http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cyclists stay back stickers en Sun, 31 May 2026 23:59:05 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-191811 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:58:52 +0000 algo 191811@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>well that's me told - I am sorry I assumed there hadn't been the same investment in the cameras etc... This is excellent if they are installing such monitors... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-191810 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:51:14 +0000 chdot 191810@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Sainsbury's (@sainsburys)<br /> 24/06/2015 20:46<br /> @CyclingEdin Thanks for the tweet! It's a work in progress. More details are on our corporate website - bit.ly/1oavfAA. Mark</p> <p>"</p> <p>"<br /> The vehicle – which will be unveiled by Mayor of London Boris Johnson at City Hall – features 360 degree monitors, extra side lighting for road users at night and low side guards for cyclist safety. It was designed in collaboration with Solomon and Mercedes.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://bit.ly/1oavfAA" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1oavfAA</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-191803 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:40:12 +0000 neddie 191803@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I object to the "Alert today, alive tomorrow" bit.</p> <p>Implies that cycling is deadly. Whereas driving of course is not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-191796 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:10:23 +0000 fimm 191796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I object to the warning there... that vehicle doesn't have the blind spots issue that those kind of signs are warning about (it isn't articulated). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-191781 Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:09:21 +0000 algo 191781@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They seem to be getting bigger… I don't object to the wording here, but this extra investment is not insignificant if Sainsbury's are doing this to all their lorries. I would like to see investment in helping the driver see the blind-spots and taking some of the burden of responsibility away from the cyclist.</p> <p><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3794/19123689645_faefc579be_z_d.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-182226 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:06:32 +0000 chdot 182226@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://rdrf.org.uk/2015/03/02/update-cyclists-stay-back-stickers-and-hgv-safety-in-london" rel="nofollow">http://rdrf.org.uk/2015/03/02/update-cyclists-stay-back-stickers-and-hgv-safety-in-london</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-181428 Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:22:11 +0000 chdot 181428@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://rdrf.org.uk/2015/02/20/cyclists-stay-back-stickers-the-saga-continues" rel="nofollow">http://rdrf.org.uk/2015/02/20/cyclists-stay-back-stickers-the-saga-continues</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-166488 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:31:57 +0000 chdot 166488@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/15361338165/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3916/15361338165_6cc9dd3cc7.jpg"></a></p> <p>Greggs </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-161468 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:22:52 +0000 chdot 161468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14832832711/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3867/14832832711_6f5e689c45.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158241 Sat, 28 Jun 2014 01:15:44 +0000 Tulyar 158241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Still reckon that Make Eye Contact is best safety message and we ban mirror shades, as well as tinted windows to maximise unimpaired direct view between bus/truck driver and all other road users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158238 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:05:44 +0000 recombodna 158238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's great. I was just thinking I wanted some stickers like this for the back of the luton van. Just ordered some A5 stickers :-) http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158227 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:54:32 +0000 Min 158227@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Those are totally ace. :-D</p> <p>It almost makes me wish I had a car so I could stick one on to it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158202 Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:31:16 +0000 SRD 158202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Well, we weren't expecting that. We printed 500 of the Stay awesome stickers because we thought it'd be a laugh. but we sold them all within about three hours, and the orders keep on coming. So we've printed a bunch more, and all orders should be fulfilled next week."</p> <p>"The business card ones crop down to 45mm width if you want to fit them on a (wide-ish) mudguard and they're FREE to whoever wants one"</p> <p><a href="http://road.cc/content/news/121962-awseome-stickers-update-they-sold-out-more-way-plus-get-free-ones" rel="nofollow">http://road.cc/content/news/121962-awseome-stickers-update-they-sold-out-more-way-plus-get-free-ones</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158150 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:03:26 +0000 chdot 158150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>yesterday RDRF and the other organisations involved, plus representatives of the London Boroughs Cycling Officers Group, attended a meeting at Transport for London chaired by Lilli Matson, Head of Strategy and Outcome Planning, with nine other TfL officers concerned with safety, freight and fleet operations, buses, taxis, and marketing and communications. We are glad to say that the outcome was very positive.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://rdrf.org.uk/2014/06/26/transport-for-london-sees-sense-at-last-over-cyclists-stay-back-stickers" rel="nofollow">http://rdrf.org.uk/2014/06/26/transport-for-london-sees-sense-at-last-over-cyclists-stay-back-stickers</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158140 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:33:19 +0000 SimonS 158140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a poor picture but Stagecoach in Fife now have these -</p> <p><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/E8377563-BBC7-4545-82FE-A96C95C9CCF7_zpsptjtitas.jpg"></p> <p>It's not easy to see but the graphic of the bus is showing the left indicator as flashing. </p> <p>Don't cycle up the left side if I'm indicating to turn left seems a fair message to me so I feel that this one sets the correct tone. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158134 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:41:22 +0000 adamthekiwi 158134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've just ordered a few of <a href="http://road.cc/content/news/121857-share-love-road-stay-awesome-sticker">these</a> - one will be going on the back of my car... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-158090 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 13:37:11 +0000 algo 158090@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>seems like Tfl have decided to take these off buses in london:</p> <p><a href="http://cycle.travel/city/london/news/cyclists_stay_back_stickers_get_the_boot" rel="nofollow">http://cycle.travel/city/london/news/cyclists_stay_back_stickers_get_the_boot</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156874 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 16:04:07 +0000 mgj 156874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, much better if they said "Overtake on the Right". The Guardian article is confusing; we've allowed the creation of gutter lanes on the left as the key means of promoting cycling, rather than accept that other than on steep hills, we can normally keep up with city traffic and certainly dont hold it up, so they perform no useful function other than to tell us our place is there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156828 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:39:15 +0000 neddie 156828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Would be good to make some 'Caution - crap driver' stickers and do some guerrilla sticker over-pasting...</p> <p>Perhaps Grant The Trams at the Copymaid shop could do some for us ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156806 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:22:29 +0000 Snowy 156806@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It would make a lot more sense if the 'stay back' stickers were replaced <em>en masse</em> with a design that said 'Caution - crap driver'. That's usually far more accurate! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156800 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:49:32 +0000 Try Cycle 156800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2014/jun/12/the-madness-of-stay-back-cyclist-stickers">The Madness of Stay Back stickers - Guardian</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156679 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:53:21 +0000 Greenroofer 156679@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I find the 'stay back', 'do not pass on the left' and 'beware this vehicle may be turning left' pretty offensive, and I don't think they should be allowed.</p> <p>However, I don't particularly object to 'beware of passing this vehicle on the inside', because that seems fair enough to me. I would certainly think very carefully before whizzing up the inside of this JCB (I've no idea what blind spots a JCB has) or of the concrete mixer on the previous page.</p> <p>The difference for me is that some are a 'be careful because even if I'm doing my best I still can't see you' message and some are a 'I may not be bothered to look so I've put up a sign that tries to make any collision your fault'. I'm happy with the former. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142&page=2#post-156674 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:19:40 +0000 chdot 156674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14376851146/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3923/14376851146_4363509ac9.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-156241 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 22:08:27 +0000 KarenJS 156241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well it's obvious who's to blame if there's an accident then... I find this quite scary, it's a disclaimer of responsibility. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-156236 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 21:06:45 +0000 chdot 156236@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tuesday -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14359023015/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3845/14359023015_e4a0b8bab3.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-156235 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:57:04 +0000 chdot 156235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just another morning in Edinburgh -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14172411048/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3881/14172411048_05ec814817.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14357502922/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3900/14357502922_9a0457d35e.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14172509950/"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3881/14172509950_db5b88c888.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-155677 Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:22:12 +0000 algo 155677@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="http://algorhythmical.co.uk/stayback.jpg"></p> <p>(grabbed from the twitter post mentioned above) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-155582 Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:22:33 +0000 acsimpson 155582@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A motorists stay back (home) one would be nice too.</p> <p>The most alarming one in the rdrf blog post is "Cyclists please be aware this vehicle may be turning left". Surely that's what indicators are for. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-155522 Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:15:28 +0000 algo 155522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a guy in London (I think) who's been making these parodies - </p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/Sueperb2/status/462174013583011840/photo/1" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/Sueperb2/status/462174013583011840/photo/1</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12142#post-155514 Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:49:30 +0000 KarenJS 155514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Motorists stay back appeals :-) </p>