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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Good person ≠ competent person</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>ARobComp on "Good person ≠ competent person"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://beyondthekerb.wordpress.com/2014/01/10/the-problem-with-good-people/&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://beyondthekerb.wordpress.com/2014/01/10/the-problem-with-good-people/&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;An interesting article about the way the courts differentiate between negligence and malice in cases where a good person causes a death (usually of a cyclist) through dangerous or careless cycling.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#34;Deborah Lumley-Holmes struck Julian Evans from behind while he “was cycling on a straight stretch of road on a dry, sunny day with clear visibility“, fatally injuring him. She was given a suspended sentence, was ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work, and was disqualified from driving for one year.&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#34;The first reaction to fatal incompetence should be to simply prevent that incompetence being an issue. Take killers off the roads. There is no moral judgment in this: it is purely a matter of a driver’s qualification and other road users’ safety.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Do that first. Then, if there’s a need to make a moral judgment on other aspects of a case – such as fleeing the scene or becoming enraged or exhibiting flagrant disregard for safety – then that becomes something that can be judged in a “normal” criminal context.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But a revocation of a licence is simply pragmatic and sanguine. A churchgoer who does not drive is no morally poorer than one who does.&#34;&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#34;Being a Good Person – whatever you consider to be the Good Acts that define them as such – does not make you a Competent Person. It does not make you a safe driver. It has absolutely nothing to do with it.&#34;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
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