http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Calling cycling families - want to show off your bikes? PLUS buy/sell en Mon, 20 Apr 2026 08:20:12 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-193624 Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:10:51 +0000 weezee 193624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Smudge, I was victorious in an online bidding war yesterday on a FollowMe. I'll have to buy separate nuts to attach it to my hub geared bike, but I'll let you know how I get on when we're up and running. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-193244 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:00:03 +0000 chdot 193244@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Update on trailers in use -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15074" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15074</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191220 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:19:47 +0000 Smudge 191220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Drat, wish I'd noticed this before! Anyone had any experience of the "follow me tandem"? Mini Smudge is about to get an Islabike Cnoc 14 and I like the idea of being able to easily connect/disconnect... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191215 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:36:44 +0000 algo 191215@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This was a great event, but I'm really sorry not to have been able to stay for the whole time. I managed to show a few folk the Chariot, but it seems I missed quite a few curious families. I am very happy to demonstrate it at any point to anyone or lend it out to anyone who is interested. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191040 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:29:50 +0000 chrisfl 191040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So we had a great time, showing our bikes and seats.</p> <p>We were also looking at future options, having had a testride of the Helios I think that I've convinced Mrs F - and I think that LaidBack may be getting a visit from us in another year or so...</p> <p>Our current setup is the Yepp Mini front seat and the Yepp Maxi rear seat attached toy our Cortina Roots Transport and a Riddgeback.</p> <p>I take both children to the childminder with these seats, and they work really well. I've not found that they get in the way of pedalling. </p> <p>In general seats are a great way of getting children onto bikes for a relatively small amount of money.</p> <p>Yepp Mini:</p> <p>Quick to add or remove from the bike. Officially used from 9 months to 3 years (but actually we've been usijng in from 6 months (9-15kg) - But the baby needs to be able to sit up well. </p> <p>Position wise I've found that the Yepp Mini doesn't get in the way of my knees and sits out the way. I've discovered that the front postition has the advantage of making it really easy to communicate with and talk to children in the front. But they are really exposed to the weather, this can be mitigated with a windscreen addon. But this doesn't move between bikes easily.</p> <p>The rear seat can either fit onto a rack using a special rack adapter or onto the stem. The Yepp rear seat is rather from 9 - 22 kg (9 months till 6 years). As others have said, the rear is feels very detached, but otherwise is a good options. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191039 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:22:16 +0000 weezee 191039@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just to share our experience, we've had the Urban Arrow electric-assist for 18 months now and it would probably be the best 'quality-of-life' decision we've made for our family. We first got the idea from the family who owns the Bakfiets, and like us, have twins. The problem with twins is that they are the same size and can't be staggered onto seats and tag-alongs. We knew that once we got into doing the school run and other activities we'd be spending a lot of time on buses or on foot ferrying them about. At some point we would have been considering car ownership.</p> <p><u>Pros</u><br /> (These are only a selection)<br /> Can seat two children side-by-side (or three with extra bench) up to 7/8 years old comfortably. Probably even older than that if they face each other with extra bench.<br /> Can fit full shop and children at the same time.<br /> The electric assist means hill-starts, getting off promptly from lights etc. are easy. It also means that as my fitness fluctuates, or even if I'm having an 'under the weather' day, I can still ride it and just pump up the power if necessary.<br /> <u>Cons</u><br /> Not cheap (but our argument was not to price it as you would a bike but as an alternative to running a car for a couple of years - not even including purchase price)<br /> Storage - it's long and heavy. Lifting up any kind of steps is not really doable. Manoeuvrability in tight spaces is limited. We got bike insurance which, in the small print, required 'indoor, locked to fixed point' storage but when we spoke to them, outdoor to a fixed point and under motorbike cover was sufficient. We've not had any great difficulty finding parking space around town, just may need to walk a little further to get to a cycle rack where we don't block the pavement.<br /> Once in motion, it's a very steady ride (apart from a few, ahem, foolhardy incidents on ice before we got studded tyres), but controlling on slopes/corners it while walking can be tricky. I believe the newer model's battery has walk-assist mode which should help. I've only ever misjudged walking it while mounting a pavement or a turn twice and in the tumble the children have bounced their helmets together and remained otherwise unscathed.<br /> Although it's not that much wider than a wide-handled bike, the box and the length makes filtering through traffic not really possible. Corners also need to be taken at a wider angle but it is usually just a matter of getting used to it.<br /> Locking it up takes a while.<br /> Also, lots of people talk to you (that would be a con if you don't like that). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191038 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:14:31 +0000 Greenroofer 191038@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surely if the demoers are doing their job properly they won't need helmets because they won't be riding bikes...</p> <p>(although given that a large part of the [very enjoyable] morning seemed to involve people who already had very good child carrying solutions playing on other people's child carrying solutions, I can see that my logic is open to challenge). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191037 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:09:59 +0000 sallyhinch 191037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@greenroofer - I did think about hats, but some people will want to wear helmets making hats impractical (actually there are remarkably few helmets on the adults in that flickr set but some of the demoers did come with them). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=6#post-191036 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:42:42 +0000 HankChief 191036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@greenroofer - I might have been than the mudguard on my towing bike didn't go far enough down to protect the passenger. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191035 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:40:43 +0000 Greenroofer 191035@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I just remembered another con of the EBC tagalong: the mudguard is quite short, so if you go anywhere muddy the stoker gets mud up their back. I've never had the problems HankChief reports with mud on the stoker's front: this might be because my tagalong still has the plastic crud catcher thing on the tube in front of the stoker to collect the stuff thrown up by my wheels. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191034 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:36:16 +0000 Greenroofer 191034@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@sallyhinch - rather than Hi-Viz or a t-shirt what about a <a href="http://www.our-catalogue.com/SCSH/?s=Headgear+-+Caps-171">stylish hat of some kind</a> to make the demonstrators visible... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191033 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:27:13 +0000 HankChief 191033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I seem to have gone through quite a few different approaches in the last few years as my children have grown up.</p> <p>1. Bellelli Adventure Childseat - fixing to downtube<br /> <img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/kkkAAOSwPgxVT3SE/$_86.JPG"></p> <p><a href="http://www.halfords.com/kids-zone/kids-bike-accessories-helmets/child-bike-seats-trailers/bellelli-child-bike-seat">currently £30 - Halfords</a></p> <p>Worked well as a first seat - from about 12 months on the 2mile commute to nursery (+ 4miles solo). Didn't recline but then it wasn't a long journey.</p> <p>I thought the suspension from the arm meant that the worse of the bumps weren't going to the littl'un.</p> <p>Couldn't fit panniers as well, so had a rucksack which limited the space for the passenger.</p> <p>2. EBC revolution tagalong (as displayed by Greenroofer) c. £100</p> <p>A basic TAL, but did the business as my eldest turned 3, he enjoyed sitting on the saddle and whilst he didn't pedal he did feel more part of the experience (and was getting too heavy/big for childseat rucksack issues). One problem was on a wet day he would get a muddy face - nursery used to have a flannel ready for him.</p> <p>As greenroofer says the challenge is getting the fixings tight enough - mine was 4th hand and so quite a challenge - tended to put it on, tighten with big spanner and leave it on. On a normal tightening it would lurch +/-10degrees.</p> <p>3. <a href="http://www.trail-gator.com/">Trailgator</a> £40-50 - solid metal bar to attach to kids bike lifting their front wheel.</p> <p>Great for when they are starting to become independent as can cycle attached to a safe place for them roam or up any hills. </p> <p>Best for a leisurely ride rather than a commute as the kids bike can get mucky from your rear wheel and the resistance you get from a small wheel (i.e. 14") is much greater than than of TAL (20"). It is also longer and therefore less maneuverable than a TAL - which can become more of an issue if you are riding it solo / filtering.<br /> The kid also is pulling a bit of wheelie so can't be the most comfortable for the passenger.</p> <p>We did commute with it a few times, but not often. I wouldn't want to do lots of miles towing with it as I prefered to keep the kids bike in better shape for when it is actually being cycled.</p> <p>3. Circe Helios with Hamax Taxi childseat. c.£1500</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/nH1Ftz"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2897/14247601259_566d6784c0_z.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/nH1Ftz">Circe Helios</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91842878@N03/">HankChief</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>Not sure what I can say that hasn't been said before...</p> <p>A great solution to the problem of transporting 2 kids whilst giving the eldest the chance to pedal. Handling with the 20" wheels seemed a bit twitchy at first but took about a week to get used to.</p> <p>One downside is transporting luggage with the childseat on. You may be able to see in the picture above that I bodged on a additional metal rail lower down to take a couple of panniers. Chicanes are just about manageable but you definitely feel bumping up kerbs as you can't unweight the front wheel.</p> <p>I like the fact that it is compact so you know your kids are right next to you. Once they are off, you can ride it like an ordinary bike and filter through the narrowest of gap etc.</p> <p>In this set up we competed in the <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9507&amp;page=4#post-148804">Red Bull Hill challenge</a> and completed the 47 mile<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13386#post-164436">PedalforScotland</a>. In total 3,500 miles over 2 years, with kids aboard for nearly half of that.</p> <p>It's not cheap and unfortunately out of range of the BiketoWork scheme, but the Helios has changed our lives - really can be an alternative to a car.</p> <p>4. Circe Helios with <a href="http://www.burley.com/page_776/piccolo-trailercycle">Burley Piccolo Tagalong</a> (c.£300 new - £120-150 2nd hand)</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/uiXYLi"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/377/18581292049_2250db4902_z.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/uiXYLi">IMG_0893.JPG</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/">Chris Hill</a>, on Flickr<br /> (as trialled on Saturday)</p> <p>The only TAL I could find that would fix onto the back of a Helios (without a visible rear seatpost) was the Burley Piccolo. It has a special rack which the fixing screws into from above. It is very stable - I guess you get what you pay for with a TAL. Knowing that we would need one I could bide my time and eventually got a good deal on Gumtree for a barely used one.</p> <p>The weight of the whole rig means we aren't fast but I can still average a respectible 10mph - my eldest, on the TAL, saves his power for the 'boost' we need going up the hill to school. So far we have done 1,500miles in the last 9 months and apart from the studded tyres debacle, hassle free commuting.</p> <p>5. Double trailer (not sure what brand).</p> <p>Only pick it up recently and only used for cargo or back up for the Helios. The attachment to the bike is a clamp on the bikes tubing, which I'm not totally convince about. Needs a round tube, which a couple of my bikes don't have so I'm always worried about it detaching - it does have a safety strap, but still...</p> <p>Hope this helps - any questions just shout. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191032 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:26:35 +0000 weezee 191032@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My family particularly enjoyed trying this set up. It was good to see the Weezettes' little legs doing some of the work for a change.<br /> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/uArtnP">https://flic.kr/p/uArtnP</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191025 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:58:06 +0000 LaidBack 191025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Waverley - our demo Helios is available for try outs or hire for a day. There are cheaper (and more expensive) options but the Helios not only replaces a car but is quite decent to ride solo. A lot smaller than a Thorn childback with lots more adjust for all heights. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191013 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:25:41 +0000 acsimpson 191013@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Incidentally while considering moving some concrete slabs last week I found this handy list of trailer prices/capacities</p> <p><a href="http://www.atob.org.uk/bicycle-trailers/bike-trailer-price-guide-uk-2/">http://www.atob.org.uk/bicycle-trailers/bike-trailer-price-guide-uk-2/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191012 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:24:29 +0000 acsimpson 191012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's my list, there's pros and cons to them all and I should mention that I didn't obtain any of my items new so can't comment on price.</p> <p><strong>Dutch Wicker Seat</strong><br /> <u>Comments</u><br /> This is my first choice of seat as it is fitted to my primary bike. I frequently use it for the nursery run which other than one busy junction is mainly offroad.</p> <p><u>Pros</u><br /> Quick to fit, once it's adapted to the bike.<br /> No extra bits or custom racks required when seat is not in use.<br /> Draws attention to the bike and it's fragile cargo leading to drivers giving a wider berth (YMMV, I plan routes with a lower perceived danger when I have a passenger so this may be confirmation bias).<br /> Easy to fit accessories to due to the flexible nature of the<br /> wicker.<br /> A truly unique item and a great conversation starter.<br /> The passenger has a great view as they sit side sadle, the seat can be mounted to face either way or could even be mounted rear facing, or perhaps on a front rack.<br /> Fully enclosed legs/lower torso.</p> <p><u>Cons</u><br /> No safety markings, or sellers maximum weight ratings. It might be safer in the event of a crash due to protecting from road rash but there's no way of knowing how much abrasion it could take before disintegrating.<br /> No head support should your passenger fall asleep.<br /> Fitting it required building a custom bracket between the wooden seat base and the rack. This was probably about 2 hours work (plus time spent thinking about the design). Depending on your woodworking skills this could be more or less time.<br /> sitting side sadle seems to leave the passenger more prone to throwing their weight across the line of travel so you need to leave a margin for error while riding.<br /> Communication with the passenger is limited, as is monitoring their state of their conciousness.<br /> Not an off the shelf item, If you want one you might need to find a basket maker and commision it.</p> <p><strong>Hamax Smiley(?)</strong><br /> <u>Comments</u><br /> My second choice seat, I have this fitted to my spare bike.</p> <p><u>Pros:</u><br /> Easy to fit initially by screwing a chunky bracket to the seat post. The seat then takes seconds to fit and there are little indicators to confirm it is fully clipped in.<br /> Extra brackets are available to allow quick switching between bikes.<br /> If you're not worried about a few hundred grammes then the bracket is fairly unobtrusive when you are riding without the seat attached.</p> <p><u>Cons:</u><br /> Doesn't recline.<br /> The passenger has an uninspiring view of the motors rear<br /> The passenger's legs can interfere with pedalling (even if initially using the footstraps).<br /> Communication with the passenger is limited, as is monitoring their state of their conciousness.<br /> Not easy to attach accessories to.</p> <p><strong>Hamax Siesta Plus(?)</strong><br /> <u>Comments</u><br /> I haven't personally used this due the primary con, so comments are untested. I am currently selling it if anyone is interested in purchasing it.</p> <p><u>Pros:</u><br /> Once you have installed the compatible rack he seat takes seconds to fit and there are little indicators to confirm it is fully clipped in.<br /> The rack can still take panniers when the seat is installed.<br /> There is a reclining feature which hopefully stops some head lolling when the passenger has the titled siesta.</p> <p><u>Cons:</u><br /> You need to be able to fit the compatible rack to the bike you are using and switching between bikes would require sourcing another compatible rack.The passenger has an uninspiring view of the riders rear.<br /> The passenger's legs can interfere with pedalling (even if initially using the footstraps).<br /> Communication with the passenger is limited, as is monitoring their state of their conciousness.<br /> Not easy to attach accessories to.</p> <p><strong>Revolution Roller Trailer(EBC)</strong><br /> <u>Comments</u><br /> On loan from my brother, I haven't used this a lot so again comments are largely just thoughts. I have don't reasonable milesage with my cargo trailer though so some comments are based on that experience.</p> <p><u>Pros:</u><br /> Initial installation is as simple as removing the rear QR and adding the bracket into the setup. The simplest option there is, provided your QR is long enough. It is then also a matter of seconds to fit the trailer.<br /> Extra brackets are available to allow quick switching between bikes.<br /> The bracket is small so no disadvantage to leaving it in place.<br /> Low centre of gravity means handling is not affected much. Likewise kids moving doesn't change the balance.<br /> The trailer is big enough for 2 kids or 1 plus shopping, it can also be used as a cargo trailer if needed.<br /> There is a full rain cover should you need it.</p> <p><u>Cons:</u><br /> Almost zero communication with passengers, and very hard to monitor them.<br /> You need to remember your bike is wide at the rear (no filtering). In my experience with a cargo trailer unless you're going uphill or braking sharply you could almost forget it's there.<br /> Unless you're on dry road's you'll need the rain cover due to spray, similarly the passenger is very low so close to exhaust height.<br /> People perceive the trailer as dangerous as apparently drivers wont notice it, although as I have never (thankfully) been rear ended with (or without) a trailer I would disagree.</p> <p>Hopefully these thoughts will help someone deciding in future, if anyone has questions I'll do my best to answer. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191011 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:23:43 +0000 acsimpson 191011@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks to the organisers for a good day, even if I now have a list of N+J where J is either the number of different journeys you could consider yourself doing while carrying passengers. I think a front seat is the top item on my list for next summer, although as it's not a bike perhaps we also need an E+1 list.</p> <p>I'll put the carload of equipment I brought along in a separate post (not including Hankcheif's rather heavy hybrid/tailgator setup). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191006 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:30:29 +0000 waverley 191006@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks SRD. Sounds like our kids are similar in age gap/sizing as I have a very petite girl and then a substantially bigger boy and my concern is managing it in the longer term as he reaches 3+. Will definitely get in touch with LBB - we've been meaning to pop in there for a while now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-191003 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:09:52 +0000 chdot 191003@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>ALSO</p> <p>If anyone doesn't want their username associated with an item (or want to say something critical about someone else's), just PM me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190996 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:07:19 +0000 sallyhinch 190996@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was thinking that next time it would be nice to have the 'owners' a bit more visible in the crowd so I could find them to let them know they have a punter. Maybe a free t-shirt for any demonstrator who comes along, as a thank you (and an identifier to pick them out), although that would up the cost. And Saturday was not t-shirt weather. We could do hi vis tabards but that might make it all a bit official looking, plus of course hi vis does not really stand out in a crowd of cyclists (why the POP marshals wear blue) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190992 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:40:15 +0000 Greenroofer 190992@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EBC tagalong. Cheap and cheerful, and you get what you pay for (can't quote a price as it's not on the EBC website anymore)</p> <p>Pros - Cheap. Solid. Folds up reasonably small and reasonably easily (using QR clamps)<br /> Cons - Heavy (found on Saturday when I rode it without a child on the back for the first time ever, is that much of the drag comes from the tagalong, not the stoker). No gears, so at cruising speed the stoker spins out. Uncomfortable saddle (but can fix that). Can't adjust handlebars very much (can only rotate). Handlebars very wide. Cranks quite long, so not suitable for smaller children. Supplied tyre too knobbly (but can fix that). The biggest problem for me, though, is the connection to the bike. It's fiddly to attach the tagalong to the bike, and the joint can be sloppy (with a bad effect on handling).</p> <p>Notwithstanding all this criticism I'm satisfied with it. It was reasonably good value and has lasted my family well for occasional use. If I was going to use one every day I'd get one like HankChief. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190990 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:34:32 +0000 chdot 190990@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Starting with the Thorn Tandem</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/uA1gE1"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/301/18762803032_d7113c4fb0.jpg"></a></p> <p>Fairly 'conventional' bike with MTB sized wheels, 'childback' suitable for about 5 years on. </p> <p>Rear Blackburn rack, suitable for child seat. </p> <p>Rear cranks have 'kiddiecrank' crank shorteners - better for shorter legs.</p> <p>(Currently) new from £650</p> <p><a href="http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/new-used-tandems-and-triplets-dept405" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/new-used-tandems-and-triplets-dept405</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190989 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:18:07 +0000 SRD 190989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>hi waverley, as a not very fit short middle aged woman, I found I was okay with my two kids on the Helios, but as youngest hit three it was definitely getting tougher. But he is quite chunky and heavy in comparison to his sister at that age. </p> <p>Am sure laidback Dave of this parish would be happy to let you try a Helios kitted out for both. (Or pm me, and we can borrow a copilot seat for you to try on mine). Happy to arrange a holiday loan while we're out of town this summer.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190988 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:17:34 +0000 chdot 190988@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One thing that is 'needed'</p> <p>Is a list of what was there - and what the dis/advantages of them all are. </p> <p>Good if people add info on their own BUT non-owners' experiences valuable. </p> <p>See photos above for a reminder. </p> <p>Say as much or as little as you want <em>even if</em> people have already mentioned particular items. </p> <p>I'll extract the info in a week or so and try to make a separate page or perhaps a PDF. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190986 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:11:19 +0000 chdot 190986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And finally, the Bike Curious Family Workshop (2015 ) photos -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/sets/72157652261233194" rel="nofollow">https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/sets/72157652261233194</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190984 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:01:37 +0000 Chug 190984@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would also like to say thank you to the organisers, and also to Hankchief, who volunteered his Helios for mini-Chug and me to try out. (I'm not sure it was us who were the "graceful" users though) However, it was exceptionally easy to ride - much easier than I thought it was going to be. </p> <p>We are graduating from a child seat to another solution - we will have to work out if the prospective use justifies buying a Helios. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190983 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:57:06 +0000 waverley 190983@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh and also great to see the 14" and 16" Isla bikes in 'real life' as we've trying to decide on which size to get now that almost 4 year old is ready to graduate from the Rothan. Thanks to the twins who had brought theirs along! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190982 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:55:41 +0000 waverley 190982@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who brought their bikes to this event and took the time to explain/demonstrate/advise - it was really appreciated!</p> <p>We were there for the last half hour or so - with a 2 year old and an almost 3 year old in bright yellow jackets - as we're trying to work out the next stage (currently both in rear seats on our bikes). </p> <p>We need a way to transport both kids to and from playgroup/nursery after the summer hols, some days with 2 adults and some days with just 1. We LOVED the Helios tandem, thanks so much to the lady who let me try hers just before you set off on the meadows ride, just trying to work out if we can justify the cost... </p> <p>I also wonder if I (small, not super fit, woman) could manage the Helios with my 4 year old on second seat and 2 year old on rack seat - any thoughts? </p> <p>I also got to try a Bakfiets for the first time and my husband tried the Urban Arrow - both amazing!</p> <p>Thanks again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190919 Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:09:41 +0000 LivM 190919@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We were one of the families coming on foot with a pushchair - very impressed with the range of solutions on display. Thanks to all who set it up. I still don't know what I want, but I've got a much better idea of what to look for when I go shopping. At the moment I think a Yepp front seat for commuting and a posh trailer for days out and shopping are what might work! Just sad we had to dash off when mini-me got grumpy. Missed the cake! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=12748&page=5#post-190916 Sun, 14 Jun 2015 08:03:35 +0000 HankChief 190916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We could go on tour ;)</p> <p>I really enjoyed it - a chance to to talk family cycling and to covert others' set up.</p> <p>It was also the first time I'd seen someone else cycle my tandem - which looked very graceful (although I might be biased)</p> <p>My thanks to acsimpson for bringing across my old bike and for drbike for trying to fix it's chain without being asked.</p> <p>Same time next year? </p>