http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Death trap installed on Morrison Street en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:07:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314&page=2#post-13579 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 08:34:42 +0000 chdot 13579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>'and finally' -</p> <p>"There is a debate on the City Cycling Edinburgh forums about the safety of the hoarding related to the EICC expansion construction site."</p> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/edinburgh/2010/sep/26/edinburgh-tesco-trams-miliband-reaction-mayfield-bank" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/edinburgh/2010/sep/26/edinburgh-tesco-trams-miliband-reaction-mayfield-bank</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13560 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:07:22 +0000 gembo 13560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Certainly seem to be plenty of dangerous obstacles to complain about at the moment. I would like to add my own complaint, personal to me which annoys me about myself. I occasionally approach this giant hole in the ground from Lothian Road and cycle up past the All BAr One wine emporium as part of a wee short cut. At this point I then remember I cannot cycle across to the EICC anymore as there is a huge hole in the ground. I then have to cycle round the hole and they have even put up signs saying cyclists dismount. Eventually I then join this accident blackspot. Accident blackspot? They're throwing themselves into the middle of the road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13559 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:50:50 +0000 Min 13559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(a) I've never once had any issue with cars trying to take me out as I cross the end of the approach road. Most even indicate. </p> <p>Are you sure you are thinking of the right place? I used to live round there and I found that road terrible to cross even walking because drivers NEVER indicated and there was no way to tell out of the constant stream of motorists driving round there who was going to slam their foot on the accelerator and try to hit you as you walked across. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13558 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 01:19:47 +0000 druidh 13558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(a) I've never once had any issue with cars trying to take me out as I cross the end of the approach road. Most even indicate. </p> <p>(b) I still can't see what the problem is around Morrison Street. With all that traffic being at a standstill, it's even better for bikes.</p> <p>(c) The work at Gardners Crescent/Fountainbridge includes the installation of a cycle crossing for those existing the canal at Cargo. Carry on through Scottish Widows and you have a great shortcut to the EICC and beyond to Rutland Square. Now, if only they would make a cycle lane along Rutland tSreet so as to avoid a right turn into Shandwick Place..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13557 Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:17:11 +0000 steveo 13557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah that's the bit... know it well? :D</p> <p>I tend to come out to the middle of the road just after the lights to make sure they have to run me over from behind instead of sideways, not sure if its really any better..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13555 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:41:48 +0000 kaputnik 13555@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>and the really fun bit of fountain bridge where the cars try to kill you while getting to the approach road. </em></p> <p>You mean the bit between Diggers and Dundee street, where there's a red painted cycle lane across the entrance to the West Aproach? Right where cyclists are going slower after an uphill start (that I've never, ever managed to avoid) so the drivers just assume they have right of way to pull a left across a cycle lane and a white "give way" line to barge you out of their way and get onto the WA 3 seconds earlier...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13549 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:18:08 +0000 steveo 13549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've given up with that for the time being and taking my chances with the Gorgie obstacle course and the really fun bit of fountain bridge where the cars try to kill you while getting to the approach road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-13546 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:01:41 +0000 kaputnik 13546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So this just got a lot better.</p> <p>Gardner's Crescent closed, so traffic can't go straight across from Dewar Place. Therefore lots of confused cars all trying to squeeze into the left turn lane for Morrison Street. As a result, traffic backing all the way along Torphicen Street.</p> <p>And rightmost lane of Morrison street (heading East) coned off from Sainsburys to Odeon (so they can dig up the pavement). Meaning traffic turning right out of Semple Street now has to try and filter into the already confused traffic exiting the EICC contraflow.</p> <p>What a load of nonsense. You really think that they (whoever "they" are) are actually trying to make things as complicated as possible. Someone has put a lot of thought and effort into coordinating a perfect storm of roadworks here. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12587 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:21:55 +0000 kaputnik 12587@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>blue/white Trek road bike with yellow bar tape, pedals and cabling, blue tyres and some roadracer crudguards (which unfortunately only come in black). There's only one of them on the road!</p> <p>Occasionally seen on a red / white giant singlespeed with red and white tyres or a blue ridgeback touring bike with yellow bartape and backrollers if there's a load to be carried.</p> <p>Easier to spot the SPAM or BANANA cycling jersey! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12578 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:03:35 +0000 steveo 12578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>You'll both have to slow down... </em></p> <p>Not sure what's being implied here...</p> <p>I'm the <strike>poor </strike>lazy b... struggling up Morrison Street one the white mtb with rubbish semi slicks on because i've never got round to putting the nimbuses back on....</p> <p>Kaputnik, what do you ride? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12576 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:33:41 +0000 kaputnik 12576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>You'll both have to slow down... </em> Well the headwind helped me this evening, particularly as I was on the singlespeed, but I guess that meant Steveo was doing maximum warp going the other way. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12571 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:10:04 +0000 chdot 12571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"one of these days I'm going to recognise you"</p> <p>You'll both have to slow down... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12570 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:07:58 +0000 kaputnik 12570@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Seeing as you appear to do my commute, but in reverse, one of these days I'm going to recognise you Steveo and give you a wave! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12569 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:06:26 +0000 chdot 12569@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Chdot, you been pestering the council??"</p> <p>Yes/no</p> <p>I believe the fact that the councillor concerned with transport thought that he must have missed a one way street sign (while driving) helped...</p> <p>P.s. and these photos... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12567 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:53:44 +0000 steveo 12567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"perhaps a word from on high came down"</p> <p>Chdot, you been pestering the council??</p> <p>Seen the lights were back on today, does lead to moron racing you to the lights now though, can't win really. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12566 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:39:37 +0000 kaputnik 12566@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Didn't have a camera on me as I came home this way, however there has been 2 minor improvements on this section.</p> <p>1/ The traffic lights have been re-instated<br /> 2/ The former road markings have been burnt off and new lines painted to provide 2 equally-sized (if tiny) lanes</p> <p>An improvement for pedestrians, and less confusing than making drivers think they're going the wrong way down a 1-way street, but still very narrow, still with the nasty chicane at the end and still doesn't really deal with the fact that this is being put in purely to provide a transit van park.</p> <p>Makes you wonder if it was always the intention to finish the temporary re-alignment of the road in this manner and - if it was - why it was opened to traffic in an incomplete state. And if it wasn't, perhaps a word from on high came down to "get it sorted" ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12316 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:01:57 +0000 chdot 12316@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4951561884/"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4951561884_7b0936e6d3_z.jpg"></a></p> <p>Had a quick look today. </p> <p>No apparent reason for crossing to be out of use. </p> <p>Women in photo said "wish me luck" before running across the road. </p> <p>This is what's behind the blue wall -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4950986283/"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/4950986283_5a0f90384b_z.jpg"></p> <p></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12268 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:18:29 +0000 chdot 12268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4949172843">I had a look at Dewar Place.</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/4949172843_75f53db1c9.jpg"></a></p> <p>I've been complaining for years about the way the council allows developers to put their offices on or over the pavement (like at SpringSide/Fountainbridge) - resulting in problems for pedestrians and cyclists.</p> <p>I thought I'd finally got somewhere earlier this year.</p> <p>Seems not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12267 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:17:19 +0000 kaputnik 12267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unfortunately neither of us caught a snap when it's backed up with cars in both directions and truly intimidating.</p> <p>On the basis of the success of my letter to Lothian Buses I better get writing a picture-assisted note to the cooncil methinks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12263 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:06:43 +0000 Arellcat 12263@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kaputnik wasn't the only one taking photographs of Morrison Street today. Here is the pedestrian crossing point, noting that there is no pavement to the right of the traffic lights:</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/4949514400_d99dc2c3f8.jpg"></p> <p>Here is a cyclist giving some scale to the proceedings:</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4948922663_622c24127e.jpg"></p> <p>and here are some cars to give some more scale:</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4117/4949512910_36e5881c56.jpg"></p> <p>As pointed out earlier, there is no cyclist filter room at all along this stretch. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12253 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:02:27 +0000 Kim 12253@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nothing will be changed until some gets hurt, that is the way Local Authorities work... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12251 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:32:31 +0000 kaputnik 12251@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back on topic.<br /> As requested, some pictures (with abridged versions of my flickr captions)</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/4948989980_7ce44c3079.jpg"><br /> At the end of the &quot;management&quot;, the traffic island has been left in position. This forces drivers to pull into the left to pass it, exactly where a cyclists may be filtering, and is a bit stuck due to the badly placed cone. And notice the lowered kerbstone on the island - pedestrians are being re-directing the pedestrians to cross back across the road here, right into confused traffic trying to filter into one of the 3 lanes here for left / ahead / right at the junction with Lothian Road.</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/4948989302_41b62c846e.jpg"><br /> "Where shall we cross, Mummy?"<br /> "At the lights, little one"<br /> Er, no. The lights have been disabled exactly where the "traffic management" forces pedestrians to cross the road into 2-way traffic. Notice green portacabins installed on what was previously the pavement. They're not actually doing any work on this bit of ground, they just want somewhere where they can eat bacon rolls and scratch their ars*s</p> <p><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/4948989712_6936de4df5.jpg"><br /> The 2 previously wide lanes have been restricted to 1 and a quarter lanes. However there's still 2 way traffic (no alteration to road markings), with a conveniently positioned bin at the end of the westbound lane to force drivers to make a chicane. Pedestrians are directed between the hoarding and the red and white plastic device. Again notice that the portacabins extend to the full width of the road that has been reclaimed - there is no actual work happening on this ground. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12167 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:53:29 +0000 chdot 12167@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Off topic?"</p> <p>I've seen worse...</p> <p>Blame BikeRadar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12160 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:07:52 +0000 recombodna 12160@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Off topic? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12157 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:21:19 +0000 Rabid Hamster 12157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What stuns me is the comments by CI Graham Clarke of StrathPol:<br /> <em>"We need to <u>piece together</u> what happened and get these people locked up. As the days go on, we will look at if this is <u>connected to something else</u>."<br /> Mr Clarke warned associates of Hanlon not to try to retaliate. He said: "We will be <u>looking closely at the poor man</u> who was the subject of this horrendous attack, and his associates.</em>.<br /> Did he consult his Media Office about appropriate comment before saying this?<br /> Reminds me of an awful leather cheesecutter saddle I had when I was an oik in Stockeree!<br /> Back on topic... speak to the helpful Mr Rimmermann at EICC and ask him to move his building site a little, as he spent all summer complaining about the tardy Heras fencing and the RJ MacLeod site in front of the Usher Hall! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12153 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:07:50 +0000 Arellcat 12153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you value your dinner, for crying out loud don't read that newspaper article. That's just horrible. :-x </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12142 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:14:51 +0000 Smudge 12142@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Be glad you commute here and not in Glasgow, sounds like being squished is the less painful of the options :-0<br /> <a href="http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16439504" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16439504</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12136 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:00:23 +0000 steveo 12136@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Urgh tell me about it, i've been fighting with that all week. I generally just get out in the middle of the lane as soon as i come round from Dewar Place folk can just bloody wait as i slog up that hill. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12133 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:30:09 +0000 kaputnik 12133@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm commuting armed with the camera tomorrow. Lights getting a bit low now and I've got leek and tattie soup on the go to be keeping an eye on! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1314#post-12128 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:07:00 +0000 chdot 12128@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Photo? </p>