http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Lothian Buses make £194k from keeping spare change" en Thu, 21 May 2026 15:47:12 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-261931 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 09:53:34 +0000 chdot 261931@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/former-lothian-buses-bosses-collected-1m-before-stepping-down-1-4572231" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/former-lothian-buses-bosses-collected-1m-before-stepping-down-1-4572231</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195716 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 01:11:30 +0000 Snowy 195716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I did get one once on a bus (because I'd got on the wrong bus), and it had to be handwritten out by the driver. It may be considered easier to take the hit than to incur the wrath of a bus full of passengers by delaying them several minutes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195693 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:20:25 +0000 cb 195693@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No similar clause on the <a href="https://edinburghtrams.com/information/conditions-of-carriage">Tram's conditions of carriage page.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195692 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:13:04 +0000 twq 195692@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dublin buses used to give out slips if you overpaid. You'd occasionally see big clear bins at universities to put them in, which student unions would gather up and donate to charity. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195691 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:01:40 +0000 acsimpson 195691@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is there a similar clause for the trams? Their on street machines don't seem to offer a request proof of overpayment option and instead force you to buy additional tickets which you don't then use. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195649 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:27:39 +0000 gdm 195649@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cb I wish I'd known about the repayments slip! The number of times I've had to overpay when I wasn't able to get the correct change from my wife's purse is ridiculous. Having said that, I'd then have needed to get another bus to the depot which would have set me/my wife back more.</p> <p>Just as well I'm on the bicycle... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195648 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:26:56 +0000 chdot 195648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"after 5 working days"?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-195645 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:10:22 +0000 cb 195645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/why-lothian-buses-no-change-policy-must-go-1-3854191">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/why-lothian-buses-no-change-policy-must-go-1-3854191</a></p> <p>"<br /> Not only is there a “no change” policy but also no evidence is provided of any excess paid and there is no refund system and no credit notes are issued that could be used to pay for future journeys.<br /> "</p> <p>Not strictly true (as stickman pointed out upthread) as the <a href="http://lothianbuses.com/conditions-of-carriage">conditions of carriage</a> state that "If a passenger is obliged to pay more than the required fare, an overpayment slip will be issued if requested. Such overpayments can be reclaimed at the Company’s Hanover Street Travelshop after 5 working days."</p> <p>(Has anyone ever tried that?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143604 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:12:07 +0000 crowriver 143604@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I remember when there were Routemaster type buses still operating, with conductors. You could hop on and off when the bus was stopped at lights.</p> <p>I also remember those 'pay on entry' buses too, with air vents in the roof on the top deck. They seemed all modern back in the early 1970s. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143602 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:59:31 +0000 chdot 143602@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_edin_t/0_edinburgh_transport_-_buses_termini.htm#26" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_edin_t/0_edinburgh_transport_-_buses_termini.htm#26</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_edin_t/0_edinburgh_transport_-_buses_termini.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_edin_t/0_edinburgh_transport_-_buses_termini.htm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143601 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:56:20 +0000 steveo 143601@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>To say I was disappointed would be an understatement. </em></p> <p>You obviously got on the wrong 26, it goes all the way to the beach! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143593 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:25:45 +0000 rosscbrown 143593@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also: I found myself at a careers fair today, where a nice man introduced himself as being from "Transport for Edinburgh, part of Lothian Buses". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143592 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 17:22:26 +0000 rosscbrown 143592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I first moved to Edinburgh a spent much time planning trips to the end of the bus line. I figured that there must be something really amazing to justify the bus going there.</p> <p>To say I was disappointed would be an understatement. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143581 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:06:17 +0000 AKen 143581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I was in Dublin, I was impressed by the frequent and numerous bus service going to the suburb of An Lar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143574 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:09:10 +0000 Stickman 143574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Little France is disappointingly short of patisseries and charcuterie. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143558 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:21:32 +0000 kaputnik 143558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"students who had come from strange far-away places"</p> <p></em><br /> Or tourists going to "Circle". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143557 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 12:09:20 +0000 Cyclingmollie 143557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"students who had come from strange far-away places"</em></p> <p>Likewise some of the bus destinations. What a disappointment Captain's Road turned out to be. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143542 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:11:00 +0000 kaputnik 143542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe Lothian Buses is still trying to recoup it's losses from 30 years of citizens staying on beyond their paid-for stage. After 30 years of keeping the extra change we should be about evens. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143540 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:01:56 +0000 Cyclingmollie 143540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"buy a 70p ticket for a few stops and try to stay on longer"</em></p> <p>My guess is that the passengers staying on beyond the number of stops they paid for more than cancel out the overpayment. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143537 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:57:30 +0000 wingpig 143537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>...and you made a prat of yourself asking for how much was a half to Pilrig."</em></blockquote></p> <p>When I first came here twenty years ago bus drivers seemed to delight in obtusely demanding "Where are you going?" or "How much?" depending on whether you'd stated how much you were putting in the dish or said where you were going. Perhaps it was just the drivers of the 42, 46 and 38 having funny japes with students who had come from strange far-away places without frequent and efficient bus services who had to try and learn the rules and customs by copying other people when getting onto the bus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143520 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:27:09 +0000 chdot 143520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="http://www.percyengine.com/images/bertie.gif"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143519 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:20:49 +0000 gembo 143519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Those buses have happy faces </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143513 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 01:01:03 +0000 kaputnik 143513@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgeupstairs/5804011538/"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3085/5804011538_b62e383919.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgeupstairs/5804011538/">The foot of Leith Walk</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/georgeupstairs/">georgeupstairs</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>When they had a mix of driver-only and driver/conductor buses, they needed an illuminated sign on the new buses to tell you the approaching bus was one of the new-fangled ones. This was 1968.</p> <p>It later changed to two large stylised coins dropping into a stylised hopper on each side of the front destination blind;<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgeupstairs/4426375577/"><img src="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/4426375577_ab606e12f4.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgeupstairs/4426375577/">George Street</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/georgeupstairs/">georgeupstairs</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>I remember in my yoof in the early 1990s when they went from staged to flat fare the "Exact fare ready please" used to be on a yellow vinyl across the width of the front windscreen and also had the price, so no excuses when the bus turned up and you made a prat of yourself asking for how much was a half to Pilrig. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143508 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:25:29 +0000 wee folding bike 143508@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On a recent Bromptonite ride in Glasgow we had a look at some doocots in Yoker. There is one in Bothwell castle but that was for the kitchen. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143507 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 23:24:43 +0000 Min 143507@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lol, I was visualising a man greasing a pigeon too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143503 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:54:45 +0000 gembo 143503@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes drunken Duncan started with DUFC, then rangers, where he met ally mccoist took up doo fleeing, named one doo after ally using his nickname Coisty. Also played for Newcastle but is loved by Everton fans for his vigour. A tall and fearless striker not blessed with. Much brain.</p> <p>You meant hairdo, I see now, not pigeons </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143499 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:29:52 +0000 wee folding bike 143499@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's a football reference isn't it?</p> <p>As well as no ring, no hair here either. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143493 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:46:39 +0000 gembo 143493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tarting up his doo?</p> <p>What, giving his one pigeon a shampoo and set? Was you friend drunken Duncan ferguson and was the doo called Coisty? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277&page=2#post-143492 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 21:25:25 +0000 wee folding bike 143492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A friend paid his bus fare with his wedding ring once. He had been tarting up his doo and put his ring in his back pocket while applying some oily product. The exact change for the bus was in the same pocket. When he got on the bus he pulled out the contents of the pocket and watched his treasured ring go into the hopper.</p> <p>First Bus brought it back to his work the following day and he appeared in a number of trashy papers as a human interest story. </p> <p>I don't have a wedding ring so no worries there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12277#post-143490 Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:41:28 +0000 gembo 143490@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>£1.50 to go from Edinburgh to Pencaitland is very good value.</p> <p>Back in the olden days you could buy a 70p ticket for a few stops and try to stay on longer</p> <p>Dublin buses still had conductors possibly into the 1990s?</p> <p> Love it when someone waits until they get on the bus to fish around in bag for wallet then faff around getting the money right. It should be in your hand as you get on the bus. :-)</p> <p>I tried an emoticon there and my story of a RAOK from me to an Italian prof trying to pay a boorish driver with a tenner was deleted. I shan't go into the details but one day I am sure I will be paid back. (£1.20 was fare from town to heriot watt, heck I wasn't even getting on the dude's bus the driver was just being somewhat unfriendly, bordering on xenophobia I thought, but I won't bore you with the minutiae </p>