http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: When is a road dangerous? en Mon, 18 May 2026 20:13:56 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147627 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 13:18:08 +0000 I were right about that saddle 147627@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"It's a lot harder for them to do themselves harm under their own 1/4hp leg-and-lung engine"</p> <p>I frankly wouldn't let anyone lose on a powered two-wheeler until they've put in a couple of years on an unpowered two-wheeler. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147621 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 12:58:40 +0000 fimm 147621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Idiot.<br /> And it is the road that is dangerous, not the driver? If he'd been in a car he'd have kiiled the people in the car coming the other way, as well as himself. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147598 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:49:29 +0000 kaputnik 147598@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are some people who are idiots, be they on 2 wheels or 4, powered or pedalled. Unforunately give them access to a 1,000CC machine that weighs a few hundred kilogrammes and is very fast and maneouvrable and this acts as a "force multiplier" to their idiocy. It's a lot harder for them to do themselves harm under their own 1/4hp leg-and-lung engine. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147581 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:55:07 +0000 I were right about that saddle 147581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mmmmh. Inter-biker solidarity prevents me from using the word 'knob' in any context other than the front door I'm sure he was releived to be able to open when he got home. The Cat and Fiddle is notorious as a good place to either die or get arrested. </p> <p>Motorcycles are for grown-ups, and anyone who rides one without having ingested, digested and acted on this;</p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-Roadcraft-Police-Handbook-Motorcycling/dp/011341143X" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorcycle-Roadcraft-Police-Handbook-Motorcycling/dp/011341143X</a></p> <p>is asking for trouble. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147578 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:23:41 +0000 kaputnik 147578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unless there are pits with spikes on it, or a 100 foot drop on either side with no crash barriers, roads in themselves are not "dangerous" in themselves. It's the way people use them which is.</p> <p>Cycle paths on the other hand, littered with lane-centre obstructions in camouflage grey and black, right-angle bends, dubious lines of sight, unprotected merging with fast-moving traffic, sub-standard crossings. Now <em>they</em> are dangerous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147574 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:46:48 +0000 acsimpson 147574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I've only watched it with the sound down. I take it the reporter spends the duration of the interview asking the guy why he is such a total idiot, followed by some pointing and laughing?"</p> <p>The idiot in question makes a comment about having learnt his lesson. He doesn't say what the lesson is but I suspect it's something along the lines of don't film yourself being an idiot if you want your insurance to pay out. He might soon add don't publicise your idiocy if you don't want 6 points on your licence for dangerous driving. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147572 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:27:18 +0000 PS 147572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Insto Also known as "organ donors".</p> <p>Dangerous road, that, what with the yellow-backgrounded zig-zag warning signs on both sides of the road, continual unbroken "no-overtaking" white lines up the middle of the carriageway, followed by two large painted "SLOW" warnings on the tarmac and the chevron barriers indicating a sharp left turn. Something should be done.</p> <p>I've only watched it with the sound down. I take it the reporter spends the duration of the interview asking the guy why he is such a total idiot, followed by some pointing and laughing? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147571 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:22:38 +0000 acsimpson 147571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I enjoyed the commentary stating "Perfect conditions for safe biking" while He is on the wrong side of solid white centre lines.</p> <p>I'm not a motor biker but it's painfully obvious his line into the corner is wrong too. I suspect he was so busy looking at his speedo he didn't see the bend coming. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147569 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 09:16:08 +0000 zesty 147569@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When is a road dangerous?.... when you have idiots like that on the road!</p> <p>Clip starts off with him over taking another motorbike on double unbroken white lines, pretty sure thats against the law and then he goes to fast round the bend.</p> <p>Pretty sure the motorbike he passed made the corner no problem. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147567 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:47:02 +0000 steveo 147567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To paraphrase; what if we make the road safer for everyone even if it doesn't help certain problem users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147556 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 00:12:03 +0000 Instography 147556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The police / road safety folk have a name for the problem - born again bikers. (mostly) Blokes in the crisis years trying to recapture their youth but now with the money to do a direct access course and skip straight over the 250cc of their teens and go for something with a bit more oomph. And then it's knee down round those rural bends and off into a field (or a wall or a tree).</p> <p>Of course you can say that the people are the problem but if your job is to reduce casualties you can categorise the people and start the long, largely hopeless, job of changing them or you can categorise the road and start the process to change that instead. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147542 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:45:54 +0000 neddie 147542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It doesn't really help road safety when they show videos of people 'getting away with it' only by good fortune. Only adds to the feeling of invincibility.</p> <p>What they should instead show is a video of the police officers having to clear up the carnage in the majority of cases where they 'don't get away with it'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147540 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:43:59 +0000 steveo 147540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've always wondered if motorcycles are as inherently dangerous as their statics would suggest or if there is an element of self selection in the sample group. Do people who are attracted to doing "dangerous" things pick up high powered bikes, do something dangerous and add to the statistics. I realise that a motorcycles speed and adds an element to the familiar vulnerability on the road "we" all know. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147539 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:33:53 +0000 gembo 147539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Funnily enough I was looking at that. The road has been made less dangerous over years by 50 mph speed limit and average speed cameras.</p> <p>Think the boy motorbiker accelerated too quickly then misjudged the corner. Incredible that he survived unscathed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12501#post-147535 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 19:21:05 +0000 Focus 147535@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A clear case of misdiagnosing the problem:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26848603">(Motor)Biker's eye view of danger road</a></p> <p>It's not the <em>road</em> that's dangerous though, is it? </p>