http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Dutch Style roundabout trial in London en Sun, 17 May 2026 07:22:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109570 Fri, 03 May 2013 20:46:53 +0000 chdot 109570@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://road.cc/content/news/82246-tfl-and-transport-research-laboratory-unveil-dutch-style-roundabout-and-other" rel="nofollow">http://road.cc/content/news/82246-tfl-and-transport-research-laboratory-unveil-dutch-style-roundabout-and-other</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109434 Thu, 02 May 2013 13:55:59 +0000 Calum 109434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's not quite right; the cycle track should be coloured red, and the red colour should extend across the intersection with motor vehicles. Also, it should use British Give Way markings - it currently uses Dutch markings, and people are bound to be confused by this. These changes would make it clearer that cyclists have priority.</p> <p>That said, it's good to see them considering things like this instead of the usual shambles at long last. The sooner it comes to real streets, the better. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109348 Wed, 01 May 2013 13:51:14 +0000 DaveC 109348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Probably cheaper than this system! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109347 Wed, 01 May 2013 13:28:50 +0000 neddie 109347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Employ a man with a red flag at each motor vehicle entrance of the roundabout to pilot cars through... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109340 Wed, 01 May 2013 12:06:07 +0000 DaveC 109340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't see these being rolled out in the UK until the second half of this century, unfortunatley. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109336 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:50:48 +0000 Baldcyclist 109336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Confusion at 2mins 4s where driver doesn't know cyclist has right of way and cyclist has to stop. Can see lots of that happening initially.</p> <p>Drivers will need retrained to use such roundabouts rather than just signage, as road users (deliberate use to include all) tend not to pay much attention to signs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109333 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:41:52 +0000 PS 109333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"such a roundabout would need pretty heavy signposting"</em></p> <p>Perhaps, but the unusualness of the roundabout tends to put a driver on guard, precisely because they're not entirely sure what to do. It's like the naked streets concept. They slow down and observe. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109330 Wed, 01 May 2013 11:36:15 +0000 fimm 109330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oooh look, they work if you go round them clockwise as well as anticlockwise! Who knew?</p> <p>Sarcasm aside, such a roundabout would need pretty heavy signposting: "Motorists give way to cyclists crossing side roads", "cyclists you have priority, keep moving" because many people won't have seen a thing like that before and will need a bit of advice as to how it works. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109316 Wed, 01 May 2013 10:43:42 +0000 PS 109316@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tell you what, Andrew Gilligan hasn't half lost weight since he took up cycling. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10073#post-109294 Wed, 01 May 2013 09:28:52 +0000 DaveC 109294@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22350776" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22350776</a> </p>