http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: To the angry car driver at Haymarket this morning... en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:20:58 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-33840 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:32:02 +0000 ruggtomcat 33840@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am particualrly fond of the Haiku Dungeon in <a href="http://www.kingdomofloathing.com">Kingdom of Loathing</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-33807 Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:24:22 +0000 haikutec 33807@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Haiku have been successfully used to calm motorists who speed. I wonder if something similar could happen that would benefit cyclists as well?</p> <p>Here's a haiku about a motorist who still needed to connect with the outside:</p> <p>traffic jam<br /> a driver fingers the breeze<br /> through the sunroof</p> <p>Alan Summers</p> <p>Publications credits:<br /> Snapshots 2 (1998); tinywords.com (2002); The New Haiku (Snapshot Press, 2002); Travelogue on World Haiku Festival 2002 , Part 2 (Akita International Haiku Network 2010); Haiku Society of America Bend Oregon First Friday Art Walk (June 2011) &amp; American Haiku Archives in Sacramento, California </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11934 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:32:53 +0000 gembo 11934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was a young man from Japan<br /> Whose limericks didn't quite scan<br /> When asked why<br /> he said because I<br /> Try to get as many syllables into the last line as I possibly can </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11829 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:07:23 +0000 Smudge 11829@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I learned something today<br /> And that is: poetry of one culture does not fit into the play dough shape mold of another "</p> <p>Hence my advanced apology for my tongue in cheek doggerel ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11825 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:59:38 +0000 spitfire 11825@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min - tell them they can feel free to get out and push their car past the lights? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11824 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:59:02 +0000 spitfire 11824@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku">Haiku</a>" (俳句, haikai verse?), plural haiku, is a form of Japanese poetry, consisting of 17 moras (or on), in three phrases of 5, 7, and 5 moras respectively.[1] Although haiku are often stated to have 17 syllables,[2] this is inaccurate as syllables and moras are not the same.<br /> In contrast to English verse typically characterized by meter, Japanese verse counts sound units (moras), known as "on". Traditional haiku consist of 17 on, in three phrases of 5, 7, and 5 on respectively.</p> <p>Although the word "on" is often translated as "syllable", in fact one on is counted for a short syllable, an additional one for an elongated vowel, diphthong, or doubled consonant, and one more for an "n" at the end of a syllable. Thus, the word "haibun", though counted as two syllables in English, is counted as four on in Japanese (ha-i-bu-n). This is illustrated by the Issa haiku below, which contains 17 on but only 15 syllables. In addition, some sounds, such as "kyo" (きょ) can be perceived as two syllables in English but as a single on in Japanese. A word that illustrates both these issues is "Tokyo", which is perceived as having three syllables in English (To-ky-o) but four moras in Japanese (To-o-kyo-o).</p> <p>The word onji (音字; "sound symbol") is sometimes used in referring to Japanese sound units in English[4] although this word is no longer current in Japanese.[5] In Japanese, each on corresponds to a kana character (or sometimes digraph) and hence ji (or "character") is also sometimes used[5] as the count unit.</p> <p>In 1973, the Haiku Society of America noted that the then norm for writers of haiku in English was to use seventeen syllables but they also noted a trend towards shorter haiku.[6] This trend is borne out by the Winter 2010 edition of Frogpond, which contains haiku with an average of 10.5 syllables, varying from six at the shortest to 15 at the longest.</p> <p>Some translators of Japanese poetry have noted that about twelve syllables in English approximates the duration of seventeen Japanese on"</p> <p>I learned something today<br /> And that is: poetry of one culture does not fit into the play dough shape mold of another </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11822 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:57:59 +0000 spitfire 11822@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How about:</p> <p>I too have a car<br /> Look at me not queueing here<br /> Sucks to be you bud </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11818 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:43:14 +0000 Min 11818@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm always baffled by how outraged some people get because you decide to get off and walk. Perhaps we could engage and direct their hysteria in a positive way into getting rid of all those hateful "cyclists dismount" signs that litter so-called cycle routes everywhere? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11817 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:35:51 +0000 LaidBack 11817@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>at Haymarket so went daft tooting his horn and flashing his lights,</em></p> <p>Do driving schools not cover this sort of thing?<br /> I merely ask as he sounds like a young driver so should be freshly instructed from <strong>'Drive me Bananas'</strong> or one of our many other great academies of motoring. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11815 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:09:56 +0000 Smudge 11815@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nothing out of the ordinary, he was upset I crossed the road in front of him (as a pedestrian) at Haymarket so went daft tooting his horn and flashing his lights, so I then jumped on the bike and followed him out to the junction at Ardmillan Terrace where I passed him and got to sit on the ASL in front. (which I really don't think he liked :-) my normal route so not chasing, just going to work)</p> <p>Just another day in Edinburgh, but I was feeling mellow and mildly poetic :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11814 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:48:53 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 11814@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ooh, what happened then? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11812 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:58:24 +0000 spytfyre 11812@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku">Haiku</a> (俳句, haikai verse?), plural haiku, is a form of Japanese poetry, consisting of 17 moras (or on), in three phrases of 5, 7, and 5 moras respectively.[1] Although haiku are often stated to have 17 syllables,[2] this is inaccurate as syllables and moras are not the same.<br /> In contrast to English verse typically characterized by meter, Japanese verse counts sound units (moras), known as "on". Traditional haiku consist of 17 on, in three phrases of 5, 7, and 5 on respectively.</p> <p>Although the word "on" is often translated as "syllable", in fact one on is counted for a short syllable, an additional one for an elongated vowel, diphthong, or doubled consonant, and one more for an "n" at the end of a syllable. Thus, the word "haibun", though counted as two syllables in English, is counted as four on in Japanese (ha-i-bu-n). This is illustrated by the Issa haiku below, which contains 17 on but only 15 syllables. In addition, some sounds, such as "kyo" (きょ) can be perceived as two syllables in English but as a single on in Japanese. A word that illustrates both these issues is "Tokyo", which is perceived as having three syllables in English (To-ky-o) but four moras in Japanese (To-o-kyo-o).</p> <p>The word onji (音字; "sound symbol") is sometimes used in referring to Japanese sound units in English[4] although this word is no longer current in Japanese.[5] In Japanese, each on corresponds to a kana character (or sometimes digraph) and hence ji (or "character") is also sometimes used[5] as the count unit.</p> <p>In 1973, the Haiku Society of America noted that the then norm for writers of haiku in English was to use seventeen syllables but they also noted a trend towards shorter haiku.[6] This trend is borne out by the Winter 2010 edition of Frogpond, which contains haiku with an average of 10.5 syllables, varying from six at the shortest to 15 at the longest.</p> <p>Some translators of Japanese poetry have noted that about twelve syllables in English approximates the duration of seventeen Japanese on"</p> <p>I learned something today<br /> And that is: poetry of one culture does not fit into the play dough shape mold of another </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11811 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:36:01 +0000 spytfyre 11811@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How about:</p> <p>I too have a car<br /> Look at me not queueing here<br /> Sucks to be you bud </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1291#post-11809 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:32:44 +0000 Smudge 11809@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I too have a car,<br /> I am not queueing,<br /> you are."</p> <p>With apologies to all the "proper" Haiku poets out there ;-) </p>