http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cycle Campaigners Factfile en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 06:46:15 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-200924 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:17:13 +0000 Arellcat 200924@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Expensive <em>and</em> not particularly effective. I've cycled and walked up and down Exhibition Road and it feels, for the most part during working hours, like a road with lovely paving. At other times it's very quiet and yet people still default to footway/cycle lane vs carriageway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-200921 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:02:22 +0000 neddie 200921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik.</p> <p>You could add to your most excellent diagram the cost of Exhibition Rd in London* - a staggering £35k per metre (£29 million for 820 metres)</p> <p><a href="https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/lessons-from-exhibition-road/" rel="nofollow">https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/lessons-from-exhibition-road/</a></p> <p>*Although not Scotland! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199382 Sun, 20 Sep 2015 11:52:18 +0000 kaputnik 199382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/yz1kWC"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/661/21376928028_806479a97e.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/yz1kWC">Scottish Transport Infrastructure</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/">andy a</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199321 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 13:50:56 +0000 Colonies_Chris 199321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some figures about the risks to pedestrians from cyclists:<a href="http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_public/pedestrians4rrv2.pdf">Cycling and pedestrians - CTC</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199292 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 12:02:29 +0000 kaputnik 199292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>M74 extension cost £86,500 per metre. Forth replacement crossing, including ~4km of new motorway link roads is £226k per metre. A9 dualling is £26k per metre, A96 dualling slightly less at £22k.</p> <p>I'm trying to produce a diagram to compare and contrast all these and other Scottish transport infrastructure projects. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199272 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:55:52 +0000 gdm 199272@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If I remember correctly, the M74 had a cost of £1m <strong>per metre</strong>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199269 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:52:38 +0000 acsimpson 199269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't find the figures with a quick Google but I wonder what the cost of the new A90 path was. The figure of £1.5m sounds familiar for about 1.5 miles of path.</p> <p>I'm not sure if that was the council's contribution, the total cost or a made up figure though.</p> <p>I suspect the raised section with steel reinforcements cost more tha £1m per km. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199252 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:39:39 +0000 kaputnik 199252@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cost of the works to resurface Seafield railway path, provide access at Easter General, install street lighting, new bridge over Seafield Place and new step-free ramp from bridge to the Links was £1.1 million. Total length 690m = £1,594/m. Suspect most of the cost went into the bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199250 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:35:59 +0000 kaputnik 199250@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe a lot of lawyer's fees for drafting TROs? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199249 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:33:27 +0000 amir 199249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suspect that maintenance costs are far lower as well </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199248 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:31:46 +0000 SRD 199248@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Found a document referencing the Meadows to Innocent improvements were budgeted at £500k. "</p> <p>that rings a bell. suspect it includes 'everything' though. toucan crossings are ridiculously expensive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199245 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:27:05 +0000 kaputnik 199245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chancelot Path costs to resurface and add lighting were £105,000 on 750m of path (£133 a metre) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-199241 Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:23:03 +0000 kaputnik 199241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>cycle track: £116,500 – £933,000 per km<br /> segregated path: £116,500 £466,000 per km<br /> kerb segregated lane: £116,500 – £933,000 per km<br /> home zones / cycle streets £350,000 – £933,000 per km<br /> traffic calmed / managed streets £116,500 – £350,000 per km </em></p> <p>Found a document referencing the Meadows to Innocent improvements were budgeted at £500k. Given that it's a 500m total length, that's a nice round £1 million per km. Either something's not quite right or Edinburgh is exceptionally inefficient at building cycle paths! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-180377 Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:01:39 +0000 Cyclingmollie 180377@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.brake.org.uk/info-resources/info-research/road-safety-factsheets/15-facts-a-resources/facts/486-sleep-apnoea">Obstructive sleep apnoea</a> (OSA) is a condition that causes sufferers to briefly stop breathing while they are asleep. This interrupts sleep and causes excessive daytime sleepiness.<br /> <em>Professional drivers such as truck drivers are known to be at higher risk for sleep apnoea. Studies in the USA, Australia and Sweden have indicated that 12% to 17% of professional drivers may have OSA. Research has suggested that up to 41% of UK truck drivers have a sleep disorder of some form, with 16% suffering from severe sleep apnoea requiring immediate treatment.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-180376 Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:59:28 +0000 Cyclingmollie 180376@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-25593327">Almost half of male drivers admit to experiencing micro-sleeps at the wheel.</a><br /> <em>It's estimated that almost 20% of accidents on dull, major roads are sleep-related, according to the Department for Transport. </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-180374 Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:57:47 +0000 Cyclingmollie 180374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/drivers-at-fault-in-majority-of-cycling-accidents-28489/">Drivers at fault in majority of cycling accidents</a><br /> Naturalistic Cycling Study: Identifying risk factors for on-road commuter cyclists' by Marilyn Johnson, Judith Charlton, Jennifer Oxley and Stuart Newstead at Monash University Accident Research Centre in Melbourne (54th AAAM Annual Conference, Annals of Advances in Automotive Medicine, October 17-20, 2010) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-180369 Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:48:01 +0000 kaputnik 180369@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Q. How much does it cost to <u>design</u> a bit of dual carriageway?</p> <p>A. £1,000 a metre at current Scottish rates (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-31360743" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-31360743</a>)</p> <p><em>A £30m contract to design a 19 mile (30km) stretch of dual carriageway between Inverness and Nairn has been earmarked for Jacobs UK Ltd.</em></p> <p>That's just the design cost folks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142736 Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:34:12 +0000 sallyhinch 142736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does anyone have the link for spending per head on cycling for all European countries? I know the NL is about £25 and the UK is £1-2 but what about all the others in between? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142411 Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:07:07 +0000 fimm 142411@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/downloads/file/58/cycle_incident_analysis_2004-2010" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/downloads/file/58/cycle_incident_analysis_2004-2010</a></p> <p>Analysis of cycle incidents in Edinburgh 2004 - 2010. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142383 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:56:18 +0000 sallyhinch 142383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Edinburgh conference details <a href="http://unitedkingdom.nlembassy.org/doing-business/business-events/love-cycling-go-dutch/edinburgh---13-november.html">here</a></p> <p>Some good presentations at the <a href="http://newcycling.org/news/20131107/lcgd-presentations">Newcastle</a> one as well - I thoroughly recommend Phillipe Crist's on the Economic benefits of cycling </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142372 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:30:57 +0000 neddie 142372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also, does anyone have a link to the presentation given by the Dutch guys at the Cycling Summit last year? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142371 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:21:06 +0000 neddie 142371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Links to Designing Streets &amp; CAPS<br /> <a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/links/legislation-national-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/links/legislation-national-policy/</a></p> <p>Crow design manual for bicycle traffic &amp; loads more:<br /> <a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/links/technical-documents/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/links/technical-documents/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142368 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:48:05 +0000 sallyhinch 142368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some handy links</p> <p>Research <a href="http://www.cycling-embassy.org.uk/wiki/research-docs">wiki page</a> from the Cycling Embassy (this is where I add links to any open access papers and other useful documents)</p> <p>There is also the <a href="http://www.travelwest.info/evidence">Travel West evidence page</a> (compiled by Dr Adrian Davies, cited above). Loads and loads of one-pagers compiling the best available evidence for almost everything active-travel related </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142365 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:58:31 +0000 fimm 142365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://grist.org/list/one-mile-on-a-bike-is-a-42-economic-gain-to-society-one-mile-driving-is-a-20-loss/">One mile on a bike is a £0.26 economic gain to society, one mile driving is a £0.12 loss</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-142312 Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:48:24 +0000 kaputnik 142312@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In 2012...</p> <p>1% of private cars were Band A (i.e. pay no "Road tax")<br /> 3% were Band B i.e. pay £20 p.a.<br /> 6% were Band C i.e. pay £30 p.a.<br /> 0.7% were estimated to be evading altogether</p> <p>So 1 in 10 cars don't really "pay road tax", and Band B and C emit only 1-20g / CO2 / km less than Band D, so aren't really that "green" either. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-113012 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:17:35 +0000 kaputnik 113012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chdot shared this tweet on another thread;</p> <p>Adrian Davis (@Adrian4Davis)<br /> 04/06/2013 11:35<br /> Waste of space: A car at 50 km/h occupies 150 m2 of public space. At 30 km/h - 20 m2. A pedestrian 1 m2.</p> <p>See <a href="http://www.eltis.org/index.php?mainID=&amp;id=34&amp;forum_id=&amp;add_entry=153#entry153" rel="nofollow">http://www.eltis.org/index.php?mainID=&amp;id=34&amp;forum_id=&amp;add_entry=153#entry153</a> 4 maths</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-112994 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:17:54 +0000 sallyhinch 112994@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sustrans Connect 2 Cost guidelines <a href="http://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/images/files/migrated-pdfs/17%20costs%5B1%5D.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/images/files/migrated-pdfs/17%20costs%5B1%5D.pdf</a></p> <p>in summary: </p> <p>cycle track: £116,500 – £933,000 per km<br /> segregated path: £116,500 £466,000 per km<br /> kerb segregated lane: £116,500 – £933,000 per km<br /> home zones / cycle streets £350,000 – £933,000 per km<br /> traffic calmed / managed streets £116,500 – £350,000 per km </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10358#post-112953 Tue, 04 Jun 2013 13:27:36 +0000 kaputnik 112953@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The point in this thread is to save facts about cycling / cycle infrastructure so they can be easily accessed by anyone wanting to do a spot of campaigning / write a letter etc. Useful stuff about costs of infrastructure, journey statistics, that sort of thing.</p> <p>Just add your facts / data and a source for them below.</p> <p>I will kick us off;</p> <p><strong>Fact</strong> - <em> The estimated cost of providing a sign, pole, road and kerb markings adjacent to one dropped kerb would be approximately £150.</em></p> <p><strong>Source</strong> - Transport and Environment Committee, Date: Tuesday, 04 June 2013, <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/39385/item_7_12-dropped_kerb_access_in_edinburgh">Report 7.12</a> </p>