http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Places that don't give bike access/parking instructions en Wed, 13 May 2026 05:34:09 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237526 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:58:30 +0000 gembo 237526@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah, plastic, I was talking metal </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237522 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 12:57:48 +0000 SRD 237522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>hmmm..now Gordon - at least for plastic. Spytfyre (formerly/occassionally of this parish) also a devotee. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237516 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:50:51 +0000 gembo 237516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Keith, also used to be Sean. Classes down broughton high and over at Holyrood too where he also runs the fencing club Salle which is pricey but you can go three times a week (this is going back a couple of years) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237515 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:42:45 +0000 SRD 237515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gordon? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237513 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:36:14 +0000 gembo 237513@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, Keith cook runs Fencing Fun, lovely chap </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237512 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:10:05 +0000 SRD 237512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fencing competition. Primary ages. Good fun. Nice range of kids. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237511 Sun, 27 Nov 2016 10:56:13 +0000 gembo 237511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@srd, was Keith Cook involved in the middle bit of the story (in the gym). We have been all over to go to his classes, juniper green, Holyrood, Currie. What age range was Napier class for? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-237505 Sat, 26 Nov 2016 22:12:42 +0000 SRD 237505@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure if this s the right thread or not. Had to go to Napier's Sighthill campus today, and realised there are no 'public' racks outside their gym/sport hall centre. However there are two secure lockups (one empty). But the good news is that security Volunteered to swipe me into the 'cage' and told us just to ask reception when we wanted out. Very handy to know. And very helpful folks. </p> <p>Also easy to get there from the canal, to my surprise. On the way gal, it was rather dark, but we were chummed along by an older gent, which was very pleasant. Had both my lights on 'see' rather than 'be seen' setting and they gave up before we got home tonight as a result. </p> <p>Canal was hard going in the dark - much leaf mulch covering the canalpath lights. Also annoying to find canalpath blocked at the new Boroughmuir on the weekend. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207674 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:27:48 +0000 acsimpson 207674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I agree that the prices seem a little steep compared to car charges even though the car charges don't guarantee a space. Given the massive subsidies which car drivers receive I would propose that any house without a car should have access to a secure bike space for every occupant free of charge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207664 Wed, 06 Jan 2016 02:08:45 +0000 Snowy 207664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think part of the intention was to reduce the incidence of bikes clogging up communal stairwells. However, I don't think the trial has been large enough to determine if that effect occurred.<br /> A friend who used one of the lockers said it reduced the amount he used his bike, since the locker was a couple hundred yards away. You need them placed at regular intervals.<br /> £60 is simply the opposite of the sweet spot for charging. Cheap bikes will continue to be dumped in stairwells and fastened to railings. Expensive bikes will continue to be kept inside flats. And given that cars with &lt;100g/km of CO2 are only £34/year for a permit outside the central zones, £60 is a bit steep when you can fit at least 4 of the secure bike boxes in the space one car occupies.<br /> There may be an argument for recovering the capital and installation costs. But then you get into a discussion about funding, policy and strategic purpose of parking charges, etc. IMHO on-street parking charges should be related to socioeconomic costs and benefits - reasonably secure parking should be encouraged/provided for vehicles which don't pollute, contribute to local economies, boost health and make our streets nicer to live in. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207645 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:59:23 +0000 ih 207645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I know that in the wider scheme of things, £60/year isn't huge, but it sends the wrong message and runs counter to policies encouraging wider uptake of cycling. The middle-class might take advantage of the facility, but it is another barrier to active travel for the less well off.</p> <p>As @Edd1e_h points out, considering the relative impact on society of cars and bikes, the bike-parking charge vis-à-vis the resident parking fee is to high. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207639 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:33:08 +0000 SRD 207639@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sheesh. I thought car parking just be pricier than that! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207638 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 14:21:19 +0000 neddie 207638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£5 mo./£60 pa. seems relatively expensive versus a car parking permit at around £110 pa. for a high polluting vehicle (&gt;180g/km CO2). Especially since a bike takes maybe 1/5 the space of a car.</p> <p>Anyway, on the other side of the coin, I suppose they have to charge a reasonable amount to prevent the bike parking from being blocked by abandoned bikes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207619 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:20:51 +0000 SRD 207619@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it had been planned to be more? £5 a month seems not unreasonable? I didn't realise that fees weren't being charged during the trial period. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207617 Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:11:04 +0000 Blueth 207617@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Inevitable I would think in these current straitened times. </p> <p>I don't say I agree with it nor that (not having seen an example) I think the provision <em>is</em> secure, but then how much would they charge for the provision of "secure" motor vehicle parking? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-207586 Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:33:38 +0000 ih 207586@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure if there's a better thread to discuss this, but I noticed on the Council website under Residential Bike Parking that when the trial for on-street bike parking is over, they expect to charge for the service.</p> <p>"It is expected that in the future there would be charge of around £5 per month for the use of the storage to cover management and maintenance costs."</p> <p>Any views anyone? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206582 Fri, 11 Dec 2015 07:55:18 +0000 gembo 206582@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Degree on sustainable cities? Must be largely theoretical? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206581 Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:40:08 +0000 Arellcat 206581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Banning folding bikes from inside the building is just crazy. Why?</em></p> <p>It would probably ruin the Wilton carpets. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206578 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:50:42 +0000 SRD 206578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Did I mention that they run a degree on 'sustainable cities'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206575 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:57:12 +0000 gembo 206575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unbridled unfolding and cycling about inside? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206573 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:52:30 +0000 SRD 206573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I guess I should have looked that up, but based on all the other London campuses I have visited, I expected some sort of parking. Banning folding bikes from inside the building is just crazy. Why? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206565 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:32:42 +0000 ih 206565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@srd This from KCL website under cycling facilities:</p> <p>"<br /> Strand Campus</p> <p>No bicycles are permitted to be brought into the building or chained to railings.<br /> Secure bike parking for students and staff is located on Strand Lane. From Embankment turn into Temple and just before the 'Walkabout' bar turn away from the river and up in to the alley on the back of the campus. 150 bike racks are available, and the facility is open 06.00 to 20.00. To register for access, take your College ID card and complete a form at the Security control room by the main gate. Showers are in the basement as you enter the main building through the bike racks.<br /> Weekend and evening bicycle parking after 20.00 is provided at the Strand entrance opposite Security. Please note that any bicycles left in this location after 08.30 Monday to Friday will be removed.<br /> Visitors who are cycling to the Strand campus can park bikes in Westminster council public bike racks. Information can be viewed on Westminster councils website.<br /> You can read more detail about Strand facilities."</p> <p>Does seem rather Draconian and inflexible, especially for visitors. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206563 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:27:45 +0000 chdot 206563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Racks certainly there last time I was at SH, in completely 'public area' - without minders. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206560 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:47:53 +0000 Arellcat 206560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Remarkably, according to OpenStreetMap it seems KCL indeed doesn't have any bike parking. Good call on making a fuss.</p> <p>There is apparently <a href="http://osm.org/go/euu4jMRWM--?layers=C&amp;m=">a bank of 30 stands</a> to the west though, near Somerset House, which is Government occupied and possibly a bit more clued up, but not necessarily any less officious! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-206559 Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:21:38 +0000 SRD 206559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Had to go to Kings College, London, on the Strand today with my folder - carrying heavy panniers needed for work there. No plausible bike parking visible anywhere on the strand. Nothing inside their quad. message saying there is staff and student parking somewhere and that visitors should see security. Security is inside and up some rickety stairs. security refuse to have anything to do with my bike. i then go back downstairs and in main door to take it up in the lift. As I head for the lift, security guy gets urgent call from security office, and refuses to let me in the lift - even folded. much argy-bargy as I cause a scene. eventually security boss says that he will make an exception for me - the one time only. </p> <p>have you ever heard of a university - much less one in central london - that has NO public bike parking at all? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-158386 Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:07:55 +0000 wingpig 158386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.midlothian.gov.uk/info/200142/vogrie_country_park/815/find_us">Vogrie Country Park</a> don't tell you at the main entrance that there are a couple of racks <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/JoDAZ">round the back of the house behind the café</a>, nor that you can <a href="http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/41388859/">ride down to it along the road</a> rather than getting off and pushing along one of the footpaths. Fortunately I was preceded by the people who went there in the car who texted me from the café to tell me about the bike racks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-150198 Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:23:48 +0000 Arellcat 150198@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm off to the Royal Highland Centre tomorrow for a work thing, and having rummaged around on their website - and the event's website - and given HankChief's prior experience I've concluded that they're not interested in anything without an engine and I'll use the motorbike.</p> <p>Shame really, as it's the Greenfleet exhibition and I was of a mind to arrive in the torpedo and blow their minds. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=4#post-143336 Sat, 22 Feb 2014 23:19:47 +0000 Tulyar 143336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I asked the Scottish Bike Show if they had considered a 'changing places' truck outside, with any other outside cycling stuff.</p> <p>Apparently there is no space outside - its all needed for (implied car?) parking. </p> <p>For venues in what is claimed to be a 'public transport' games I am just a bit disturbed by the high capacity connection to the new dual carriageway from the pretty large car park outside the velodrome, and the matching 500 or so car parking spaces in the middle of the roundabout (with a direct walkway link from the Hydro venue - whilst there is less than zilch by way of a walking route to the station at Finnieston (hardly deserves the name Exhibition Centre) less than 100m away .</p> <p>You think Auld Reekie is bad - well in the West we're sufficiently reekie to get black marks for air quality, and a huge daily dose of congestion and fumes, despite less than 35% of City households owning cars. </p> <p>Unusually though I find the new big Tesco in the old Littlewoods store actually smile at me when I take the Brompton in - aside from Inverness, Tesco's are one of the least bike friendly stores. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=3#post-143271 Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:01:05 +0000 chdot 143271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Has link to CycleStreets!</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghleisure.co.uk/venues/royal-commonwealth-pool/how-find-us" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghleisure.co.uk/venues/royal-commonwealth-pool/how-find-us</a></p> <p>Just needs to go a bit further and customise -</p> <p><a href="http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/to/55.93935,-3.17356/Royal+Commonwealth+Pool" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/to/55.93935,-3.17356/Royal+Commonwealth+Pool</a></p> <p>(And for all other venues.)</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12266">ThisISedinburgh</a> should too! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=3#post-143234 Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:24:52 +0000 SRD 143234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Commie Pool - and other EL centres - now have bike directions! (At the bottom of the page) </p>