http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Road rage en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:10:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193&page=2#post-13522 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:08:20 +0000 recombodna 13522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had a similar experience when a white van driver punched me in the pus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13520 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:20:36 +0000 wee folding bike 13520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A few years ago I called Strathclyde Cops when a white van passenger skept me on the head. They came to see me, said there wasn't really much they could do but they did pay a visit to the van driver. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13512 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:11:45 +0000 druidh 13512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Go Pro Wide cameras have a fish-eye effect and you can get a bar-mount for them too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13510 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:40:29 +0000 SRD 13510@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One more thing to forget to take off the bike..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13509 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:36:51 +0000 kaputnik 13509@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm thinking on the bars, pointing slightly to the right, as I reckon most problems seem to occur (for me at least) by being badly overtaken. If an incident did happen, the bike or camera could quickly be pointe din the appropriate direction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13508 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:34:55 +0000 Min 13508@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well that is one of the problems, I don't really want one on my head (not least as, if I do fall and hit my head I may trash the camera) but I think you need one that looks where you are looking, otherwise it will miss stuff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13507 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:32:57 +0000 kaputnik 13507@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My parents offered to get me a swanky yellow saddle for my birthday. I'm thinking a cam might be a better investment now. That way I can look out for myself and any other cyclists who happen to be in my line of site.</p> <p>I wonder if you can get a fish-eye one that you can put on the bars instead of on your lid. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13506 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:32:24 +0000 Min 13506@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, I am also considering getting a camera though I really don't want to as I feel horrified at the fact that I am beginning to feel like I need to record every bike ride just to get some sort of protection for myself. :-( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13505 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:28:42 +0000 Min 13505@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes I totally agree. I will get back to my MSP about this as this is something the Scottish Governent should be doing something about. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13504 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:27:36 +0000 SRD 13504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I agree. Would be interesting to know what they would say if there was helmet-cam evidence. </p> <p>I think I'll have to get a camera once I'm back in the saddle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13503 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:25:57 +0000 kaputnik 13503@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> they have a policy of not investigating these things</em></p> <p>I think we need that in writing from L&amp;B Bobbies. Even if it reaches a stalemate and no prosecution is forthcoming, the very prospect of getting a visit from some of L&amp;Bs finest and having a jam sandwich parked outside your home or place of work sends a small but significant message and might make even a few drivers think twice the next time. It also sends them the message that "you were lucky this time, there were no witnesses, next time your luck might change".</p> <p>The current situation sends out a message to drivers that they can get away with anything and likely act with impunity as the police just aren't bothered. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-13502 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:17:57 +0000 Min 13502@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Update. I contacted my MSP Malcolm Chisholm (who was very quick to reply and take action) and was contacted eventually by the Police. The guy told me that indeed they have a policy of not investigating these things as what happens is when they go to talk to the driver, the driver then makes a counter claim and it all gets messy and so without witnessess they can't sort out what happened. I asked about CCTV and he said that the cameras at Picardy Place are almost always pointed at the front of the Omni centre but that I could have asked for it to be checked at the time just in case. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11051 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:52:11 +0000 Stepdoh 11051@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>well, Roman sandals are apparently fashionable for blokes at the moment, you could get a carbon fibre breastplate to keep the weight down, and we now know the skirt wearing leanings of at least a few board members. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11050 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:35:58 +0000 Min 11050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>LOL. I'm a bit disappointed though. I think some Ben Hur chariot attachments would look rather swish on a bike. Especially if you could get them in different colours. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11046 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:12:12 +0000 Stepdoh 11046@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>yep, the Scottish version. But n' Ben Hur. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11038 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:03:11 +0000 steveo 11038@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was thinking more D lock welded to the handle bars as a fairly sturdy bar end personally..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11037 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:03:09 +0000 Min 11037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Like the chariots in Ben Hur?</p> <p>"That's the problem, the only thing you can do is to issue an official complaint to the police complaints commission. Without knowing the details it's hard to guess whether that would be worthwhile. Alternatively if you've got the numberplate we can all keep a look out... &gt;:) "</p> <p>I think I will settle for writing to my MSP since digging around, it looks as if there are only two police forces in the UK who are interested such reports. I don't want to go down the road of publishing number plates! But if anyone has an altercation with a blue honda, PM me and we can see if it is the same driver.</p> <p>"Leaving unintentionally later - got into a bad habbit of an extra 'snooze' on the alarm that I need to break."</p> <p>In that case, I expect a big smile usual time, usual place on Tuesday (bus day Monday)or I will come round and kidnap your chickens. :-P </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11032 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:50:59 +0000 Stepdoh 11032@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So everyone can cycle very close with their front QR open. oops. Okay, I know that wouldn't really work with the whole handlebar/body in the way thing. But I kinda like the spiked wheel imagery of it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11031 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:31:25 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 11031@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Leaving unintentionally later - got into a bad habbit of an extra 'snooze' on the alarm that I need to break.</p> <p>That's the problem, the only thing you can do is to issue an official complaint to the police complaints commission. Without knowing the details it's hard to guess whether that would be worthwhile. Alternatively if you've got the numberplate we can all keep a look out... &gt;:) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11030 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:22:33 +0000 Min 11030@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>BUt if they just keep telling me they won't do anything, then what can I do? :-/</p> <p>"(for the first time in ages, I did wonder why she was running so late) that very morning on the Innocent."</p> <p>Are you leaving a bit later nowadays then? I was wondering how I had "lost" you! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-11025 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 09:24:30 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 11025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>First thing I can confirm is that Min was fine, as I saw her (for the first time in ages, I did wonder why she was running so late) that very morning on the Innocent.</p> <p>Secondly, this 'aint my legal area, but my other half is an ex-fiscal, and the official line is, "<em>Yip that is rubbish. There’s been an allegation of a crime so the cops should investigate. If in the interests of them cutting down work they have a policy to only deal with witnessed events the police should have disclosed this</em>." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10998 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:51:01 +0000 LaidBack 10998@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think that's right either. Police can give someone a warning without witnesses.</p> <p>Years ago I saw a car just blatantly drive though red lights at North Bridge. I reported his number to the police and they found that the car was not insured and took action. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10995 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:48:36 +0000 1lesscar 10995@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Whoever told you the police can not talk to the chap in the car without witnesses is talking complete rubbish. The basis of Scot's Law requires at least two competent witnesses speaking to an incident in a court. It does not need two witnesses for an officer to go and speak to someone. An ASBO warning only requires a single witness. (In the first instance at least). I would go back to the police station and ask that the chap in the car is spoken to. There are also a lot of very good CCTV cameras in the Picardy Place area. Most watch the traffic at that time in the morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10991 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:11:48 +0000 Min 10991@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>":( hope you are OK. I've yet to hear anything back from the Polis about my bus-driving wannabe assassin either. Funny how they managed to rustle together a body-armoured response unit to tackle those cycling terrorists causing slight delays in the meadows. "</p> <p>Hmm yes. Good point. I'm fine though, thanks.</p> <p>I went into a Police station and explained the situation, the woman was very sympathetic but said the same thing, they can't talk to him without witnesses. This doesn't seem right to me! Surely this is the case with everything? How many people have witnesses from the outset? Still, if that is what they say, there is not much I can do about it.</p> <p>So a word of warning to everyone, if something happens to you that you want to report, try to find someone who has witnessed it and is willing to corroborate your statement.</p> <p>Kaputnik, I hope you have better luck than me. You had witnessess didn't you? Hopefully that will make the difference. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10973 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:28:23 +0000 spytfyre 10973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min - get yourself a <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Veho-VCC-004-ATOM-Super-Micro-Camcorder/dp/B003BRD9QG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=electronics&amp;qid=1281011354&amp;sr=8-3">mini cam</a> to record such incidents...</p> <p>regarding the police - and the CM rider who was arrested: I got a letter back via the SNP saying that the matter has been referred to "the appropriate divisional commander" and I will hear more soon... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10972 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:27:17 +0000 kaputnik 10972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>:( hope you are OK. I've yet to hear anything back from the Polis about my bus-driving wannabe assassin either. Funny how they managed to rustle together a body-armoured response unit to tackle those cycling terrorists causing slight delays in the meadows. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10965 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:03:16 +0000 Min 10965@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes it was me. He got stopped at the next set of traffic light and as I approached he pulled the wheel round so he was close up aganist the barrier so I couldn't approach on his side to talk to him. </p> <p>That is the kind of man he was.</p> <p>I don't want to give details since the polis told me they couldn't talk to him without witnesses since it was only my word against his. Having given it some thought I think this is rubbish since if they don't even talk to him, they are not even going to get his word. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10954 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:51:14 +0000 Cyclingmollie 10954@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I hope you weren't the cyclist involved Min. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10952 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:44:27 +0000 Stepdoh 10952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>wha' happen? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1193#post-10950 Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:39:42 +0000 chdot 10950@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've put it on Twitter</p> <p><a href="http://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/20375534468" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/CyclingEdin/status/20375534468</a></p> <p>Must have been bad if <em>you</em> think it's worth mentioning - you've complained about different attitudes to different bikes in the past. </p>