http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Good article by Jon Snow on BBC en Wed, 13 May 2026 03:07:10 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134124 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:39:03 +0000 kenny 134124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is there a similar no entry except ... sign for traffic coming from the west? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134089 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:27:41 +0000 gibbo 134089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>What, the one saying "except trams, buses, taxis and CYCLES"? That one?</em></blockquote></p> <p>Isn't that part of the problem? When is a no entry sign not a no entry sign?</p> <p>There's a reason why a no entry sign is red with a white bar across it, rather than just the words "no entry": they don't expect you to be able to read the words from a distance. </p> <p>The words of the "except trams... etc" sign are small. </p> <p>As cyclists, we're moving around on the saddle, rather than strapped to a seat.</p> <p>By the time we're able to read that sign - which assumes we're not looking at the road to avoid potholes etc - it can be too late to realise we need to adjust, to look over our shoulders to see if it's safe to change lanes etc.</p> <p>Maybe they need a different sign - one that graphically indicates whether we can cycle through it.</p> <p>PS Even the big no entry signs are being missed by drivers - the ones who drive through them because their sat navs say this is the correct route. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134084 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:21:57 +0000 Focus 134084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That would be it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134083 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:19:19 +0000 Min 134083@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What, the one saying "except trams, buses, taxis and CYCLES"? That one? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134081 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:15:58 +0000 Focus 134081@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the BBC article:</p> <p>Officers said one of the main issues they found was the numbers of drivers and <strong>cyclists</strong> failing to observe "no entry" signs, particularly in Shandwick Place.</p> <p>Would that be this sign from the Scotsman article on the same issue?</p> <p><img src="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/webimage/1.3195227.1384942685!/image/2334953316.jpg_gen/derivatives/articleImgDeriv_628px/2334953316.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134059 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:53:16 +0000 jdanielp 134059@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jon Snow's points were valid enough, but some of his cycling during the video didn't look all that safe...</p> <p>In relation to the Edinburgh article, I found a police car stopped half-way into the ASZ opposite the King's Theatre last night as I filtered into it. There was a car stopped beyond the ASZ too, waiting to turn right, so presumably the policeman didn't feel that bad about his position in comparison. Roll on pantomime season. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-134005 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:48:12 +0000 gkgk 134005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose a FOI request about the number of ASL fines (3 points or cash) would get a reply that they don't keep that stat. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-133989 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 12:10:44 +0000 EddieD 133989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The headline mainly.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-133973 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:43:17 +0000 chdot 133973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Which bit?</p> <p>"</p> <p>Jim Orr, Edinburgh City Council's vice convener for transport, said: "A lot of work goes into encouraging cyclists to use the centre of Edinburgh, and these areas at traffic lights can make drivers more aware that they need to keep some distance between them and bikes.</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-133968 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:32:12 +0000 EddieD 133968@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But I don't believe this for a minute</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25036132" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-25036132</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11697#post-133962 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:18:25 +0000 EddieD 133962@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25046751" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25046751</a> </p>