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(Not the White Paper thread) en Sun, 17 May 2026 14:38:14 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=24#post-177842 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:22:44 +0000 kaputnik 177842@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Our memories warp and fade before our very eyes...</em></p> <p>Indeed...</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/bbc-hired-indyref-bodyguard-for-nick-robinson-1-3657887" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/bbc-hired-indyref-bodyguard-for-nick-robinson-1-3657887</a></p> <p><em>The row was widely seen as one of the uglier flashpoints of the lengthy referendum campaign, which also saw Scottish Labour’s Jim Murphy pelted with eggs by Yes supporters during a street speaking tour.</em></p> <p>Well that's not <em>quite</em> what actually happened, but why let the recorded truth get in the way of the Hootsman's campaign to portray the Yes campaign as an angry mob out to lynch Nick Robinson and turn Jim Murphy into a human omelette. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=24#post-177836 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:54:28 +0000 chdot 177836@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm <em>really</em> not going to post on this thread often...</p> <p>Similar but different -</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/george-kerevan-murphy-s-turn-to-play-rebel-card-1-3660254" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/george-kerevan-murphy-s-turn-to-play-rebel-card-1-3660254</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=24#post-177835 Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:46:30 +0000 I were right about that saddle 177835@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Our memories warp and fade before our very eyes...</p> <p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11344083/Jim-Murphy-risks-looking-like-a-loser-by-running-away-from-a-winning-effort.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11344083/Jim-Murphy-risks-looking-like-a-loser-by-running-away-from-a-winning-effort.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176910 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:40:34 +0000 acsimpson 176910@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don't forget SNP's rather successful policy of vote for us because we don't persecute motorists like the others, broom broom. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176907 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:37:18 +0000 chdot 176907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://electionforecast.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://electionforecast.co.uk</a></p> <p>(As used by Newsnight) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176905 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:24:38 +0000 kaputnik 176905@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is the new dark arts of politics. Rather than saying what they intend to do, each side claims what they think the other might be intending to do. Both sides can then deny what the other says they are going to do as idle speculation (i.e. "nonsense") on the part of the other, thereby committing to nothing and leaving the voter thoroughly confused as to who is promising what in a race to the bottom to determine which of the parties is <strike>most best</strike> least worst, when they're probably evens. </p> <p>Expect a Tory campaign based on "what Labour will blow big sums of money on" with a Labour response of "we're going to cut just as much as the Tories, but in a different way and a Labour campaign based on "we're not them, honest, although we're basically promising to spend the same way they do". And a Libdem campaign of "<em>Please, for the love of God, please vote for us! We can change, we'll try harder. We're not like that lot! Don't go, we need these seats - we've got second mortgages to pay for! Policies? Oh we'll do pretty much the same as the other lot, but we'll do it in a <u>fairer</u> way</em>"</p> <p>There was a short Adam Curtis piece on this in 2014 Wipe. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176877 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 19:51:15 +0000 chdot 176877@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unfortunately 'cycling' has already been mentioned in the election campaign. </p> <p>The Conservatives have produced a document drawing together everything they consider to be a Labour spending promise. </p> <p>This is one the BBC has chosen to highlight -</p> <p><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7553/15584875214_dc28129aaf.jpg"></p> <p>So Labour says it's 'not true'. </p> <p>If they form a Government does that mean they won't spend <em>any</em> money?</p> <p>Does seem to suggest that Conservatives think it's 'unaffordable' - or perhaps not enough?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176847 Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:44:15 +0000 chdot 176847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>17 weeks to go until the UK/Westminster election. </p> <p>Today the campaigning/politicking has started in ernest. </p> <p>Going to <em>try</em> to treat it as a spectator sport and not comment (until nearer the time!)</p> <p>It will be interesting to see how many candidates 'feel the need' to appear at PoP. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176471 Tue, 23 Dec 2014 22:18:59 +0000 chdot 176471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> He believes the way to improve health and wellbeing is by making people want to look after themselves, be well and be active because they believe life is worth living.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/jobs--families-best-medicine-4848782" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/jobs--families-best-medicine-4848782</a></p> <p>(And a lot more interesting quotes.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176356 Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:25:57 +0000 I were right about that saddle 176356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No immediate boost to the BLP;</p> <p><a href="http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/12/murphy-proves-magic-bullet-labour/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.whatscotlandthinks.org/2014/12/murphy-proves-magic-bullet-labour/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-176348 Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:16:06 +0000 chdot 176348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Scotland's former chief medical officer Sir Harry Burns would be a new adviser looking at the issue of inequality.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&amp;page=21&amp;replies=683#post-174173" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&amp;page=21&amp;replies=683#post-174173</a></p> <p><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8653/15888526889_a37a4c2d36.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175770 Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:17:15 +0000 chdot 175770@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>One of those vanity-soaked prophecies that are fun to cut out and return to the light after the prophecies tumble to the ground like cyclists on ice.</p> <p>Is he really idiotic enough to believe this sort of wild forecast?</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll#comment-44957507" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll#comment-44957507</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175756 Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:59:30 +0000 chdot 175756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>The challenge for himself and Dugdale was: “How do we make Scotland the fairest nation on the planet?”</p> <p>Acknowledging the amount of work facing him before the general election, with Labour trailing in the polls compared with a surge in support for the SNP, he said that polls “are there to be proved wrong”.</p> <p>“I know there’s a huge amount of work to do in a really short period of time,” Murphy said. “I am confident that we will hold all [the Westminster seats] that we have. Any seat that the SNP tries to win from Labour increases the chance of David Cameron having an overall majority and I’m determined that won’t happen. We’ve had one referendum and we’re going to have another referendum in May, and it’s on whether Scotland genuinely wants rid of David Cameron.”</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/14/snp-scottish-labour-murphy-poll</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175740 Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:21:04 +0000 LaidBack 175740@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was result a surprise?</p> <p>They could attend POP then in tandem. Kezia has in the past.</p> <p>Thought being Blairite was not considered an advantage in Scotland with the 'war on terror' hangover likely to drag on? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175732 Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:44:44 +0000 chdot 175732@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jim &amp; Kezia </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175579 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 01:04:52 +0000 chdot 175579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"This whole grassroots thing"</p> <p>The future, no future, or? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175578 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:56:44 +0000 Instography 175578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This whole grassroots thing is a bit overblown, no? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175577 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:50:25 +0000 chdot 175577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>For as its opponents are never slow to point out, the SNP, as a party of power, has its own top-down and centralising tendencies. And if one legacy of this referendum year is a sense of grassroots energy and empowerment that not only inspires similar movements across the Border, and begins to shake the UK political establishment, but also sets a more energetic, radical and demanding agenda for our own local authorities and national government here in Scotland, then that will be an achievement to celebrate, in or out of our increasingly fractious United Kingdom.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/joyce-macmillan-path-to-change-lined-with-desire-1-3632394" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/joyce-macmillan-path-to-change-lined-with-desire-1-3632394</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175390 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:26:13 +0000 chdot 175390@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Over a quarter of people who voted for Labour in Scotland in 2010 will back the SNP next year, according to YouGov polling. Analysis by The Times Red Box shows 28% of Labour voters from the last election say they now plan to vote for the Scottish nationalists in the Westminster election.</p> <p>The previous electoral phenomenon of people voting SNP in Holyrood elections and Labour in Westminster elections looks like it may have potentially disappeared. The SNP’s post-referendum boost has not disappeared, with almost three months of polling showing their new levels of support has sustained.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.labourlist.org/2014/12/scottish-labour-could-lose-over-a-quarter-of-voters-to-snp" rel="nofollow">http://www.labourlist.org/2014/12/scottish-labour-could-lose-over-a-quarter-of-voters-to-snp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175382 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:42:47 +0000 chdot 175382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scots-labour-stopped-being-movement-for-change-1-3630352" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scots-labour-stopped-being-movement-for-change-1-3630352</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175026 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:11:39 +0000 chdot 175026@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>NEW opinion poll statistics have given a big boost to SNP hopes of a major breakthrough in Edinburgh at next year’s general election. </p> <p>he figures from Populus suggest the party has 35 per cent support in the Capital, an increase of 23 per cent since the last Westminster election in 2010. To make matters even worse for Labour, the Tories emerge in second place in Edinburgh on 25 per cent support – up 5.9 per cent since 2010.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/general-election-2015-poll-gives-snp-major-boost-1-3628337" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/general-election-2015-poll-gives-snp-major-boost-1-3628337</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-175023 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:51:25 +0000 chdot 175023@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>UPDATE: McTernan denies the story to Guido.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://order-order.com/2014/12/08/another-london-born-labour-adviser-parachuted-up-north" rel="nofollow">http://order-order.com/2014/12/08/another-london-born-labour-adviser-parachuted-up-north</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174975 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:27:03 +0000 kaputnik 174975@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The McTernan-Murphy dream team. Blairism alive and well in <strike>Scottish Labour</strike> the Scottish parish of Labour? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174973 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:55:30 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cc</p> <p>I'm sure the BBC will step in where local enthusiasts are lacking. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174971 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:53:04 +0000 cc 174971@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm sure Labour in Edinburgh South West will be overrun by eager helpers in the weeks and months leading up to the Westminster election, all enthused and happy to have the chance to support the famous John McTernan and get him elected to the Mother of Parliaments. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174966 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:36:03 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174966@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I predict a riot. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174965 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:29:20 +0000 chdot 174965@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/john-mcternan-tipped-for-alistair-darling-seat-bid-1-3628107" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/john-mcternan-tipped-for-alistair-darling-seat-bid-1-3628107</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174937 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:26:42 +0000 kaputnik 174937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This could go on a number of threads, but implications are mainly in the realms of the political / 2015 General Election;</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/hinds-given-ultimatum-over-position-on-bus-board-1-3627016" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/hinds-given-ultimatum-over-position-on-bus-board-1-3627016</a></p> <p><em>Workers at Lothian Buses have threatened to withdraw their support from Councillor Lesley Hinds’ Scottish Parliament election bid over her handling of a boardroom row at the firm.</p> <p>The Lothian Buses branch of union Unite has called on the city transport leader to leave the position on the board of the company that she was parachuted into just three weeks ago. It is understood staff at the company also want Unite support for Cllr Hinds’ bid for a seat in the Scottish Parliament to be withdrawn, potentially dealing her a serious blow in a marginal constituency and delivering a “huge coup” to the SNP, according to an insider.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174878 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 21:10:56 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh, I can't wait to see how higher rate tax relief on pension contributions works. Anybody thinks two income tax rates in one country is easy is about to get an object lesson in fiscal swamp construction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13446&page=23#post-174875 Sun, 07 Dec 2014 20:10:33 +0000 Instography 174875@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a bit overdone. Most taxpayers are pretty straightforward - they live in Scotland so will be a Scottish taxpayer. The only complexity is a relatively small number of people with more than one residence. And of them the only really difficult ones are those for whom HMRC has an address in England but who, on proper consideration of the time they spend living in Scotland, should be considered Scottish taxpayers. HMRC has no way of knowing that they should be taxed at Scottish rates unless those people change their address to a Scottish address and so far they have no incentive to do so. But still, the Scottish rate will be announced in November 2015 and will come into effect in April 2016. Between those dates, the coding notices will go out to tell every taxpayer in Scotland that they are a Scottish taxpayer. </p>