http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Cycle use up 8% in 2012" en Tue, 19 May 2026 00:58:02 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119961 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:53:02 +0000 chdot 119961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"perceptions, based on the limited experience of small parts of the country can't undermine the accuracy of"</p> <p>I agree - especially when it comes to cycling in the UK. </p> <p>But there is definitely a noticeable increase in cyclists in 'inner Edinburgh'. Not enough to alter the overall stats probably, but an indication of some sort of change that it would be nice to think that someone is asking 'why'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119957 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:32:05 +0000 Instography 119957@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>With respect Smudge, perceptions, based on the limited experience of small parts of the country can't undermine the accuracy of many years worth of a large, well-designed and methodologically robust data collection exercise like the National Travel Survey.</p> <p>It reminds me of a conversation I once had with a doctor, when I was young, about the dangers of smoking. Querying his assertion that smoking was very damaging to people's health, I pointed out that I knew many people who had smoked for a long time and were apparently healthy. He replied, "so what?"</p> <p>And anyway, why would the National Centre for Social Research and the Office for National Statistics want to lie about the prevalence of cycling? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119940 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:49:54 +0000 Smudge 119940@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And yet as I travel around I see more adults on bicycles of all types than I can ever remember seeing in the past.. and yet a bit of internet and postering can muster a couple of thousand cyclists in the middle of Edinburgh, whilst still having loads bimbling around unaware..?<br /> Lies, damned lies and statistics?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119928 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:04:17 +0000 chdot 119928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Worryingly, the distance travelled by children continues to decrease.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/cam20130730-campaigning-news-British-Cycling-encouraged-by-National-Travel-Survey-Figures-0" rel="nofollow">http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/cam20130730-campaigning-news-British-Cycling-encouraged-by-National-Travel-Survey-Figures-0</a> </p> <p>Where's yr Olympic legacy noo? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119927 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:01:13 +0000 Instography 119927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sustrans has a more sober assessment.</p> <p><a href="http://www.sustrans.org.uk/press-releases/cycling-levels-static-deaths-rise" rel="nofollow">http://www.sustrans.org.uk/press-releases/cycling-levels-static-deaths-rise</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119926 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:59:47 +0000 chdot 119926@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I guess we've a little longer to wait for the boom. In the meantime, play nice."</p> <p>But it's coming, right?</p> <p>10% by 2020, yeah?</p> <p>If we're nice(r)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119923 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:51:10 +0000 Instography 119923@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not good at all when seen in context of the caveats about data quality.</p> <p>"Statistical Release - National Travel Survey 2012 - Page 7 of 25</p> <p>There is annual volatility in the cycling data (dark green line) because of the relatively small number of cyclists in the NTS sample. The volatility reflects the difficulty in measuring this relatively uncommon mode of transport. In 2012, only 2% of all trips were made by bicycle. There has been a small drop in the number of bicycle trips per person per year from 18 trips in 1995/97 to 16 trips in 2012. However, in terms of distance travelled, the average number of bicycle miles has increased by 23% from 43 miles in 1995/97 to 53 miles in 2012 – the highest level recorded over this time period. The decrease in the<br /> average number of bicycle trips and the corresponding<br /> increase in the average number of bicycle miles has resulted in the average bicycle trip length increasing from 2.3 miles in 1995/97 to 3.2 miles in 2012. The average distance travelled by bicycle by London residents has increased by 63% since 1995/97; nearly three times the national percentage increase."</p> <p>So, more or less the same people making more or less the same proportion of journeys but those journeys are getting a bit longer, disproportionately because of the increase in London.</p> <p>I guess we've a little longer to wait for the boom. In the meantime, play nice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119900 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:32:21 +0000 chdot 119900@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not good -</p> <p>"<br /> CTC (@CTC_Cyclists)<br /> 30/07/2013 11:47</p> <p>8% increase in cycling in 2012, but mostly amongst the richer, older men (MAMILs) </p> <p><a href="http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/cycle-use-8-in-2012-%E2%80%93-average-briton-travels-53-miles-year" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctc.org.uk/news/cycle-use-8-in-2012-%E2%80%93-average-briton-travels-53-miles-year</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10811#post-119886 Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:39:03 +0000 chdot 119886@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> CTC (@CTC_Cyclists)<br /> 30/07/2013 10:04<br /> Cycle use up 8% in 2012 (after 16% increase in 2011) according to latest National Travel Survey. More soon. </p> <p><a href="http://pic.twitter.com/m9keyLheDD" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/m9keyLheDD</a></p> <p>"<br /> "</p> <p>Shaun McDonald (@smsm1)<br /> 30/07/2013 11:30<br /> @CTC_Cyclists that it just the distance, not the number of trips. See @AsEasyAsRiding 's recent tweets</p> <p>"<br /> "<br /> Mark Strong (@ibikebrighton)<br /> 30/07/2013 11:32<br /> @smsm1 It might be the same number of cyclists making longer trips, or more cyclists. We need full data! @CTC_Cyclists @AsEasyAsRiding</p> <p>" </p>