http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Residents fear gridlock if housing plans get go-ahead" en Fri, 22 May 2026 04:00:51 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-115216 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:19:36 +0000 kaputnik 115216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>sounds to me like Colin Keir wants the bypass extended as far as Maybury </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-115208 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:09:50 +0000 chdot 115208@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> The proposed local development plan says the junction capacity would be boosted to cope with extra traffic by “increasing the efficiency of the traffic signals”. </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/plan-for-2000-homes-at-maybury-threatens-gridlock-1-2971142" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/plan-for-2000-homes-at-maybury-threatens-gridlock-1-2971142</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114702 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:32:30 +0000 amir 114702@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line</em></p> <p>Isn't that the plan with Shawfair (substitute train for tram)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114701 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:16:13 +0000 wingpig 114701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not seen it on a weekday rush hour for a while but it can get quite tedious going Maybury-Road-to-Queensferry-Road across that junction at any point on a Sunday afternoon, irrespective of the time of year, which is why I use the bypass if I'm driving. I assume the weekday peak usage pattern is different to that seen at the weekend. I wonder if they have some sort of algorithm based on the housing size/price band/style to estimate a new development's vehicle flux and the potential effect on nearby choke points.</p> <p>Also OT, but related to a previous OT: one morning last week I was running late so took the most direct route all the way up Leith Walk. At about a quarter to nine between Duke St and Lorne St I had the road to myself. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114700 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:07:34 +0000 neddie 114700@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@fimm</p> <p><em>When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line</em></p> <p>I agree. I've long thought that councils should only allow out-of-town developments (e.g. Hermiston Gait, Straiton) to be built next to <strong>existing </strong>train stations (or tram stops) rather than next to existing road junctions.</p> <p>I'm sure the developers would then be 'happy' to add the (what they see as) necessary road infra to the development. Try getting them to add a railway line - it's a whole 'nother matter! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114695 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:30:13 +0000 PS 114695@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@fimm Similar story from Hong Kong - I remember seeing a new town being built in the New Territories. The very first structure to go up was the MTR (metro) station. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114694 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:28:14 +0000 PS 114694@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Really it's only rush hour where there are major problems there</em></p> <p>It's only rush hour where there are major problems anywhere in Edinburgh, as far as I can see [caveated with the comment that I tend to only see the city centre].</p> <p>OT, but I keep meaning to take a photo of George Street/St Andrew Square at the evening rush hour. Honestly, there are days when there are no vehicles (apart from parked cars) in sight at all, just people walking across the empty four lanes of tarmac. And yet civilisation as we know would come to an end if motor vehicle access were restricted... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114673 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:14:20 +0000 fimm 114673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I read the long article about Freiburg linked to from the Copenhaganise thread. When a new housing development was put in, they started the planning with a main street that has a new tram line running through it, and all the housing is within easy walking distance of the tram line... </p> <p>The whole article is worth reading. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114668 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:53:56 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 114668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>It strikes me the residents of Cammo are concerned that their cars will get stuck in jams created by 'others'. Thus ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room...</em>"</p> <p>Indeed. There's a quote in there as well that the traffic will get worse <em>especially</em> at rush hour. Really it's <em>only</em> rush hour where there are major problems there, which does hint at public transport and cycle solutions tot he daily commute really. But no, can't possibly expect the good residents to think outside the (metal) box. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114657 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:11:22 +0000 AKen 114657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Extending the tram line North from the depot to serve this new development would be relatively simple as it's green fields with only the railway line to be bridged. I'd add this as a comment on the Scotsman website but the meltdown of righteous indignation could bring the internet down with it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114642 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:27:46 +0000 crowriver 114642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It strikes me the residents of Cammo are concerned that <em>their</em> cars will get stuck in jams created by 'others'. Thus ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10472#post-114633 Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:30:47 +0000 chdot 114633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/residents-fear-gridlock-if-housing-plans-get-go-ahead-1-2968467" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/residents-fear-gridlock-if-housing-plans-get-go-ahead-1-2968467</a> </p>