http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Just been rear-ended en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:57:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145573 Fri, 14 Mar 2014 23:26:23 +0000 fimm 145573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well the driver spotted me as I was wheeling the Brompton away from Haymarket this evening - I have to assume that that is where she was headed. She called out to me - I hadn't noticed her. So I was able to explain about the break to the rack which I don't think either of us properly understood when we were both shaken. And I could reassure her that that was the only damage. It was good of her to speak to me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145451 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:02:54 +0000 wee folding bike 145451@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think they had stripey mudguards 7 years ago. I've got a 7 and a half yr old S6L with the solid silver couloured mudguards. My 5 yr old S2L-X has stripes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145419 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:49:19 +0000 steveo 145419@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>(and surely losing your no-claims discount wouldn't cost you that much?). </em></p> <p>Back of an envelope calculations suggest my NCD is worth £600-£800 over 5 years so it would be a close one for me in that situation wether to pony up or just leave to my insurance. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145417 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:32:21 +0000 fimm 145417@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is quite an old bike (well 6 or 7 years I think) and the rack didn't come with it - I was given the rack by the friends who got me into Bromptons in the first place - that rack came off an old B that died. The black thing on the right is an attachment for a light to run off a hub dynamo - which I don't have.</p> <p>It is just as well the bike wasn't badly damamged as I've no idea how you'd work out the value of an old Brompton and a new one would set you back £1000 (and surely losing your no-claims discount wouldn't cost you that much?). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145409 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:13:33 +0000 MeepMeep 145409@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sorry to read this thread, fimm.</p> <p><em>"When I had a slow-speed head-on on the recumbent I just passed the bike straight over to my handy repair shop and got them to do everything."</em></p> <p>That's exactly the tact I took when I had my incident. I told them if there was <strong>any</strong> sign of damage, no matter how minor or minimal, I wanted repair/replacement quoted for. The driver's insurance company ended up paying for the lesser of two evils which was a new bike. Saying that though, it helped that my bike was less than 6 weeks old at the time of the incident so they could make a clear comparison against new. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145405 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 14:47:11 +0000 Darkerside 145405@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Glad you've escaped with easily fixable/recoverable damage...</p> <p>When I had a slow-speed head-on on the recumbent I just passed the bike straight over to my handy repair shop and got them to do everything. Received quote; emailed scan to driver saying 'are you happy with this?'; and their email back served as a written record of them agreeing to the cost/liability.</p> <p>Dunno if that's of any use! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145390 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:01:19 +0000 steveo 145390@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A new bromtom would still (potentially) be cheaper than losing her no claims discount. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145389 Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:52:06 +0000 fimm 145389@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, I checked the price... I didn't tell the driver that but I did warn her that Bromptons come expensive!</p> <p>Thank you all for all the support/good wishes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145338 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:25:37 +0000 gembo 145338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good that driver knows they were in the wrong and hope driver is aware of Brompton prices </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145337 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:16:49 +0000 wee folding bike 145337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Has your back rack not got a drilling for light brackets on the right hand side?</p> <p>Including the mudguard you're looking at £97 for parts alone.</p> <p><a href="http://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-carrier-bits/305-brompton-rear-carrier-set-5053099039012.html" rel="nofollow">http://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-carrier-bits/305-brompton-rear-carrier-set-5053099039012.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145330 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:21:20 +0000 LaidBack 145330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good to keep driver informed. Hope you and bike get sorted quickly! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145318 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:41:44 +0000 Arellcat 145318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's good, fimm. Your Brompton rack, which is now missing an essential roller, will be surprisingly expensive to replace with a brand new one. Fingers crossed the rear pivot hasn't been affected in the process. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145315 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:35:22 +0000 fimm 145315@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Reported to the police. I'm incident number 293...<br /> Also had a quick chat with the driver (partly because I thought it was polite to let her know that I was going to report it to the police) and she still seems happy to pay for the damage. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145248 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:05:17 +0000 fimm 145248@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, if I was going to be stroppy about it (for example, the driver had driven off/tried to blame me/claimed that my furry hat made me invisible) then I would definitely be making an issue of the sore bum. As it is, I'm just going to go for the "please Mr Policeman, record this on your stats" angle, especially as I didn't say I was hurt at the time.</p> <p>I can't get a reply from her phone (it is definitely the right number, she rang my phone from hers). I get a message about calling "customer services" so I assume it is a work phone! I was going to let her know that I was going to report to the police, but I think I'll just go ahead and do it.</p> <p>I'm going to go to BikeTrax on Saturday &amp; see what they say. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145236 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:12:57 +0000 chdot 145236@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And I'm not talking 'pride'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145235 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:12:11 +0000 chdot 145235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"you're required to report any accidents where there is contact/impact rather than 'injury' "</p> <p>Don't think that's right - think <em>every</em> car/car scrape. </p> <p>But bitten in the bum by externally activated saddle sounds like "injury" to me! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145233 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:05:35 +0000 SRD 145233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@fimm@smudge someone will correct me (this IS cce) but wasn't it posted recently that you're required to report any accidents where there is contact/impact rather than 'injury'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145230 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:03:09 +0000 chdot 145230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I've failed to work out how to make a link to the roundabout in question on Google maps."</p> <p>Yeah Google seems to lack some degree of consistency. </p> <p>If you're using a smartphone use the app rather than a browser. </p> <p>Hold screen until a pin appears. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145229 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:54:25 +0000 fimm 145229@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Smudge I believe that there's only an obligation to report an accident to the police if someone (or certain animals) is hurt.</p> <p>OK, I've failed to work out how to make a link to the roundabout in question on Google maps. Anyway, I go that way every time I take the Brompton, so 4 or 5 times a week. It is quite a big roundabout, with several exits, but I'm taking the first left. So I'd drifted towards the kerb so that there was space for two lanes of traffic to my right. I rolled up to the line and stopped as there was a car coming, and was then hit from behind - I think the front left bumper of the car hit the right hand end of the rear rack (recall, it is a Brompton, the rack is low to the ground). There was a good scratch on the car there.</p> <p>As Sallyhinch says, the fold acted as a "crumple zone". I have a slightly sore spot on my @rse which fits perfectly with having been hit by the nose of the saddle. </p> <p>I know exactly where the driver was looking - to her right to look for traffic on the roundabout. I wonder if I had been slightly obscured from her by the car in front of her (which had overtaken me). It was about 5:40, still daylight (in fact, there was a good strong sun which had been causing me problems as I looked behind me, i.e. the sun was behind us).</p> <p>Infrastructure? Well, cars and bikes and roundabouts don't mix - ask the Dutch... and while there are ways to get from my office to the station using off-road routes, they are indirect and muddy in places; the road is direct and convenient. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145214 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:12:57 +0000 Smudge 145214@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sorry to hear that and hope you continue to feel fine! Def, def def report it first thing tomorrow morning! Dunno if you have any legal obligation to, but the car driver does and their insurance may take the view that you don't care enough/can be fobbed off. Also, many car drivers think all bikes cost less tha £100, the cost of even a minor repair to a brompton may come as a fright and elicit all sorts of denial and prevarication. Finally, can't see the pic on this ancient phone, but the Brommie rack is pretty solid, if it's been hit hard enough to break I'd be quite concerned about the risk of unseen damage to the rear wheel or subframe, and there's no way you should be paying that when the guilty party has the much vaunted (by trolls lol) car drivers insurance!!<br /> Good luck and stay safe anyway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145213 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:06:41 +0000 sallyhinch 145213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Eeps too. Was demonstrating the Brompton at the weekend and a couple of people asked whether it was safe having the back wheel folding spontaneously like that (I don't have the catch, and it has 'sat down' occasionally under emergency braking conditions) - never thought of it as a crumple zone though!</p> <p>The nice thing about the Brompton is the very low frame so there's much less to get tangled up in if you do get a knock.</p> <p>Hope there's no significant damage beyond the rack. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145212 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:56:11 +0000 wingpig 145212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Eeps. Assuming you'll be handing it in somewhere to get the rack replaced so get them to check it and have them cc the rear-ender into the results of their inspection and issue of invoice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145210 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:50:30 +0000 condor2378 145210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Glad to see you're OK, if you're going to be hit<br /> this seems to be the way to do it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145209 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 23:46:29 +0000 fimm 145209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's the damage:<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/f_m_m/13092950354/" title="Snapped Brompton rack by f_m_m, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7431/13092950354_cca09e273f.jpg" alt="Snapped Brompton rack" /></a><br /> (Looks as though you'll have to click on the photo to see it!)</p> <p>I think I wasn't actually sitting on the bike when it was hit - I think I had a foot on the ground and was poised to move off. The bike ended up on the ground and of course the rear wheel folded under and I think that folding process absorbed a lot of the impact. One bum cheek was a bit sore for a while, saddle impact I assume, but I didn't hit the ground with anything other than my feet.</p> <p>Yes, SMIDSY. Infrastructure "just" that roundabouts are a Bad Thing... no bike-specific infra involved.</p> <p>Will post properly in the morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145200 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:29:31 +0000 Dave 145200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you don't report it, it didn't happen - for national stats, for the maps of road incidents or for the driver's insurance company. All of which are top quality reasons to file the paperwork (however soul destroying it may be).</p> <p>Personally, I'm also not sure I'd bother. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145191 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:21:44 +0000 Morningsider 145191@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would suggest you report it and thoroughly check your bike for damage - may even be worth popping into a shop to ask them to give it a look over, as if the impact was enough to damage the rack it could have damaged other parts.</p> <p>Anyway, hope you are okay. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145190 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 21:16:20 +0000 SRD 145190@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I take it you came off? Hope you're still feeling okay later tonight/ tomorrow.</p> <p>Take it easy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145176 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:05:43 +0000 chdot 145176@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"should I, for stats?"</p> <p>Probably. </p> <p>Any 'infrastructure inadequacies' or pure SMIDSY? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12378#post-145174 Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:59:11 +0000 fimm 145174@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rear-ended at a roundabout. Nice lady looking for cars had not noticed me. I'm ok, Brompton is mostly ok apart from piece snapped off rack. We exchanged phone numbers. Posting to make myself tell someone. Not planning to report it, should I, for stats? </p>