http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Marchmont to King's Buildings consultation en Tue, 19 May 2026 05:10:34 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-340604 Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:28:56 +0000 pringlis 340604@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Excellent thank you, let's hope they can stick to that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-340564 Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:00:42 +0000 Frenchy 340564@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Last update was that it's expected to be completed in July 2021.</p> <p>From page 44 of the list of active travel projects in the "Questions and Answers" pdf here: <a href="https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=150&amp;MId=5546&amp;Ver=4" rel="nofollow">https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=150&amp;MId=5546&amp;Ver=4</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-340561 Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:33:08 +0000 pringlis 340561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Meadows to King's Buildings thread reminded me of this Marchmont to King's Bulidings Scheme. Anyone know whether there's been any movement on it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-322015 Tue, 04 Feb 2020 18:37:50 +0000 Snowy 322015@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Particularly the ones that double park directly opposite junctions, greatly increasing the incident risk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-322010 Tue, 04 Feb 2020 15:37:28 +0000 mgj 322010@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any chance of some parking enforcement for the double parkers in the existing provision on Marchmont Road would be welcome. Same cars parked in the same places, outside of spaces often, every day. Road surface appalling. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321974 Tue, 04 Feb 2020 07:55:08 +0000 gembo 321974@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Morningsider, London is another country of course but they fairly quickly rolled out the cycle super highways </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321970 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 22:47:25 +0000 Morningsider 321970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>gembo - unfortunately, you have also won the second prize. Which is attending the public inquiry into the TRO for your first prize. Due to be held in 2027. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321963 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 19:53:24 +0000 gembo 321963@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@iwrats, yes i am signed up for the Early Bird competition. Looking forward to my first prize - 50cm of segregated infra </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321947 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 15:49:18 +0000 I were right about that saddle 321947@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p>Madness. The <a href="https://scotland.getmeactive.org.uk/">Sustrans Workplace Challenge</a> is the way forward. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321946 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 15:39:49 +0000 gembo 321946@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>scrap Cycling Scotland, scrap Sustrans, use the money to build segregated infrastructure instead of spending it on well intentioned Quangos who in fact now appear to exist to prevent government money being spent on Infrastructure? </p> <p>This is of course harsh and we all sup with the devil with our long spoons. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321942 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:20:56 +0000 neddie 321942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I think at the end of the day, only so much 'proper' segregated infrastructure can be built within current budgets and funding.</em></p> <p>This is nonsense.</p> <p>One of the reasons the government won't expand the active travel budget is because they say "if we increase it too much, it won't get spent"</p> <p>Aim high, then negotiate down. Don't start from a low base, "oh well, that's all we'll get so why ask for more" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321940 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:53:06 +0000 toomanybikes 321940@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Objecting to the TRO, and ending up in a lengthy hearing, will no doubt just cause lots of legal fees that will probably get taken from the AT budget.</em></p> <p>That's fair. I'm all for parking restrictions, but paint is beyond meh, it's actively regressive </p> <p>" passing events on roads with a bike lane with no parked cars had a reduced mean passing distance of 27 cm (Q1: 25 cm, Q3: 29 cm), and passing events on roads with a bike lane and parked cars had a mean lower passing distance of 40 cm"</p> <p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001457518309990?via=ihub" rel="nofollow">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0001457518309990?via=ihub</a></p> <p>That's before considering the perceived right of way overtaking drivers seem to have when there's a car parked in the cycle lane and I have to merge back out, which is one of the most dangerous scenarios I encounter on the road. </p> <p>Why not apply for more national funding for segregated lanes, or wait til the funds are there locally, rather than putting in something that reduces safety. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321939 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:44:26 +0000 CycleAlex 321939@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Worth opposing PG tips style, but with fact based evidence? e.g. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/17/painted-bike-lanes-waste-money-cycling-commissioners" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/17/painted-bike-lanes-waste-money-cycling-commissioners</a></blockquote></p> <p>I think at the end of the day, only so much 'proper' segregated infrastructure can be built within current budgets and funding.</p> <p>While the advisory lanes are meh, extending and introducing new waiting restrictions should help (if enforced).</p> <p>Objecting to the TRO, and ending up in a lengthy hearing, will no doubt just cause lots of legal fees that will probably get taken from the AT budget. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321938 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:25:30 +0000 jonty 321938@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What precisely is being changed to require the TROs? Presumably just painting lanes isn't enough to need one? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321935 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:16:16 +0000 toomanybikes 321935@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Still seems to be the same painted-on pish along Marchmont Rd</em></p> <p>Worth opposing PG tips style, but with fact based evidence? e.g. <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/17/painted-bike-lanes-waste-money-cycling-commissioners" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/17/painted-bike-lanes-waste-money-cycling-commissioners</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321934 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 12:10:43 +0000 neddie 321934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Will JPGS travel committee be responding</em></p> <p>Yes.</p> <p>But we haven't officially received the TROs </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321932 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 12:07:14 +0000 Frenchy 321932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will JPGS travel committee be responding? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-321929 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 11:51:10 +0000 neddie 321929@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There seems to be some movement on this...</p> <p>It is being done in two phases:</p> <p>Draft TROs have been drawn up for the phase 1 section between Melville Dr and Charterhall Rd (not public yet, but may well be shortly)</p> <p>Still seems to be the same painted-on pish along Marchmont Rd / Kilgraston Rd / Blackford Ave. Really annoying, given the abject failure of the QBiC and the fact that Marchmont Rd could easily have the bike lanes <em>on the inside</em> of the parking... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-318138 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:26:18 +0000 CycleAlex 318138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>It is currently anticipated that the statutory procedures will commence in April 2015.</blockquote></p> <p>Ah Edinburgh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-318130 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:12:01 +0000 chdot 318130@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And don’t forget -</p> <p>This thread was “Started 5 years ago”</p> <p>The city centre is important, but... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-318129 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:53:40 +0000 I were right about that saddle 318129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been cycling that route on and off since the eighties. No material change. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-318128 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:48:01 +0000 Roibeard 318128@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mini-Roibeard didn't see any improvements in her childhood, Micro-Roibeard isn't either (although other areas of Edinburgh did see improvement in the 19 years being considered - and no, the QBiC doesn't count!).</p> <p>Nano-Roibeard might possibly see something in the south of the city, although that's predicated in improvements being implemented prior to 2024!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=4#post-318125 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:58:37 +0000 Morningsider 318125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I started using part of this route a few times a week when mini-Morningsider started primary 2 at the Deanbank Annex of South Morningside Primary. Pretty much the same time the initial consultation on this was launched. If the date Frenchy has quoted is right, mini-Morningsider will have started high school before any work on the initial phase is completed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-318123 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 14:04:46 +0000 toomanybikes 318123@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I seem to remember the last designs being totally unprotected dashed white line, with single yellows. Will it be less rubbish than the previous designs? Or will it be exactly the same as the last consultation? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-318121 Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:36:04 +0000 Frenchy 318121@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Someone posted a response the got from the council about this on the PoP Facebook page</p> <p>"A TRO process will commence shortly for the first section of the route to be delivered, from the Meadows to Blackford, and we hope to be able to commence delivery of this section in early 2021." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-243894 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:14:27 +0000 neddie 243894@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've heard they are applying for CL funding before the Sustrans deadline for this year (which has already passed).</p> <p>There will most likely be a TRO as the next stage, so drumming up letters of support will be important. Should be this academic year, well before summer holidays.</p> <p>Sounds like project is moving along and is in the current work plan still. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-243892 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:11:03 +0000 Frenchy 243892@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The next step will be a statutory consultation on the Traffic Orders required to implement the scheme (e.g. to restrict parking and loading). This is expected to be advertised publicly in 2016 with a view to constructing the scheme in 2017."</p> <p>from here: <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20135/cycling_projects/1138/marchmont_to_kings_buildings_cycle_route" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/20135/cycling_projects/1138/marchmont_to_kings_buildings_cycle_route</a></p> <p>Also has links to plans, but these seem to be the original proposals. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-243888 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:44:04 +0000 chdot 243888@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone know about any 'plans', 'updates'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-225466 Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:00:16 +0000 Frenchy 225466@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/marchmont-to-king-s-buildings-cycle-route-consulta" rel="nofollow">https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/marchmont-to-king-s-buildings-cycle-route-consulta</a></p> <p>"What happens next: ...It is currently anticipated that the statutory procedures will commence in April 2015." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13536&page=3#post-225462 Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:26:32 +0000 cc 225462@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When's the work due to go ahead, does anyone know? The consultation was the year before last, by the looks of this thread. </p>