http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: 'Reported Road Casualties Great Britain: 2013 Annual Report Focus on cyclists' en Mon, 18 May 2026 16:46:48 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167390 Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:46:54 +0000 slowcoach 167390@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd guess that the extra 109 vehicles are of unknown type, and the note "2. Includes other vehicles types and cases where the vehicle type was not reported" should refer to the All vehicles total, with the first number column being cycles, and the second number column being vehicles with type reported as something other than pedal cycle, but excluding those (109?) with type not reported. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167267 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:59:48 +0000 i 167267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think "all vehicles" mean cars and bicycles, if you can call a bike a vehicle, then 39% is an average of 50% and 27% (38.5% actually). </p> <p>13078 bicycles + 12476 other vehicles = 25,554 not 25,663. I wonder where the extra 109 vehicles came from... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167266 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:42:27 +0000 acsimpson 167266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As the comments say these are just cases where the Officer records their opinion of contributory factors. There is also 39% where no contributory factors are recorded which presumably are where the officer thinks the cyclist and motorist just happened to collide and nothing could have been done about it (or they didn't file the paperwork).</p> <p>What I can't understand is how the figure for no contributory factor for all vehicles can be higher than the figure for motor cars alone. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167138 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:06:14 +0000 i 167138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I interpret it as 50% of bicycle users were not to blame, 27% of other vehicle users were not to blame and the rest (23%) where there's a shared blame. </p> <p>Or in other words 27% of cases it was all the bicycle users fault and 50% of cases it was the vehicle users entire fault. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167134 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 12:41:47 +0000 Greenroofer 167134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Am I interpreting the table about 'contributory factors' on page 12 correctly when I think it tells me that "in an accident involving a bicycle and at least one other vehicle where there was a contributory factor, there was no contributory factor recorded against the cycle 50% of the time".</p> <p>In other words, in half of all accidents involving a bike, the bike was not to blame <em>at all</em>.</p> <p>...and bikes are only responsible for 23% of the accidents they are involved in.</p> <p>Have I interpreted the table right? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167122 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:53:45 +0000 Ed1 167122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://understandinguncertainty.org/micromorts" rel="nofollow">http://understandinguncertainty.org/micromorts</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167093 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 23:09:48 +0000 crowriver 167093@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Edinburgh is the only city in Scotland where car ownership and use is in decline. Rising everywhere else (though Glasgow has lower levels of ownership and use, it is growing).</p> <p>This is perhaps a factor, in addition to those chdot mentions above. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167092 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:27:00 +0000 chdot 167092@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"maybe edinburgh atypical?"</p> <p>Yes. </p> <p>It would help if the reasons could be clearly indentified and the things that 'work' repeated (and copied elsewhere). </p> <p>37 years of cycle campaigning (Spokes) and (consequently) reasonably receptive councils have probably been the main factors. </p> <p>Demographics, students and bike shops/projects all contribute and reinforce. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167091 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 22:19:39 +0000 gembo 167091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very thorough report with criticism of its own data which is refreshing. Only one per cent increase in cycling seems low? But maybe edinburgh atypical? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13514#post-167088 Sun, 05 Oct 2014 21:50:16 +0000 chdot 167088@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/358042/rrcgb2013-02.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/358042/rrcgb2013-02.pdf</a> </p>