http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: York Place reopens today(?) en Sun, 17 May 2026 12:17:19 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078&page=2#post-125468 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:58:11 +0000 AKen 125468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's going to look like a lighthouse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078&page=2#post-125464 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:17:38 +0000 kaputnik 125464@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Depends on what happens to Picardy Place roundabout and the whole mega-development next to it.<br /> </em></p> <p>I thought they want to build the replacement King James Thistle hotel <em>inside</em> (or on) the roundabout. My mind still can't compute how that would work. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078&page=2#post-125458 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:30:03 +0000 chdot 125458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The hatching is after the tramstop so surely it can't be to protect that?"</p> <p>OK - thought it was before! Think there's hatching there too. </p> <p>"I'll come back to the report/rumour (delete as appropriate) that the Council was waiting for the tram contractors to clear off the road before it put some cycle-specific markings down."</p> <p>Think first part is true, <em>hope</em> there are plans...</p> <p>"there was some mention in the Leith Walk plans of linking LW to the George Street infrastructure plans"</p> <p>Think that's still an 'aspiration' -</p> <p>Depends on what happens to Picardy Place roundabout and the whole mega-development next to it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078&page=2#post-125454 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:17:22 +0000 PS 125454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The hatching is after the tramstop so surely it can't be to protect that? </p> <p>I'll come back to the report/rumour (delete as appropriate) that the Council was waiting for the tram contractors to clear off the road before it put some cycle-specific markings down. There's clearly room (although bus stops may cause issues) and there was some mention in the Leith Walk plans of linking LW to the George Street infrastructure plans, so I hope that's true. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125452 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:05:59 +0000 Min 125452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There isn't enough space on York Place, it is too narrow.</p> <p>{/sarcasm]</p> <p>(although we all know that is the actual claim) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125450 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:03:43 +0000 crowriver 125450@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye. Looks like we'll be human traffic calming devices on York Place. Plus ça change... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125449 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:51:02 +0000 DaveC 125449@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Loads of room on York Place for cycles, but they obviously chose not to <strike>allow</strike> include it.</p> <p>I just amble up the inside, and looking at the photo, they could have placed a completely segregated cycle path:<br /> (<a href="http://goo.gl/maps/AYJKp">think Dutch examples</a> &lt;&lt; linky) </p> <p>... by shifting the traffic path to the right in the picture above and remodelling the dropped section of the path on the left. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125446 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:21:00 +0000 Min 125446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>and probably ram a cyclist if my experience of taxi drivers' awareness of approaching bikes when attempting a cheeky u-turn or similar manouevre is anything to go by... </em></p> <p>This is what worries me (not just taxi drivers). The old "its only a cyclist" manoeuvre. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125431 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:39:53 +0000 chdot 125431@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah the nostalgia look! (Sounds more like a software filter setting on your camera app). </p> <p>Embed - put URL of image (not link) in IMG tags (button above). </p> <p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2ir4ksg18b6clf/IMG_2567.JPG"><img src="https://photos-6.dropbox.com/t/0/AADN7RO0KW_5wpcAlIdMw3_LmOCvUSRWDefsJwO99-r-tw/12/109949/jpeg/1024x768/3/1379664000/0/2/IMG_2567.JPG/JLvCSdxi4M226DNGb03BIhzCVPG82xNrFiFl2HN70ic"></a></p> <p>Click for full pic (don't know why 'fit image size' no longer works on here. )</p> <p>I think the hatching is to 'protect' the tram stop. </p> <p>No room for bikes of course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125430 Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:45:47 +0000 rosscbrown 125430@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So I was looking at this road layout:</p> <p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2ir4ksg18b6clf/IMG_2567.JPG" rel="nofollow">https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2ir4ksg18b6clf/IMG_2567.JPG</a></p> <p>It looks like they've painted the cycle lane on the wrong side and forgotten to colour it in....</p> <p>(No idea how to embed this. Please excuse the 'photo filter', my telephone has a new firmware and I cannot work it yet.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125132 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:17:13 +0000 PS 125132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I am pretty sure it didn't used to be possible to do that? </em></p> <p>@Min As long as I can remember, there's been a "temporary" kerb separating the two lines of traffic on that section. Although I can't honestly remember whether that was put in for the tram works or if it had always been like that. </p> <p>Possibly the latter, for just the reason that our taxi-driving chum in the photo is demonstrating. He'll just spoil it all for the rest of us carrying on like that; and probably ram a cyclist if my experience of taxi drivers' awareness of approaching bikes when attempting a cheeky u-turn or similar manouevre is anything to go by... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125128 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:00:27 +0000 DaveC 125128@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have tried both: cycling on, to the roundabout and turning back, <em>and</em> dismounting and walking across. I suppose its around the same time to do both. Today I got near the top of Broughton and the lights went green for vehicles so I just slotted into the traffic and rode round. Occasionally I ride up Cathedral Lane also. </p> <p>Traffic just before 9am uaually backs down to/beyond Albany/Forth Street junctions. I'm not keen on cycling up the outside now they have removed the traffic light at the top of Broughton which was acting like a predestrian refuge island in the middle of the road. It was useful as it pushed trafic going down Broughton St over to the kerb side of the road, but now they tend to try as hard as possible to clip the white lines in the middle of the T junction! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125125 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:52:45 +0000 Min 125125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah okay. Another way to die on Edinburgh's roads.</p> <p>I am pretty sure it didn't used to be possible to do that? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125124 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:50:23 +0000 chdot 125124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Taxi which came up Broughton Street and just turned right (light traffic conditions). </p> <p>Don't know if there were No Right Turn signs in place on that day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125123 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:40:06 +0000 Min 125123@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What is that photo actually depicting? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125122 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:38:56 +0000 chdot 125122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"and went onto the roundabout befor returning to York Place"</p> <p>Really?!</p> <p>You didn't get off and try the pedestrian phases?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125121 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:33:14 +0000 DaveC 125121@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I rode up Broughton this morning and noticed the no turn right / no U turn signs and went onto the roundabout befor returning to York Place. I expect lots of this though as Taxi's never adhere to road regulations!</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9685664477/"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/9685664477_252a162c97.jpg"></a></p> <p>This above is supposed to be a copy of chdot's taxi pic from above, don't know why its not working. chdot to fix pls.</p> <p>ADMIN EDIT</p> <p>Done - needs image URL, not link URL. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125114 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:01:16 +0000 kaputnik 125114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I assume the first tram that makes it past Haymarket and onto the roads is going to require a cooncil employee walking in front ringing a bell and waving a red flag? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-125111 Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:55:31 +0000 Morningsider 125111@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Trams running the length of the route by December! Trams to Edinburgh Park next month. Full route open for commercial service by next May. Details:</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/1324/test_trams_to_york_place_by_december_2013" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/1324/test_trams_to_york_place_by_december_2013</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124428 Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:50:29 +0000 PS 124428@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By 6pm yesterday someone had moved that left-hand barrier a wee bit and a taxi driver blithely ignored both the "tram only" and "road closed" signs to go through the gap. Bloody taxis - always ignoring the rules of the road...</p> <p>In more positive news, by that time the white line removers and painters were just packing up having returned the Albany St/Dublin St junction to its former layout (ie, priority for Dublin St traffic). Didn't stop one fool driving straight across the junction without slowing down, but hopefully these drivers will learn in time.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124409 Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:12:23 +0000 chdot 124409@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9686115465/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/9686115465_f2af8de7d6.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/sets/72157635459590312/">More pix</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124279 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 20:09:46 +0000 PS 124279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In fact, was it here or somewhere else that I read that the council is waiting for the contractors to clear off before they put changes / some cycling markings down because it would be cheaper for them to do it that way? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124277 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 20:04:33 +0000 PS 124277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wandered past today and, TBH, it looked like an improvement on what was there before. Doesn't make it right, of course ;) It's surely temporary until they sort out the roundabouts and Leith Walk? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124240 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:07:19 +0000 cc 124240@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for the photos. It's early days, but so far it looks like a dog's breakfast. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124238 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 11:03:42 +0000 chdot 124238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This had just come from Broughton Street -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9685664477/"><img src="http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/9685664477_252a162c97.jpg"></a></p> <p>Might be legal, but presumably not what new layout planned for(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124236 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:46:24 +0000 chdot 124236@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The stop line for heading down Broughton Street looks a long way back"</p> <p>Yes. </p> <p>Quite odd really - and that cars stop at it. </p> <p><em>Maybe</em> there should be a long thin ASL box that cars wouldn't 'creep' into?!</p> <p>As it is, bikes that have to stop look a bit exposed (and probably illegal). </p> <p>The fact that cars stop where they do encourages pedestrians to cross. BUT it's green for vehicles to go along York Place... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124235 Sat, 07 Sep 2013 10:39:05 +0000 PS 124235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The stop line for heading down Broughton Street looks a long way back, which at least allows for a bit of unofficial ASL ing for cyclists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124192 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 22:23:28 +0000 chdot 124192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Had a look around 4:30. </p> <p>Took quite a lot of photos - will add more over w/e. </p> <p>All a bit unfinished. </p> <p>Most obvious thing is that pedestrians have been overlooked - well what they <em>really</em> do rather than 'supposed to do'...</p> <p>Similar issues at top of Dublin Street. </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9688916464/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7377/9688916464_69c7ec296d.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9688916464/">NO ASL box</a> </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9685682255/"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5459/9685682255_50f6be6930.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/9685682255/">New pedestrian desire line</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124157 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:27:38 +0000 gembo 124157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have been along it twice this week, second time it was open all the way, but very quiet in fact empty both times until about Hanover St, was nice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11078#post-124153 Fri, 06 Sep 2013 14:08:48 +0000 chdot 124153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Anybody nearby to take some piccies?"</p> <p>Planning to in a couple of hours. </p>