http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Scotland Census data en Fri, 22 May 2026 05:24:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126135 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:42:21 +0000 Instography 126135@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's odd practice to have the numbers rounded to the nearest thousands (although weird to then show the "difference" in the unrounded actuals rounded to the nearest thousand) but then to show the percentages to 1 decimal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126129 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:43:44 +0000 Kenny 126129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think that's just rounding, but I agree at first glance it's confusing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126125 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:22:46 +0000 crowriver 126125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm. I wonder how 'reliable' these figures are. Spot the 'deliberate' mistakes in this table: <a href="http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/documents/censusresults/release2a/rel2asbtable3.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/documents/censusresults/release2a/rel2asbtable3.pdf</a></p> <p>(Hint: Canada and Australia comparison between 2001 and 2011: number of increase - WTF?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126117 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:58:18 +0000 gembo 126117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Twice as many people in Scotland speak polish as Speak gaelic </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126107 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:15:41 +0000 Kenny 126107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data</em></p> <p>According to a colleague who used to work there, it appears to mainly be inefficiencies, to such an extent it makes other public bodies such as CEC look positively sprightly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126102 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:55:18 +0000 kaputnik 126102@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In which case I am a 3 car household, as I could easily phone up my parents, sister or brother-in-law and ask them to drive me somewhere. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126099 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:50:02 +0000 Instography 126099@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The exact question was, "In total, how many cars or vans are owned, or are available for use, by members of this household?</p> <p>Include any company car(s) or van(s) available<br /> for private use."</p> <p>Don't see any explanatory notes defining "available for use" but the implication is that they are available for the exclusive use (implied by "owned" and "private use") of the household rather than generally available for hire by the household. That would include many cars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126097 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:44:34 +0000 kaputnik 126097@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data?</em></p> <p>Relative efficiency (or otherwise) and/or priorities of different national statistics bodies.</p> <p>Scotland doesn't have a great record on open government data compared to England and Wales. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126094 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:26:17 +0000 fimm 126094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah, but what was the definition of "available for use"? My <em>recollection</em> is that it exculded things like city car clubs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126091 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:15:14 +0000 Morningsider 126091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>fimm - The question was:</p> <p>In total, how many car(s) or van(s) are owned, or availble for use, by members of this household? Include any company car(s) or van(s) if available for private use.</p> <p>Interesting to note that 50.8% of households in Glasgow (Scotland's largest local authority) had no access to a car in 2011. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126088 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:02:08 +0000 sallyhinch 126088@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like the question was about 'number of cars or vans in the household'.</p> <p>Any idea why Scotland is so slow releasing the census data? The figures for commuting to work have been out for England and Wales (and I think Northern Ireland) for ages, but still not due till November here </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126086 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:50:42 +0000 fimm 126086@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have some recollection that City Car Club didn't count - i.e. boyfriend &amp; I count as "no car" even though we're CCC members and perfectly (financially) capable of hiring a car for a week to go on holiday... does the link tell you exactly what the question was? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126077 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:15:28 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 126077@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Or member of the city car club... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126075 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:06:48 +0000 kaputnik 126075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Worth pointing out it's "access to" a car or van, not ownership of. So you can be down under "1 car or van" but not own it, but perhaps regularly use a family member's / partner's / work's car. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126074 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:02:58 +0000 crowriver 126074@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So, about 40% without a motor vehicle. That's a lot of people! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126069 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:31:30 +0000 SRD 126069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Even more interesting - as Ally Tibbett just pointed out to me on twitter Edinburgh's the "only Scottish LA area where household access to car or van has gone down between 2001 - 2011 " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11211#post-126067 Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:17:47 +0000 LaidBack 126067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Car or van availability - City of Edinburgh</p> <p>Households - 223k<br /> Households with no car or van - 89k<br /> Households with 1 car or van - 95.2k<br /> Households with 2 cars or vans - 32.6k<br /> Households with 3 cars or vans - 4.9k<br /> Households with 4 cars or vans - 1.3k</p> <p>Car and van total for City of Edinburgh - 180.9k</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/documents/censusresults/release2a/councilarea/KS404SC_CA.pdf">Car and van availability - National Records of Scotland 2011</a> </p>