http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Roseburn Path 'improvements' en Mon, 18 May 2026 11:09:26 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-182559 Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:01:29 +0000 chdot 182559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>John MacInnes (@mcdoggydog)<br /> 06/03/2015 09:35<br /> @north_team @CyclingEdin I trust this is a temporary repair until the contractors reset the blocks? </p> <p><a href="http://pic.twitter.com/cmoLR33GFe" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/cmoLR33GFe</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-181741 Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:38:02 +0000 chdot 181741@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>North Team (@north_team)<br /> 24/02/2015 14:36<br /> @CyclingEdin Contractors have been asked to get the faulty blocks re-set, thanks for letting us know, EL</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-181280 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:00:08 +0000 chdot 181280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nine months later -</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/r6HivS"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/16473560192_e2809c1fe0.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/q9MBTY"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7380/15851995194_8171fa50cf.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157853 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:29:27 +0000 zesty 157853@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rode over the surface this morning in the wet and it was fine, had plenty of grip. Didnt notice any of the surface being washed away. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157847 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:17:00 +0000 threefromleith 157847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Due to forgetting to change the alarm clock last night, I overslept &amp; ended up not riding in today. Anyone want to report on how the new 'non-slip' surface was in the wet this morning (and whether the excess 'sand' has been swept off or washed away)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157672 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:16:13 +0000 TIFFER 157672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back from holiday and cycled this way this morning and the biege slipperypaint has now been replaced with a new surface...hopefully of the non-slipper variety.</p> <p>I wrote to Nigel Bagshaw, one of the local councillors and he replied saying the following ..<br /> <blockquote>I have asked the principal officer in charge of cycling to look into the matter and informed the North Office who are responsible for maintenance of the path and will let you know what action has been taken when I have a reply.</blockquote></p> <p>I will post his reply when I get it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157304 Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:58:49 +0000 DaveC 157304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Click on link below to follow wingpigs link back here, and end up in an ever decreasing spiral of recusiveness.....</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11382&amp;page=7&amp;replies=189#post-157303" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11382&amp;page=7&amp;replies=189#post-157303</a></p> <p>;o) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157280 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:43:45 +0000 Focus 157280@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Left: new, right: old.<img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n187/reggiedunlop77/Cycling/vlcsnap-2014-06-18-23h31m32s97.jpg"></p> <p>Near: old, far: new.<img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n187/reggiedunlop77/Cycling/vlcsnap-2014-06-18-23h34m19s36.jpg"></p> <p>It's finally starting to look how I imagined they were going to do it in the first place, even if I still doubt it's necessary. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157273 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:44:48 +0000 threefromleith 157273@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It didn't half have an overpowering chemical reek! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157269 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:15:59 +0000 cc 157269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The slippypaint was about half covered with anti-slip sand-like surface this evening. I imagine they'll finish the job tomorrow. Looks like the same surface they put down at the junction of Middle Meadow Walk and North Meadow Walk. Sensible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663&page=2#post-157260 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:40:39 +0000 chdot 157260@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well it will dry/set fast today...</p> <p>Too fast?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-157259 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:35:52 +0000 wingpig 157259@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They were gluing buff-coloured sand to the special custom buff-coloured slippypaint when I went past... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-157233 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:38:38 +0000 DaveC 157233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they discovered that this surface is more slippery than the tarmac, then they should remove it before installing another scheme which has been tested, like tar and sand on top! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-157219 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 13:34:09 +0000 threefromleith 157219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I guess the planned implementation date of Tues 17th has slipped - nothing going on yesterday or this morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-157094 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:18:25 +0000 tk 157094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think that may have been the experiment....</p> <p>One thing that annoys me is these changes don't get a sign warning of them on approach. A change of road surface or layout would usually be marked up well in advance for drivers so why should new cycle path features be any different? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-157085 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:37:42 +0000 Focus 157085@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ <em>threefromleith</em></p> <p>My interpretation is that they tested the slippery nature of the <em>older</em> version of the 'anti-skid' surface, <em>after</em> the issue was made clear to them. It doesn't explain why an experimental surface was laid <em>before</em> such tests were carried out, considering that was it's primary purpose. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156847 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 13:35:49 +0000 threefromleith 156847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surely if tarmac has more friction than the 'anti-skid' surface, then the safest, cheapest &amp; best solution would be to leave the path as unadorned tarmac?</p> <p>Imagine if they start colouring this stuff green and using it for all of the city's bus-lanes? *shiver* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156802 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 10:08:38 +0000 TIFFER 156802@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In my case there was no pea gravel involved, it was just the wet surface turning towards Roseburn having come from Maidencraig Crescent.</p> <p>It is a downward slope but before the "improvements" I managed it fine for 6 years.</p> <p>I have now had a reply from the council (see below) but I have also contacted CycleLaw.</p> <p>(You can ignore the 16th April date in the letter as that is incorrect...doh)</p> <p>Hopefully, the new high-friction anti-skid surface with be more anti-skid than the existing one.</p> <p>I won't be testing it though and now go on the gravel at the side of the path to turn the corner.</p> <p>"QUOTE"<br /> Thank you for your email of 16 April 2014 with your comments on the above works. I am sorry to hear that you were involved in a fall at the junction and hope that any injuries received were not serious.<br /> A new cold-applied coloured surfacing product is being trialled at Craigleith which has installation benefits as well as an extended design life. This product has been used successfully in other cities such as London in both cycleway and on-road situations and has anti-skid properties. Reports of poor skid resistance in wet conditions at Craigleith are being treating with importance.<br /> Following tests on the new surface it was noted that the friction is less than that of the surrounding tarmac path which can lead to issues with skidding. In light of these results, we are working with the manufacturer who has agreed to install a new high-friction anti-skid surface in place of the current area. The planned date for this installation is Tuesday 17 June.<br /> I hope that you find our response helpful.<br /> Paul Matthews<br /> "QUOTE" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156528 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:02:22 +0000 tk 156528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>See <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12964#post-156525" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12964#post-156525</a> for the email I had from the council about the surface </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156504 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:02:40 +0000 Duncan 156504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In my son's case it was just the wet surface - he was above the 'pea gravel' zone, turning left into Maidencraig Cresc having come from Roseburn. Sounds like the same bit of the path (on a slight slope) that unseated 'Tiffer' earlier today. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156497 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:32:11 +0000 threefromleith 156497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was it just the slippery paint, or did the abundance of pea-gravel (now liberally spread across the junction in all directions) add to the loss of traction?</p> <p>Hope you get some joy from the council. Heal soon! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156491 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:40:29 +0000 Dave 156491@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Please consider making a claim against the council.</p> <p>I'd be really surprised to learn that this surface has been applied in accordance with regulations and it shouldn't be too much bother for you.</p> <p>If you're uncomfortable accepting compensation you can always donate it to a charity of your choice, but we clearly need better incentives for these schemes to be implemented correctly (and inspected properly). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-156486 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:19:35 +0000 TIFFER 156486@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All,<br /> Just like to add my comment on this.</p> <p>I use the junction every day as it is part of my route to work.</p> <p>Did notice the "improvements" and the new biege painted section and though "I bet that is slippery in the wet".</p> <p>Well this morning this was proven to be the case as my front wheel slid from under me and I have been left with road rash down one side, a skinned elbow and a ripped cycle jacket.</p> <p>I turn onto the cycle path from Maidencraig and head right towards Roseburn.</p> <p>It could have been worse but there was nobody else there at the time and I was wearing a helmet.</p> <p>Thanks to the two other cyclists who stopped and asked if I was okay.</p> <p>@Duncan<br /> Did you ever get any response from the council or take the matter any further ?</p> <p>I have sent an email to Paul Matthews at Edinburgh Council but I have yet to get a reply.</p> <p>The email included pictures of my injuries (which I will not post here just in case someone is having their lunch).</p> <p>All I can say is watch out if you are on this "anti-slip" area ad it is anything but.</p> <p>Stay safe<br /> tiffer </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-153383 Tue, 13 May 2014 16:32:45 +0000 DaveC 153383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We could throw a bag of cement over it. With Edinburgh's weather it should he hard in 12 hours. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-153378 Tue, 13 May 2014 16:19:39 +0000 kaputnik 153378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I will see what we can do about it.</em></p> <p>A proper lip to the kerb to stop it sliding onto the path would be a start.</p> <p>alternatively covering the drainage ballast in wire mesh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-153368 Tue, 13 May 2014 15:27:32 +0000 chdot 153368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>CEC says</p> <p>"<br /> The pea gravel is covering larger stones for the drainage. We use the gravel because at previous site the stones have been used as ammunition for attacking lights/windows.</p> <p>I will see what we can do about it.</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-153330 Tue, 13 May 2014 13:13:26 +0000 threefromleith 153330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Discovered one of the sources of the carpet of gravel stones on the path last Friday - group of highschool kids picking up great handfuls of it and chucking it all about / at each other / at me after I'd gone past them.</p> <p>I still can't understand the logic of the council / designers thinking putting large areas of loose stones on bits of a cyclepath, especially where people will be braking / turning and liable (like the OPs son) to come a cropper.</p> <p>Oh, wait - it's the council... I understand perfectly! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-153321 Tue, 13 May 2014 12:38:12 +0000 Dave 153321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Really not good for cycling just now - there's a ton of pea gravel across the path which made my turn for the office unexpectedly exciting.</p> <p>Quite glad there was nobody else on the path as I certainly didn't have the spare capacity to worry about anyone besides myself after I realised what was about to happen.</p> <p>What my headcam sees:</p> <p><a href="http://cdn.mccraw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/path.png"><img src="http://cdn.mccraw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/path.png"></a></p> <p>What my mind is really seeing:</p> <p><a href="http://cdn.mccraw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/path2.jpg"><img src="http://cdn.mccraw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/path2.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-150860 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 21:30:24 +0000 chdot 150860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any response from CEC? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12663#post-150859 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 21:28:35 +0000 Duncan 150859@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks, folks, for your sympathy/ support. My son has bounced back and is fine. What concerns me more (as an almost daily user of this junction) is how I could have missed any consultation notices. As someone said, the rejig looks like it has been designed as a response to pedestrian fears - not evidence. And speed bumps on a cycle track make me want to cry... I'm lucky if I manage 15mph with the wind behind me! </p>