http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Road fatality comparison en Sun, 17 May 2026 14:39:24 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131497 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:07:41 +0000 amir 131497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh and <a href="http://www.lovelljohns.com/blog/index.php/2012/07/06/obesity-in-europe-map/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lovelljohns.com/blog/index.php/2012/07/06/obesity-in-europe-map/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131496 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:06:58 +0000 amir 131496@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Obesity levels are much lower in NL</p> <p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2486892/Couch-potato-lifestyle-means-Britons-obese-Europe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2486892/Couch-potato-lifestyle-means-Britons-obese-Europe.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131495 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:57:52 +0000 Min 131495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>May be the old "fewer people safely wrapped inside their cars" thing? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131494 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:49:10 +0000 Baldcyclist 131494@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Do road fatalities per head of population really tell us much? fatalities per billion vehicle kilometres would be far more illuminating especially given that cycle modal share in Scotland is ~2% compared with +30% in the Netherlands.</em></p> <p>Don't know, but considering car journeys count for a tiny % of what they do here, it may tell us that drivers in NL kill more as a proportion of journeys than they do here.</p> <p>&lt; car journeys, &gt; people dead?</p> <p>It may not though... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131493 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:45:12 +0000 Kim 131493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do road fatalities per head of population really tell us much? fatalities per billion vehicle kilometres would be far more illuminating especially given that cycle modal share in Scotland is ~2% compared with +30% in the Netherlands.</p> <p>Oh and the <a href="http://newcycling.org/events/20130803/conference-love-cycling-go-dutch">Go Dutch conference is in Newcastle upon Tyne</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11551#post-131489 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:31:19 +0000 Baldcyclist 131489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some cycling conference being mentioned on Twitter #godutchconf or something.</p> <p>@KarlOnSea mentioned:<br /> since 2000, car fatalities in the NL have come down 50%. For cyclists its -50%</p> <p>I wondered how numbers compared with Scotland, and found:<br /> 640 fatalities in NL in 2010, 16M population. (<a href="http://www.swov.nl/rapport/Factsheets/UK/FS_Road_fatalities.pdf">data source</a>)<br /> 174 fatalities in Scotland in 2012, 6M population. (<a href="http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/News/Reported-Road-Casualties-Scotland-2012">Data Source</a>)</p> <p>In terms of fatalities alone regardless of mode of transport Scotland appears todo a little better? </p>