http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Mandatory cycle lanes en Sun, 17 May 2026 12:17:53 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681&page=2#post-124522 Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:01:40 +0000 wingpig 124522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are a few racks at ground level around the side of the ECC in Conference Square. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124515 Wed, 11 Sep 2013 12:28:33 +0000 neddie 124515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think the WAR cycle lane is only there because in true UK-useless-cycle-infra-style the bike parking is in the semi-underground car park!</p> <p>So, instead of putting the bike parking directly outside the shops/businesses/places you want to go, they've hidden it somewhere to avoid cluttering up the place with 'ugly' bikes </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124489 Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:33:17 +0000 fimm 124489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik fair enough. I thought you had an issue with that particular cycle lane!</p> <p>(I think that the lane is probably resulting in more people cycling on the Western Approach Road. People see the lane and so start down there, and when it vanishes off the the left they think "that can't be right" and so go straight on. Cycle "infrastructure" that randomly appears and disappears is hardly unusual, after all.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124487 Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:12:13 +0000 wingpig 124487@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don't know, but might try it one lunchtime. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124481 Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:23:27 +0000 gembo 124481@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does it not come out the other end of the car park? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124446 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:46:58 +0000 kaputnik 124446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Why not?<br /> </em><br /> My personal opinion is that it takes more than a bit of paint on a 5-lane bit of otherwise vehicle-only road to magically turn it into an acceptable cycling facility. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124442 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:21:30 +0000 fimm 124442@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why not?<br /> Apart from the fact that it goes into a hotel car park. Who thought that it would be useful to have a cycle lane to a hotel car park? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124434 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:31:10 +0000 kaputnik 124434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've never gone so far as classing that as a "cycle lane". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124417 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:34:48 +0000 wingpig 124417@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/8747732308/" title="IMAG0848 by wingpig, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7311/8747732308_701e7f87e4_n.jpg" alt="IMAG0848" /></a></p> <p>I think there's a bit of one coming back the way now too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124407 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 22:36:49 +0000 kaputnik 124407@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a cycle lane on the W. Approach? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124397 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:35:16 +0000 neddie 124397@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>CEC are planning to make the cycle lane on the W. Approach Rd mandatory.</p> <p>I have no idea why. Perhaps so they can say they have <em>a</em> mandatory lane somewhere in the city, without upsetting the chipwrapper commenteers? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-124346 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 10:13:29 +0000 wingpig 124346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Keep forgetting to mention <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/EAHMP">this</a> actual solid-lined mandatory lane on Newcraighall road where it goes beneath the A1. There's another little bit approaching the same junction from the <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/ThtHf">other direction</a> too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117642 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 00:08:46 +0000 Focus 117642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ <strong>Morningsider</strong> and @ <strong>SRD</strong>,</p> <p>The photo is indeed "off-road". The cycle lane on-road approaches the roundabout at Queensferry Terrace and then allows/encourages you to bypass the roundabout queue by joining the pavement.</p> <p><a href="https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Queensferry+Terrace&amp;ll=55.954565,-3.230667&amp;spn=0.00082,0.001376&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hnear=Queensferry+Terrace&amp;t=h&amp;z=20&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=55.954647,-3.230552&amp;panoid=KlDCuG5y8R5aRS92B4_5mg&amp;cbp=12,283.61,,0,0">StreetView link</a>, looking westwards (i.e. leaving the city) from the roundabout. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117629 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 23:21:30 +0000 SRD 117629@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider - you may be right. i don't know that road at all. </p> <p>The contra-flow that leads to MMW - the one with bollards down the side - is also a solid line. </p> <p>so, is it now established that only mandatory lanes are the contrflow ones? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117574 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:50:42 +0000 Morningsider 117574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is that a mandatory cycle lane? I'm not sure it is, as the photo shows it isn't part of the carriageway (i.e. road). It looks more like a cycle track. The legal discrepancy that it is an offence to drive on a footway but not to park on it also applies to cycle tracks. I could be wrong though, as I haven't seen this in real life and only have one photo to go on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117561 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:28:41 +0000 chdot 117561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah!</p> <p>Yes that is an occasional hazard. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117560 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:26:57 +0000 cb 117560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I meant, driving in the wrong direction (i.e. in the direction of the contraflow)! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117558 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:53:41 +0000 chdot 117558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"on Canaan lane I have seen the occasional car driving down the cycle lane"</p> <p>The road is do narrow that that is inevitable in places when cars are parked (legally). </p> <p>But it works and shows there could be plenty more contra-flow cycle lanes if CEC could be bothered. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117556 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:40:24 +0000 cb 117556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The advice to roads authorities is that cycle contraflow lanes should be mandatory (although they don't have to be) for cyclist safety reasons."</p> <p>Although on Canaan lane I have seen the occasional car driving down the cycle lane (not always by mistake) and have also seen a cyclist cycling the wrong way down the lane. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117550 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:24:33 +0000 SRD 117550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's the pic of mandatory lane that @snowcycleuk posted</p> <p><a href="http://t.co/7i6rUZSxYd" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/7i6rUZSxYd</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117549 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:10:04 +0000 chdot 117549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From SRD's link -</p> <p>"</p> <p>So mandatory cycle lanes should generally keep motorists out, and if a motorist drives into the lane in normal traffic conditions, they’ve probably committed an offence. But this may depend on the details of local legislation.</p> <p>"</p> <p>Mmm, get really expect anyone to know if last bit is true! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117548 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:09:00 +0000 Morningsider 117548@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>SRD - The advice to roads authorities is that cycle contraflow lanes should be mandatory (although they don't have to be) for cyclist safety reasons.</p> <p>I've never seen a mandatory cycle lane on Queensferry Road, there is a bus lane long part of it I suppose. However, I'm not down that way very often and may have missed it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117546 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:57:47 +0000 Baldcyclist 117546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye, realised my mistook, and did an edit. Just like a bus lane, buses are allowed outside, but no-one else inside... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117545 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:54:43 +0000 SRD 117545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>more info here <a href="http://ukcyclerules.com/2011/03/10/do-cycle-lanes-have-any-legal-significance/" rel="nofollow">http://ukcyclerules.com/2011/03/10/do-cycle-lanes-have-any-legal-significance/</a></p> <p>and here from the Highway code</p> <p>140<br /> Cycle lanes. These are shown by road markings and signs. You MUST NOT drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a solid white line during its times of operation. Do not drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a broken white line unless it is unavoidable. You MUST NOT park in any cycle lane whilst waiting restrictions apply.<br /> Law RTRA sects 5 &amp; 8</p> <p>@baldcyclist - pretty sure that cyclists are not required to stay inside mandatory lane </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117543 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:53:50 +0000 crowriver 117543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Isn't the Canonmills contraflow lane also mandatory? I cycled along it the other day, and pretty sure it had an unbroken white line.</p> <p>EDIT: no, maybe not. However part of it is fully segregated... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117542 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:53:15 +0000 Dave 117542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also off road, the solid line only means you can't ride on the pedestrian side. It doesn't mean you have to ride on the bike side, since it's legal to ride on the grass.</p> <p>I too didn't think we had any mandatory cycle lanes, since that might create a situation which resulted in fewer drivers obstructing them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117541 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:51:26 +0000 SRD 117541@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@davec - the latter. the broken lined ones are 'advisory'. that's why cars can park on them, drive on them, queue on them etc. </p> <p>i don't have any illusions that mandatory cycle lanes would be enforced, but I thought we didn't have any. so curious to know if there are more around. and why. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117540 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:50:15 +0000 Baldcyclist 117540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Can you define Mandatory please? Are these something cyclists are prohibited from cycling outside, or something motorvehicles are prohibited from driving/parking within?</em></p> <p>Both.</p> <p>{EDIT yes, take that back, the latter!] </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117539 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:49:18 +0000 DaveC 117539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can you define Mandatory please? Are these something cyclists are prohibited from cycling outside, or something motorvehicles are prohibited from driving/parking within? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10681#post-117538 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:48:39 +0000 Baldcyclist 117538@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The new Meadows cycle lane is mandated by an unbroken white line, the other side is a pavement. </p>