http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh road safety - from 1950 en Fri, 22 May 2026 02:44:10 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-183138 Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:46:52 +0000 cb 183138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"From the Maybury Roundabout to Moray Place, shot during the 60s, through the windscreen of a Ford Consul"</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURavaLSJM0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURavaLSJM0</a></p> <p>Goes a bit fast after the first mile or so. I set Youtube to play at 0.25 speed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109433 Thu, 02 May 2013 13:51:56 +0000 cb 109433@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Poynton scheme:</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDDMzq7d0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzDDMzq7d0</a></p> <p>(Knew about this youtube vid after Dave linked to it here: <a href="http://mccraw.co.uk/leith-walk-consultation-redesign/">http://mccraw.co.uk/leith-walk-consultation-redesign/</a> ) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109408 Thu, 02 May 2013 10:55:49 +0000 Bhachgen 109408@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>The peds are simply putting the concept of "shared space" into good use.</em></blockquote></p> <p>Passed through <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poynton#Transport">Poynton</a>, in Cheshire recently, which has actually put this into practise in the centre of the village. Unfortunately due to the concept being so alien in this country, the benefit it brings in terms of visual attractiveness is rather detracted from by the dozens of signs explaining it to motorists. (it's too new for Street View so I can't illustrate this).</p> <p>Other than that minor downside it seems to work really well. My perception was that traffic flow seemed no worse than a standard traffic light controlled crossroads would have been, but in a far, far more pleasant environment. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109332 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:39:25 +0000 crowriver 109332@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is it me or does the chap doing the voiceover sound a bit like Ivor Cutler? A wee bit of a Hebridean brogue to his voice too... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109326 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:22:17 +0000 Min 109326@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They didn't have any choice. They just had to plunge in to the middle of all the motor cars as best they could, it was the only way to get across the road.</p> <p>Very striking how the motorist actually swerves when the cyclist comes out unexpectedly. I mean he is miles away. It is almost as if the driver is <em>trying</em> to avoid hitting him. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109319 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:00:52 +0000 kaputnik 109319@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Look at pre 1950s photos of Edinburgh, and it's not the lack of motor vehicles that strikes you so much as the lack of parked vehicles in town. So plenty more room available ont he roads as they were serving their intended purpose of being a carriageway, not a car park.</p> <p>After the 1960s it all goes down hill. Anyone that claims its traffic calming that's caused congestion should refer to photos from the 60s thru 80s and we had it back then too. Perhaps even worse in some locations. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109317 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:54:25 +0000 Arellcat 109317@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Fewer vehicles around blocking the view of the road immediately ahead?</em></p> <p>More likely just fewer vehicles, and the space for bicycle riders to make the required angled manoeuvers that modern taxi drivers dislike so. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109309 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:22:57 +0000 wingpig 109309@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...how on earth did cyclists manage back then, what with the maze of trams lines on the streets?"</em></blockquote></p> <p>Chubblier tyres, more upright riding positions, lower speeds, habitual rail-avoidance?<br /> Fewer vehicles around blocking the view of the road immediately ahead?<br /> Competently-laid roads and rails? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109307 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:21:44 +0000 Dave 109307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They fell off - mortality and injury rates were quite a lot worse in those days! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109306 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:14:00 +0000 PS 109306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The peds are simply putting the concept of "shared space" into good use. :)</p> <p>I'm increasingly of the view that this is the way forward - drivers should be aware that peds have priority in town centres (cos that's what cities are for) and they should drive carefully accordingly. Militant pedestrianism FTW.</p> <p>Presumably it was like this until the ascendancy of the motor car in the 60s and 70s? </p> <p>On another note, how on earth did cyclists manage back then, what with the maze of trams lines on the streets? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10072#post-109289 Wed, 01 May 2013 08:51:31 +0000 cb 109289@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A visitor's views on Edinburgh road safety. Bit of a dim view of pedestrians and cyclists.</p> <p>Only a short clip but interesting viewing.</p> <p><a href="http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=7304">http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=7304</a> </p>