http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Motorists and cyclists create army of walking wounded en Mon, 18 May 2026 11:42:40 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-141017 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:10:35 +0000 fimm 141017@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Another question: do we know in what proportion of cyclist-pedestrian collisions both the cyclist &amp; the pedestrian were hurt? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140963 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 16:09:41 +0000 amir 140963@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Misleading headline. The article states that 60% of pedestrians injured by cyclists were at fault, i.e. they caused the accident."</p> <p>So should the title be "Motorists, pedestrians and cyclists create army of walking wounded but it's the motorists that are creating an army of the (non-walking) dead"? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140960 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:58:43 +0000 KeepPedalling 140960@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd like to know how injuries involving pavement cyclists compare to the injuries caused by pedestrians bumping into pedestrians per distance travelled. Be they joggers or ipod zombies or whatever. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140958 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:40:36 +0000 fimm 140958@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled"</p> <p>No ****, Sherlock - being hit by a person on a bike is less bad for you than being hit by a car... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140954 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:23:02 +0000 KeepPedalling 140954@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also, I think most motorist's miles are on completely segregated infrastructure i.e. motorways. If only cyclists had that luxury... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140948 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:55:07 +0000 chdot 140948@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled"</p> <p>That's a useful stat! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140943 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:27:28 +0000 Morningsider 140943@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Misleading headline. The article states that 60% of pedestrians injured by cyclists were at fault, i.e. they caused the accident.</p> <p>At least cyclists aren't creating an army of the dead - being five times less likely to kill pedestrians than motorists for the distance travelled. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140941 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:02:26 +0000 amir 140941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's also the question of culpability. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140933 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:35:47 +0000 I were right about that saddle 140933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting, thanks. Demonstrates that any transport activity carries risks for more vulnerable people.</p> <p>However this;</p> <p>"One pedestrian was killed by a cyclist and 78 were seriously injured in 2012."</p> <p>certainly suggests that the figures are subject to huge uncertainty. One death a year just isn't enough to establish any trend. </p> <p>To be complete, the article would also have to cover reduced mortality from all causes amongst those who choose to cycle regularly. It may actually be that overall mortality <em>including</em> those killed by cyclists is lower than if no-one cycled. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12109#post-140930 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:01:03 +0000 Baldcyclist 140930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This article is creating a bit of a storm apparantly....</p> <p><a href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3986796.ece">http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3986796.ece</a></p> <p>"<br /> Cyclists are almost as likely as drivers to cause serious injury to pedestrians, analysis of official figures shows<br /> " </p>