http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Disability Barriers en Mon, 18 May 2026 19:24:55 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-271222 Thu, 04 Jan 2018 01:15:04 +0000 LaidBack 271222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Great to have a view from another perspective. Low down bikes/trikes and handcycles are one set of path users excluded by careless barrier placement. Of course public is confused between those wanting to use non standard bikes and those with no other option. Council does have 'paths for all' group -not sure where that is up to on this.<br /> Forumers and Spokes members have intervened in past on Innocent tunnel and more recently on multiple barrier array near Bingham.<br /> The route over bridge to Portobello was one barracaded off and despite being revised twice is still wrong.<br /> The knock on effect as you say is that more 'non standard' bikes are on roads with general traffic.<br /> If you are hand cyclist often seen on Holyrood Park roads then you'll have had 'mixed' experiences of sharing the park with fossil powered vehicles (other thread on that here somewhere)<br /> Thank you for your post! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-271207 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:26:14 +0000 handcyclist 271207@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As a manual wheelchair user I'm sure I could get through there without problems, I'm not sure about larger powerchairs and mobility scooters though...</p> <p>The graphic is very good, barriers tend to be used in an attempt to limit illegal use, often by motorcycles but unfortunately they just tend to stop legal use by people like me ):</p> <p>Areas I avoid when handcycling around Edinburgh are the speed bumps on NCN 1 at Balbirnie Place (as I ground on them) and the footbridge on NCN 1 over the river Esk near Monktonhall as the drop off going east is bigger than any kerb!<br /> There are also the (probably illegal) barriers at each end of NCN 76 at both the Dalmeny and Hopetoun estates. The barriers at Hopetoun at the quarry gate and Deer Park road are especially irritating as I used to regularly handcycle through the estate this way before the route was changed and the ridiculous gates were installed around 15(?) years ago.</p> <p>There are lots of chicanes that are passable with difficulty like those either end of the Goose Green footbridge in Musselburgh and the bridge over the Newbridge roundabout. I haven't tried to go west along the canal for many years after finding several barriers between the city and Broxburn but I understand the gates along the canal have been opened and it might now be passable all the way to Falkirk.</p> <p>Things have improved no end in Edinburgh over the past 20 years though I now tend to stick to roads. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-271206 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 23:07:25 +0000 Frenchy 271206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone know of similar guidance in Scotland? Cycling by Design suggests gap widths for bollards and chicanes, but often there are multiple rows of barriers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-271204 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 22:04:24 +0000 chdot 271204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surprised a wheelchair can get through all that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-271203 Wed, 03 Jan 2018 21:38:52 +0000 neddie 271203@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is a great graphic to chorey for highlighting any local barriers &amp; tweeting them to councillors etc.:</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/F1Ypgd"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4596/25608918478_cd8a23aefd.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/F1Ypgd">Who can?</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/bonsai_bonus/">Ed</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>Maybe someone could write an app to attach that banner to a photo of barriers, then tweet to local councillors? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-116210 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:52:47 +0000 crowriver 116210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was pootling along with No.2 daughter on Fishwives' Causeway yesterday, when I was pleasantly surprised, nay gobsmacked, to see <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/pZ8Sd">the offending signposts</a> had been moved at the junction of the Causeway and A199.</p> <p>It is now much easier to cycle to/from the Toucan crossing and Fishwive's Causeway. Good stuff, but why on earth was it plonked in the way in the first place?</p> <p>Very quick action taken too: are CEC officers reading this thread I wonder? ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110756 Thu, 16 May 2013 19:41:59 +0000 HankChief 110756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I seem to remember the bridge over the motorway at Newbridge had some tricky bollards to negotiate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110743 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:58:31 +0000 Cyclingmollie 110743@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Blueth: "Are the barriers at the Esk bridge not now either removed or eased following the removal of the Cyclist dismount signs?"</p> <p>The barriers, which are to prevent children running straight into the road on the wayto/from the playing fields (according to my local neighbourhood bobby) were recently replaced. The signs were also replaced. Thread <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8996">here</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110741 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:50:38 +0000 Blueth 110741@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Are the barriers at the Esk bridge not now either removed or eased following the removal of the Cyclist dismount signs? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110739 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:32:41 +0000 crowriver 110739@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not strictly a chicane, but this roadside barrier, coupled with the stone pillar at the entrance gate at the top of the 'zig zag' access to Albion Road up from the Lochend path makes it very tricky to get to the (deliberately misaligned) toucan crossing: <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/0q9wA" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/0q9wA</a></p> <p>Again, not really a chicane but these traffic barriers, chevron signs and lamp posts may as well be, such is the excessive narrowing effect of their presence on the Council's 'flagship' off road route down Seafield Road: <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/I8j5S" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/I8j5S</a></p> <p>Again, no strictly a chicane, but this crossing makes it as difficult as humanly possible to cycle across the toucan and continue on to Fishwives' Causeway. The fence, the deliberate misalignment leading to a wall, the traffic sign plonked right in the way! <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/pZ8Sd" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/pZ8Sd</a></p> <p>Ironic indeed that this sign/chicane advertises the cycle route into the centre!<br /> <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/kn6Mt" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/kn6Mt</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110736 Thu, 16 May 2013 15:54:23 +0000 steveo 110736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Is that for real? :-o</em></p> <p>Time for some gorilla grinding? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110735 Thu, 16 May 2013 15:51:18 +0000 Arellcat 110735@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good heavens, Dave. Is that for real? :-o</p> <p><a href="http://goo.gl/maps/UsuXi">Westburn Middlefield</a> on Streetview</p> <p>@tammytroot, actually just fine, as long as they're regular tarmac bumps and not the yellow and black plastic ones that try to destroy your bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110734 Thu, 16 May 2013 15:28:34 +0000 Dave 110734@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bridge over the canal from the end of Westburn Middlefield / Middleknowe. Highly annoying as it means a lengthy detour with multiple traffic lights to the next bridge over. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110731 Thu, 16 May 2013 14:56:41 +0000 tammytroot 110731@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, that's the one.<br /> How does the velomobile cope with speedbumps? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110716 Thu, 16 May 2013 13:19:39 +0000 Arellcat 110716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>As the title implies-these affect wheelchair / scooter users, not just cyclists.</em></p> <p>A 2.8m long velomobile with a turning circle of more than 11 metres also finds a remarkable number of restrictions to off-road use, particularly in staggered barriers.</p> <p>This is possibly the same one as 'the mouth of the Esk': <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/vg4h5" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/maps/vg4h5</a> which would be a useful connection to avoid the inevitable car-based congestion of the high street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110701 Thu, 16 May 2013 12:41:12 +0000 neddie 110701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Path from Aldi to Slateford Green;<br /> Canal exit to Hermiston village </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10191#post-110699 Thu, 16 May 2013 12:37:02 +0000 tammytroot 110699@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is a follow on from the "slow down" thread;<br /> So far the list of problem chicanes is;<br /> Hope lane bridge over Harry Lauder Road,<br /> Innocent railway,<br /> St Mary's , Leith Links,<br /> H2EP, Broomhall/Ladywell<br /> End of Balgreen / Corstorphine path at Paddockholm.<br /> Bridge at the mouth of the Esk.</p> <p>Any more?<br /> As the title implies-these affect wheelchair/scooter users, not just cyclists.<br /> Who do we ask to rectify? </p>