http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Stop Surrey being turned in to a cycle track” en Tue, 19 May 2026 00:27:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125610 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:39:39 +0000 allebong 125610@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Said article has now been <a href="www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2013/sep/22/cycling-daily-telegraph-lycra-louts">covered</a> in the Guardian with a generally much better reception.</p> <p>Edit: Upon reading the comments further, yes, road tax has made an appearance, along with pavement riding , RLJ etc etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125586 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:34:17 +0000 Charterhall 125586@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>At least the wedding party didn't seem to mind. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125584 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:09:16 +0000 gembo 125584@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Those people were not from Surrey,they were visiting cycling enthusiasts from london </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125582 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:46:33 +0000 Charterhall 125582@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Judging from the crowds out in Surrey yesterday I'm not sure which is the minority group in this case. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125574 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:12:48 +0000 gembo 125574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>You feel short changed at a Richard Thompson gig if out of his 1000s of songs he doesn't play it</p> <p>.... And he left her his Vincent to ride </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125568 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:52:53 +0000 neddie 125568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good to see hatred towards minority groups is alive and well &lt;/sarcasm&gt; </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125567 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:50:55 +0000 chdot 125567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye always popular with bikers -</p> <p>"</p> <p>And I've seen you at the corners and cafes it seems<br /> Red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme<br /> And he pulled her on behind<br /> And down to Box Hill, they did ride</p> <p>"<br /> <a href="http://m.metrolyrics.com/1952-vincent-black-lightning-lyrics-richard-thompson.html" rel="nofollow">http://m.metrolyrics.com/1952-vincent-black-lightning-lyrics-richard-thompson.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yw2yKNLEPc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yw2yKNLEPc</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125565 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:20:39 +0000 gembo 125565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@charterhall, the Surrey club cyclist chap quoted a lot of sense. They don't grouting large pelotons etc.</p> <p>They try to exist in harmony with the locals</p> <p>The story seems to have drifted from organised sportive e forcing the roads to close to cyclists out for weekend jaunts. The cafe at the top of box hill must make some cash from cyclists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125562 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:14:43 +0000 crowriver 125562@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"But these roads are dangerous, with 60mph speed limits and blind corners. I’m terrified there’s going to be an accident.”</p> <p>Ah, the old "dangerous roads" chestnut.</p> <p>"She had just run into some cyclists — three abreast — and had tried to overtake, but they wouldn’t move at all."</p> <p>Ah, the old "get out of my way" chestnut. Even little old ladies are at it!</p> <p>"We feel it is Londoners coming down, filling up our roads, with no benefit to us whatsoever.”</p> <p>Ah, the old "they baint from around 'ere" chestnut.</p> <p>"I am not allowed out of my front door. It’s a cul-de-sac. I can’t go anywhere by car,”</p> <p>Ah, the old "I have a right to drive anywhere, anytime I like" chestnut. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125559 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:12:41 +0000 Charterhall 125559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I feel sorry for the indigenous Surrey cyclists, they are on the receiving end of all this aggro thanks to hordes of cyclists from elsewhere and not least the promoters of commercial sportives. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125554 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:38:10 +0000 gibbo 125554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>Oh my, the comments on the torygraph are something else.</em></blockquote></p> <p>They certainly are. I find it quite scary that there are people driving around in cars who are constantly angry towards cyclists and see us as interlopers invading <strong>their</strong> roads. </p> <p>And to have a major newspaper brand all cyclists "lycra louts" feeds their anger and, surely, increases the likelihood that one of these nutters is responsible for killing or seriously injuring a cyclist. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125553 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:08:32 +0000 allebong 125553@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh my, the comments on the torygraph are something else. The usual twats who always moan about 'entitlement mentality' and they can't go one sentence without spewing forth about MY ROADS that I PAY FOR with MY ROAD TAX!!!!</p> <p>They all seem to have a debilitating lycra fetish as well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125552 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:47:22 +0000 gembo 125552@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I predict a riot</p> <p>Oh wait it is Surrey, telegraph country</p> <p>I predict an indignant person in brogues </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125546 Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:26:49 +0000 gibbo 125546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not content with just one article about this, the Telegraph writes another:</p> <p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/10323653/War-declared-on-the-Lycra-louts-on-wheels.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/10323653/War-declared-on-the-Lycra-louts-on-wheels.html</a></p> <p>Doesn't there come a point where this becomes incitement to violence? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125314 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:28:10 +0000 gembo 125314@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sportive s love going up Box Hill, it is quite easy and close to London. The other hill down that way Ditchling Beacon is it.? Comes at the end of the cycle to Brighton so seems a bit harder. There is also a London Cambridge route, not many hills. I did the London revolution which did not have closed roads, plenty decent cycling in east and north sectors but probably better west and south.</p> <p>Those selling sportive places will probably tend to focus for the reasons above (box hill icon, slightly nicer roads) on Surrey. Safer to sell where you have sold before, harder to break new ground to the north and east, the revolution not sold out. The glamping at Windsor race track was quiet, despite bands, fireworks etc</p> <p>The kids were out en masse in balerno last night watching them close the road for the resurfacing. The indignant guy should Learn to love the bomb as it were. (Dr strangelove) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125313 Thu, 19 Sep 2013 05:04:48 +0000 Charterhall 125313@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To be fair he does have a point. Since the Olympics there have been numerous sportives in the area, a day long road closure for the London Surrey Classic and this week they are getting another road closure from the ToB. Don't London cyclists and sportive organisers have anywhere else to ride ? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125280 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:06:28 +0000 gembo 125280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some people love being indignant</p> <p> Watch out for it in myself</p> <p>This forum can often come across that way, but in reality we are actually, hep cats, with a laconic attitude to life, lithe frames, keen intellects, good sense of humour etc </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125243 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:59:36 +0000 PS 125243@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And DaveC, it's "pedants" not "peddents". </p> <p>;o) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125242 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:58:03 +0000 PS 125242@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is the same guy who was complaining about the Surrey Classic, isn't it? I'm glad to see he hasn't expired on account of his raised blood pressure since then. </p> <p>Honestly, some people. He'd find his life would be much more enjoyable if he treated these sorts of things as a spectacle to enjoy (cf, the French, for whom a passing bike race is an excuse to picnic, drink, have fun by the side of the road) rather than something to take umbrage about. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125232 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:21:15 +0000 DaveC 125232@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hey never mind the article, read the comments. Heavily cyclist based, and some are even peddents, teaching the othe posters about good English! This will make my lunch time pass very quickly! :O) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125230 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:14:54 +0000 chdot 125230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"How can riders on a closed road event be breaking the law??"</p> <p>Think issue is probably <em>more</em> about 'club riders' 'training'. </p> <p>Some people just don't like bikes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125229 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:10:45 +0000 DaveC 125229@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Err?? Closed Road events?? Well if you swaned onto the London Marathon <strong>closed road</strong> event, and challenged them, I'm sure the runners would be rude abusive and ill mannered? How can riders on a closed road event be breaking the law?? I thought that was the idea of a closed road, NO? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125213 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:07:30 +0000 Uberuce 125213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Everyone, if you challenge them rudely and abusively enough. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125204 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:53:00 +0000 kaputnik 125204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>They are ill-mannered, they are rude, they abuse the laws of the road and are abusive when you challenge them</em></p> <p>Motorists, right? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11159#post-125202 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:32:29 +0000 gibbo 125202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the Independent:</p> <p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tour-de-surrey-residents-up-in-arms-about-road-closures-for-cycle-races-8822714.html">Tour de Surrey: Residents up in arms about road closures for cycle races</a></p> <p>"They are ill-mannered, they are rude, they abuse the laws of the road and are <strong>abusive when you challenge them</strong>."</p> <p>My question: why are you challenging them? On what basis do you have the right to challenge someone because they're using a public road? </p>