http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "... additional funding for Cycling Scotland’s Mutual Respect Campaign ..." en Mon, 18 May 2026 23:01:16 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-118985 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:42:06 +0000 minus six 118985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.voleospeed.co.uk/2013/07/two-sides-to-every-story.html">mutual respect just doesn't cut it</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116573 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:23:25 +0000 Cyclingmollie 116573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>SRD: <em>"how would *you* spend £400 000 and improve cycling?"</em></p> <p>I'd randomly hand out £100 cycling goods vouchers to cyclists commuting into work in December. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116572 Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:08:01 +0000 ruggtomcat 116572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I agree that money for media is a sop, its convient, it doesnt clash with other groups use of the road and its impossible to measure its effectiveness. Keith Brown loves it, so thats the final nail. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116542 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:42:42 +0000 holisticglint 116542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was thinking that surveying not cyclists (rather than drivers) about it would be closer to the mark. You would hope to see a reduction in the number of respondents describing cycling on the road as a dangerous activity . </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116478 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 11:15:25 +0000 SRD 116478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they've surveyed cyclists, that could be interesting. Suspicion is, they surveyed drivers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116475 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:57:03 +0000 holisticglint 116475@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A few 10s of thousand would get you a few simple data loggers based around this sort of thing.</p> <p><a href="https://www.picomake.com/product/proxim-sound-simp" rel="nofollow">https://www.picomake.com/product/proxim-sound-simp</a></p> <p>Dole out to a 200 or so volunteers to mount on their bikes for the commute and watch as the average overtake distance increases over the campaign then decreases afterwards (to hopefully a slightly higher average).</p> <p>I was going to make a snide comment about soft assessment using surveys that Cycle Scotland will probably come back with to @SRD but actually the perceived safety of cyclists is probably just as important in terms of increasing uptake - which I think is the aim of the game. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116468 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:20:44 +0000 SRD 116468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've asked Cycling Scotland for the data on how the assessed the effectiveness of 'give me cycle space'. haven't received anything yet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116462 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:45:21 +0000 Arellcat 116462@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Given that £400k is quite a lot of public money, perhaps it would be worth asking Transport Scotland how they intend to measure the effectiveness of the campaign.</p> <p>Metrics like KSI are probably out of scope, and 'Nearly Hit' and 'Got A Load Of Abuse From Another Road User' aren't going to be the pinnacle of rigour either. Judicious use of surveys is always a nice way of gathering data, as long as you get a fair representation of the people of Scotland (I was going to say 'population', but that would be confused with the statistical population, which I wasn't meaning).</p> <p><em>The Cycle Hub Team will provide support and expert knowledge on local routes and networks</em></p> <p>Sounds good on paper, but is mostly a soft 'look busy' activity that neatly diverts attention away from the national unwillingness to put the infrastructure and laws in place. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116452 Tue, 02 Jul 2013 08:49:07 +0000 fimm 116452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well that's rubbish... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-116412 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:15:10 +0000 chdot 116412@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9185360090/"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/9185360090_5038948c78.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109722 Mon, 06 May 2013 16:14:44 +0000 sallyhinch 109722@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think the cycle hubs themselves are a good idea, nothing wrong with making it easier to switch between bikes and trains. I can think of lots of uses for £400K though </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109720 Mon, 06 May 2013 15:55:58 +0000 steveo 109720@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd employ a guy in a van to drive behind me to ensure I can safely take the lane the whole time... what it would improve road conditions for me! :p </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109719 Mon, 06 May 2013 15:53:16 +0000 SRD 109719@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Honestly, who could think of a better way of investing this money?"</p> <p>great competition idea. how would *you* spend £400 000 and improve cycling? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109717 Mon, 06 May 2013 15:12:12 +0000 PS 109717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"The Cycle Hub Team will provide support and expert knowledge on local routes and networks"</em></p> <p>If you have to tell people about local routes and networks, does that not suggest that they are not in the right place? Sounds like cycling for leisure rather than everyday transport again... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109716 Mon, 06 May 2013 14:56:09 +0000 Morningsider 109716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Excellent - £424,000 for more advertising, which can be summed up as:</p> <p>"Motorists - stop running over cyclists and pedestrians"<br /> "Cyclists - obey the law chaps"<br /> "Pedestrians - keep out of the way of the real traffic"</p> <p>Honestly, who could think of a better way of investing this money? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10113#post-109706 Mon, 06 May 2013 11:52:01 +0000 chdot 109706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/news/Minister-announces-funding-for-vulnerable-road-user%27s-campaign-at-Scotland%27s-first-rail-cycle-hub" rel="nofollow">http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/news/Minister-announces-funding-for-vulnerable-road-user%27s-campaign-at-Scotland%27s-first-rail-cycle-hub</a> </p>