http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: TdeF 2014 en Tue, 26 May 2026 10:56:42 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-160539 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 20:25:43 +0000 gembo 160539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think nibali would have won the tour this year even with Froome and contador in it. But I do not think the French would have been on the podium.</p> <p>As to the science sport blog he is clearly asking the right questions. Doping has not gone away it is just more limited is my take. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-160518 Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:55:00 +0000 Baldcyclist 160518@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As always, an interesting perspective from the Science in Sport blog....</p> <p><a href="http://sportsscientists.com/2014/07/the-physiology-at-the-front-of-the-tour/" rel="nofollow">http://sportsscientists.com/2014/07/the-physiology-at-the-front-of-the-tour/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-159213 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:12:46 +0000 chdot 159213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-has-no-regrets-over-not-selecting-wiggins" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-has-no-regrets-over-not-selecting-wiggins</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-159169 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:38:44 +0000 gembo 159169@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good old Robert millar I enjoy his copy as I enjoyed his heroic cycling - if he had team sky then or if he was in team sky now...... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-159166 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:26:25 +0000 minus six 159166@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar">Robert Millar</a> blogging frequently again </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-159162 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:21:37 +0000 chdot 159162@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Now there's going to have be some attacking riding in the mountains."</p> <p>But not quite yet -</p> <p>"</p> <p>Geraint's view: This is a nailed on sprint stage. Several teams will try to get into an early break looking to give some television exposure to the sponsors of their teams. Expect to see several French riders wanting to get on television and also hoover up the King of the Mountains points on the two small categorised climbs. But the real climbers and breakaway specialists will wait for another day.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27962056" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27962056</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102&page=2#post-159161 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:15:06 +0000 chdot 159161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Porte was Sky co-leader already - Thomas</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.supersport.com/cycling/tour-de-france/news/140709/Porte_was_sky_coleader_already_Thomas" rel="nofollow">http://www.supersport.com/cycling/tour-de-france/news/140709/Porte_was_sky_coleader_already_Thomas</a></p> <p>"</p> <p>Chris Froome's exit gives Geraint Thomas his big chance</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/other-sport/cycling/tour-de-france-2014-chris-7398429" rel="nofollow">http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/other-sport/cycling/tour-de-france-2014-chris-7398429</a></p> <p>"</p> <p>Tour de France 2014: Stage-by-stage guide</p> <p>By Geraint Thomas Five-time Tour de France rider</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27962056" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/27962056</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159160 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:14:32 +0000 PS 159160@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Yep, Wiggins may end up double p*ssed if he had his eye on that.... </em></p> <p>I don't think he ever had his eye on winning it - he was talking about using it as training ahead of the Worlds time trial (although, given the way he seems to change his mind depending on whom he spoke to last, who knows what his goal will be by then?). But you're right, if Froome's in the team, the likelihood of Wiggins being in it is sharply reduced.</p> <p>Loved that stage yesterday. It's just the sort of chaos a good grand tour needs. Now there's going to have be some attacking riding in the mountains. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159159 Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:44:26 +0000 gibbo 159159@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Serves Sky right for having no plan b, though </em></p> <p>Porte's the plan B. IMO, he's a serious contender.</p> <p>(I'm thinking back to his Paris-Nice win last year.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159157 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:58:23 +0000 Kenny 159157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I predict a scaphoid fracture for Froomey. They are notoriously hard to identify even with an x-ray. Often it takes days before an x-ray will show the fracture, for some reason. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159143 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:14:52 +0000 Baldcyclist 159143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"On the bright side, presumably its now Froome v Quintana at la Vuelta"</p> <p>Yep, Wiggins may end up double p*ssed if he had his eye on that.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159140 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:51:31 +0000 minus six 159140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the bright side, presumably its now Froome v Quintana at la Vuelta </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159139 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:51:37 +0000 minus six 159139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Serves Sky right for having no plan b, though </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159138 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:46:44 +0000 amir 159138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not good news. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159137 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 14:46:00 +0000 minus six 159137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Froome's out - didn't get as far as starting the cobbles... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-159122 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:37:51 +0000 amir 159122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Meanwhile in Austria, one of the "British" "rejects" is doing well:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/28225749" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/28225749</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158876 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:29:33 +0000 Baldcyclist 158876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Except that it becomes a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If they don't 'flag' cycling fewer people will click..."</p> <p>Perhaps, but you could say that for any of the 'other' sports. The BBC is not there to 'promote' any activity. It's just a content provider, and if you provide content usually you take an evidence based approach as to what to put on your pages and where, and you make sure that your 'target' audience knows how to get to the content they may wish to view. &lt;&lt; The BBC is about as good as anyone at *that*, to the degree that most content providers now follow the BBC formula, even down to layout.</p> <p>The TdF is a 'big' story just now, and lots of people are interested so it is sitting pretty much smack bang in centre of front page just now. Next week no one will be interested again, except maybe us... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158874 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:14:13 +0000 amir 158874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>TdF is a little different from most spectator sports in that the spectators don't pay. So the publicity caravan is forgivable and was quite fun actually - French products mixed in with Yorkshire tea and a dose of health insurance. Not your ITV fare. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158873 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:14:08 +0000 chdot 158873@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"BBC are usually pretty spot on with their websites"</p> <p>Except that it becomes a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If they don't 'flag' cycling fewer people will click... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158870 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:09:43 +0000 Baldcyclist 158870@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"So one can therefore assume that the BBC feel cycling is a bigger draw from viewers outside of the UK?"</p> <p>i would have thought they would have stats to back that up if it is the case, and base their design / menu items on that. BBC are usually pretty spot on with their websites </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158869 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 11:06:36 +0000 Kenny 158869@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/ogtRsF"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5571/14615030743_62a65157bd.jpg"></a></p> <p>I'm thinking that the BBC are showing a different menu depending upon whether you're in the UK or not. I had not realised this was the case (until now). So one can therefore assume that the BBC feel cycling is a bigger draw from viewers outside of the UK? And apparently only the UK viewers care about Rugby League. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158852 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 10:27:30 +0000 ARobComp 158852@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>TdF costs a FORTUNE as does pretty much everything else these days. At least it's workings are slightly less abhorrent than fifa. </p> <p>I guess this means that sponsorship is at the fore! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158851 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 10:24:24 +0000 acsimpson 158851@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It doesn't appear to be there this morning.</p> <p><a href="http://imgur.com/LSx1TOK"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/LSx1TOK.png"></a></p> <p>It must be a contender for the UK's largest live viewing audience ever. I guess there more money in Formula 1 though so it retains it's place in the top bar.</p> <p>When you consider the size of the publicity caravan and the number of support vehicles I do sometime wonder if the TdF is less about bike racing and more about promotion. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158847 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 10:13:32 +0000 amir 158847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was a hint in the Breakfast news today that the Beeb has woken up to the popularity of cycling but I fully expect them to forget and start yapping on about off-season football gossip. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158845 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:58 +0000 Kenny 158845@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Snowy - I did the same yesterday and it was there! Just went back to check the now, to make sure I hadn't dreamt it, but there it is, albeit at the end, but there nonetheless. I must have checked after you and they added it at some point during the day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158835 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:51:28 +0000 Snowy 158835@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Smudge has a very good point. I went onto BBC Sport website earlier today and tried to spot cycling in the menu bar at the top of the screen...</p> <p>Football : Formula 1 : Cricket : Rugby U : Rugby L : Tennis : Golf : Athletics</p> <p>I think the BBC is suffering from ostrich syndrome. I appreciate there is a difference between participating in an everyday activity and spectating in a related sport, but I find it most odd that cycling is not yet given day to day 'recognition' by the BBC. </p> <p>Especially since it's been Team GB's best success over the last few years. Still relegated to the sat/cable sports channels, by and large. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158829 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:05:26 +0000 Smudge 158829@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well if anyone thought that cycling in the uk was a minority sport with a limited following, a reported 2.5 million spectators should convince otherwise! :-o<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-28179818" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-28179818</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158828 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:03:39 +0000 Bhachgen 158828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I ended up on Cray too. Drove over with 4 clubmates, parked just off the A59 on the way up to Gargrave and rode up from there. Ended up watching from a few yards past the KOM point.</p> <p>Fantastic atmosphere on the roads all the way through, not spoiled by a few dafties neglecting to shoulder check before setting off/changing lane/dawdling across the road. Far less threatening than the inattentive drivers we usually have to deal with on rides in any case!</p> <p>Highlights:</p> <p>-Getting cheered up the climbs by the massive crowds.<br /> -The general atmosphere and the large amounts of good-natured banter.<br /> -The many, many kids of assorted sizes who were all, without fail, riding absolutely on the rivet, to the extent that quite a few parents appeared to be working hard to keep up, great to see.<br /> -Roadside chat with a Police Scotland motorbike officer who was clearly having at least as good a time as those of us not being paid to be there.<br /> -Very fine pint of cool pale ale when we finally rode past a pub that wasn't bursting at the seams. Barman reported they'd served 160 people in half an hour at the peak earlier in the day.</p> <p>Surprising things:</p> <p>- The ludicrously large number of vehicles in the 'caravan'.<br /> - The "tour-makers" - not sure what they were meant to be doing but all I actually saw them do was walk about in large , glaikit groups 6-abreast on a road that thousands of people were trying to cycle up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158816 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 18:03:47 +0000 recombodna 158816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yesterday on cray was effing braw!!!!!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13102#post-158805 Sun, 06 Jul 2014 10:39:24 +0000 crowriver 158805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, it's a terrible shame. His own doing, by the looks of it. To crash out on home turf, in his mother's home town: well words can't describe how that must feel. Quite apart from the pain of a dislocated shoulder. </p>