos of increasing public transport that the airport talked about when they introduced the £1 drop-off fee. They should be looking to support bus services, not trying to claw more money off them." </p> <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Airport-to-land-up-in.6762239.jp" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Airport-to-land-up-in.6762239.jp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-26453 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:11:36 +0000 recombodna 26453@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mmmmmm chips!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-26448 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:59:09 +0000 kaputnik 26448@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I notice that the sun hasn't stopped rising in the east because of this charge as predicted in the evening chipwrapper </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-26446 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:49:49 +0000 recombodna 26446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Now I don't mind the £1 drop off charge but what they don't tell you is if your vehicle is over 2.2 meters high you find yourself stuck with no option but to enter the short stay car park and fork out £2.20. It's blatant vehicle heightism!!!! Also ryan air charges more for my bicycle than it does for me and it wont even give my bike a seat!!!! fork 'n bike stewards!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-17024 Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:26:39 +0000 chdot 17024@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/Edinburgh-soars-into-UK-airports.6632233.jp">"Edinburgh soars into UK airports top five</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-16907 Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:19:18 +0000 kaputnik 16907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is that code for "the tram is going to stop at the perimeter fence and you can walk or take a shuttle bus the rest of the way"? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-16906 Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:14:39 +0000 chdot 16906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Airport operator BAA is the only organisation in Edinburgh that has "permitted development" (PD) rights, meaning that it does not need planning consent before carrying out development on its grounds.  </p> <p>That means that the council is unable to force  the company to spend money on infrastructure improvements or public transport in the way that it can with other developers through "section 75" legal agreements.<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/City-seeks-tighter-controls-for.6629348.jp" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/City-seeks-tighter-controls-for.6629348.jp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15565 Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:34:12 +0000 chdot 15565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"CRITICS of Edinburgh airport's new £1 "kiss and fly" fee today accused BAA of being "mean-spirited" for planning to charge drivers £5 if they take too long to drop off passengers."</p> <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Controversial-new-airport-charge-goes.6602767.jp" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Controversial-new-airport-charge-goes.6602767.jp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15441 Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:21:38 +0000 Dave 15441@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We're flying to Nepal shortly (I know, I know, it would be a lot more carbon friendly to cycle!) and we paid £460 tax on £430 flights - now that's what I call painful!</p> <p>Bearing this in mind, I find it hard to understand why everybody is in a "fury" about a £1 drop-off fee (which could otherwise be a universal airport development fee, as some airports have - this is just a progressive version of the same thing). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15350 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:28:46 +0000 kaputnik 15350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>hear hear, Morningsider.</p> <p>All aboard the tram for the airport. Change here for the rail link to Edinburgh Waverley. Change here for the bus link to Victoria Quay. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15344 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:11:23 +0000 chdot 15344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://twitter.com/GdnEdinburgh/status/28785131118 ">From GdnEdinburgh on Twitter</a></p> <p>Does this make an airport 'green'? - Edinburgh Airport signs up to 'Green Champions' scheme </p> <p><a href="http://t.co/n8zNyH7" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/n8zNyH7</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15343 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:10:53 +0000 SRD 15343@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yup. Agreed with morningsider on all points. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15341 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:00:43 +0000 recombodna 15341@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fair enough. Good points. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15339 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:45:19 +0000 Morningsider 15339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been trying to ignore this thread, as I feel pretty strongly about it, but as it keeps coming back from the dead I might as well have my say. </p> <p>I'm happy for the charge to go ahead! Why? See below:</p> <p>1. BAA is a private company, proposing to charge for access to privately owned facilities. If the decision proves commercially unattractive they will reverse it.<br /> 2. There will be free drop-off facilities provided slightly further from the terminal.<br /> 3. In 2006 just 27.1% of passengers are dropped-off at Edinburgh Airport, meaning three-quarters of passengers will be unaffected. (Figure from Edinburgh Airport Surface Access Strategy , page 13)<br /> 4. I would imagine that passengers being dropped-off tend to be discretionary travellers (Scottish outbound tourists) and not business travellers or foreign visitors who "boost the economy", so it will not really impact on inward tourism.<br /> 5. It's a pound - if you can afford to fly anywhere this is a marginal amount (I know it might increase - but never above the level of "marginal").<br /> 6. Driving and flying - are you seriously arguing in favour of these on an a cycling blog! (I know for some people these are unavoidable, but many flights from Edinburgh could be made by other less environmentally damaging modes).<br /> 7. "A fair bit of commotion" - two words for you "spending review". That will cause a commotion. Charging £1 to drop someone off at Edinburgh Airport - that will not cause a commotion.</p> <p>Just to clarify earlier comments about the role of the Council, the Council cannot adopt the aiport's roads without the agreement of BAA. Currently BAA pays for the upkeep fo the roads - guess who would have to pay for this if the roads were adopted by the Council? </p> <p>What is it with drivers and their view that any charge, no matter how small, is some major imposition. Come on - let's see a convincing argument why this charge is a bad idea, above the fact opponents don't fancy parting with a pound. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15327 Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:55:53 +0000 sundaybrunch 15327@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thought you might be interested but the drop off charge will be introduced this Friday 29th October. Could cause a fair bit of commotion by the looks of it.</p> <p><a href="http://www.airporthotels.com/blog/news/edinburgh-airport-introduce-contoversial-drop-off-fee/">Edinburgh Airport Introduce Controversial Drop Off Fee</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15052 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:54:06 +0000 chdot 15052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"On second thoughts... there are only six racks in front of Ryrie's so perhaps they /are/ talking about make believe racks."</p> <p>Well yes. </p> <p>There <em>were</em> racks in the car park. Don't know how many or if still 'accessible'. </p> <p>Of course once upon a time there used to be racks on Platform 1 (perhaps only 2 - long time ago...)</p> <p>They were removed for 'security reasons'. </p> <p>This wasn't too much too much of a problem when they had racks in the car park <em>and</em> you could get straight into the station. That option was closed off when they introduced ticket barriers. </p> <p>Anyone seen bike provision in station upgrade or tram stop plans (or is that integrated transport interchange plans??) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15051 Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:40:49 +0000 cb 15051@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I think in their strange wee world they lay claim to those racks."</p> <p>On second thoughts... there are only six racks in front of Ryrie's so perhaps they /are/ talking about make believe racks.</p> <p>Or can't count? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15045 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:17:59 +0000 cb 15045@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Presume don't mean ones in front of Ryrie's??"</p> <p>I think in their strange wee world they lay claim to those racks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15043 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:00:24 +0000 kaputnik 15043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I believe work is currently underway at Haymarket to rectify the long-standing lack of lift access to the platforms. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15040 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:14:13 +0000 chdot 15040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Yes<br /> 8 cycle racks.<br /> "</p> <p>Really?</p> <p>Are they still there? Car park shut - so are the steps. </p> <p>Presume don't mean ones in front of Ryrie's?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15038 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:14:19 +0000 cb 15038@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/hym/details.html">http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/hym/details.html</a></p> <p>The Accessibilty and mobility section is hilarious </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15036 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:41:33 +0000 DaveC 15036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I travel into work on the train from Fife, I hear the automatic anouncement saying that you can get the bus to the airport at Inverkeithing and Haymarket. Haymarket doesn't even have a lift and only has access via stairs now. The door to the old carpark seems closed permenantly. I also see they have two sets of ramps for wheel chairs. I'd love to see someone turn up at the station asking to get on to the platform. But back on the topic, I'm not sure how often the bus turns up at Inverkeithing heading for the Airport. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-15032 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:10:17 +0000 sundaybrunch 15032@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I notice this thread has run dry. In the next couple of weeks the charges will be introduced BUT the Lord Provest has recently urged Edinburgh City Council to buy back the airport roads and abolish the charges.</p> <p>I have created another thread where we may discuss the possible repercussions and personal experiences of drop off fee when it is introduced:</p> <p><a href="http://www.airportforums.co.uk/topic/should-edinburgh-city-council-buy-back-airport-roads">Should Edinburgh City Council Buy Back Airport Roads?</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-13632 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:28:53 +0000 sundaybrunch 13632@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think they will introduce a ticketed system because as you say it is far too time consuming.</p> <p>At belfast international you pay by coin on exit. But i'm sure if you don't have the right change you'll be able to pay on card...or perhaps fine you...they'll find some way to fleece you! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-13630 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:50:56 +0000 Stepdoh 13630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My query is the logistics of it all, are they going to have a coin slot at the barrier, and what if you get to the front and don't have change, under the one way system in place at the moment there would be no-way to get through. </p> <p>Or do you take a ticket, drop the person off, then walk to the machine pay and walk back to your car, turning a 30 second job into a 3 minute one.</p> <p>There are signs up for it now on the approach road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1001&page=2#post-13627 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:15:26 +0000 sundaybrunch 13627@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hi guys you, like me, all seem to feel pretty strongly on the subject. I have started up a facebook campaign and would really like you guys to join in the discussion:</p> <p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=146853945356764">Oppose the Drop Off Charges at Edinburgh Airport</a></p> <p>I also covered a story on the impact of the changes at Belfast International Airport which were implemented back in July:</p> <p><a href="http://www.belfastinternationalairportparking.com/news/drop-off-charges/">Belfast International Airport Parking Drop Off Charges</a></p> <p>Thanks in advance for all your support. Please take the opportunity to have your say on the issues at Edinburgh and Belfast.</p> <p>Hopefully if we can grow a strong online community opposing the changes the government will have to stand up to greedy airport operators!</p> <p>For updates you can also follow us on Twitter <a href="http://twitter.com/airportinfo">@airportinfo</a> </p>