http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cyclist fell into harbour trying to avoid his dog en Mon, 18 May 2026 16:46:41 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168466 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:15:44 +0000 richardlmpearson 168466@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I ride the Kirkliston - Newbridge path almost every morning and they are great on that path. I meet a group of dog walkers at the same time every moning. (Can set watch by them) and thay always gather up their dogs when they see me approach and say "Good Morning". I always slow and am equally polite in return.</p> <p>I did have one incident at the other side of Newbridge on the way home one night, where I admit I should have slowed a bit more, but was also trying to avoid some glass on the right hand side of the road/ path. </p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qifkwTvrHc&amp;list=UU5snwnP57TPdDEDpsP_z42g" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qifkwTvrHc&amp;list=UU5snwnP57TPdDEDpsP_z42g</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168463 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:43:30 +0000 paddyirish 168463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dog owners on the Kirkliston -Newbridge old railway line are almost always courteous, forward thinking and a pleasure to share paths with. They always get a cheery greeting and thanks from me.</p> <p>The only time I had a problem was just N of Kirkliston on that line, heading for Dalmeny when an out of control dog chased me for some time.</p> <p>Similar with owners on the Fife coast path, but due to blind corners we can sometimes surprise each other. At least in winter the beam of my light will be a help... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168403 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:17:35 +0000 Stickman 168403@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My experience is about 50-50 for people saying thanks. Probably the same proportion as people saying thanks when I hold a door open for them, for example.</p> <p>Although once in London I shut the door I was holding open in someone's face after the 10th person in their group walked through without saying thanks. I'm polite, but everyone has their limits. And a few days in London had left me frazzled. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168402 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:16:07 +0000 chdot 168402@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"suggests that it's a very rare occurrence"</p> <p>I do when it's clear that it's being done for mutual benefit, but there are times when dog minders seems to be glaring at cyclists for 'making' them do it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168399 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:11:00 +0000 Uberuce 168399@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The surprise I observe from similar dog controllers upon receiving my thanks suggests that it's a very rare occurrence. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168376 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 16:10:50 +0000 Stickman 168376@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wingpig: I did this when I had my short time with the rescue dog. </p> <p>I also do it when looking after my brother's dogs. <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=746&amp;page=176#post-160529">Uberuce said thanks as he went past. </a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168372 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:58:16 +0000 wingpig 168372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's one dog-controller I see regularly on the NEPN on both commute-halves who notices cyclists in advance, retrieves his short-leashed dog and stands on the grass at the edge of the tarmac until the cyclist has passed. I've never seen anyone else nod/thank at him for this. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168367 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:20:07 +0000 kaputnik 168367@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The moustache bars are new, we may have passed when it had (yellow-taped) drops and when I was in my summer plumage (grey t-shirt) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168360 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:01:32 +0000 Stickman 168360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's pretty distinctive. We've not passed.....yet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168359 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:57:14 +0000 kaputnik 168359@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In which case if you pass a dark blue steel-frame bike with yellow-taped moustache bars and an always-on dynamo front light and a single yellow pannier on the right hand side, that's probably me. My magic plastic hat is white and has a chequerboard reflective band around it. It often has a cap underneath it, which may have a white or yellow or black peak. My coat is either yellow if it's not raining (black on front) or if it's raining black (also black on front). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583&page=2#post-168357 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:51:49 +0000 Stickman 168357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik: I go west to east in the morning and reverse in the evening. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168356 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:44:58 +0000 I were right about that saddle 168356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"apologies for frivolity"</p> <p>Surely the least necessary combination of keystrokes possible on CCE? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168355 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:39:20 +0000 gembo 168355@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We used to cycle to the golf course with our clubs over our shoulders, you don't see that much now.</p> <p>I am good on golf theory (my dad was a club pro) fixed the chair of Pentlands branch's swing problems on referendum day. Think that might have been his favourite bit about the day. </p> <p>Used to play braid hills but it is quite hilly. Also carricknowe where I played my finest eight holes until nearly being hit by a ball which knocked me off my stride on the ninth. Almost no one plays golf anymore. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168354 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:34:04 +0000 algo 168354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - apologies for frivolity or any suggestion of similarity between the Braids and Menie - I was just amused by the threat of golfers to dogs, dogs to cyclists and by transitivity golfers to cyclists, or by cyclicity cyclists to golfers…. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168353 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:28:23 +0000 kaputnik 168353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Stickman, probably only if you go west-east in the morning. If you were going east-west (same as I) then we would probably never cross. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168349 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:26:31 +0000 Stickman 168349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kaputnik, I'm also guessing that we pass each other regularly! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168347 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:25:00 +0000 Stickman 168347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> The collie is old and has bad feet and occassionaly wears slippers. The dogs are fine and well behaved.</em></p> <p>Sadly I think that collie is no longer with us (or at least isn't being taken for walks any more). I spoke to the owner about the slippers once and they were special pressure-relieving shoes that were for the dog's arthritis. They allowed the dog to get out for walks; pre-slippers it was very limited in how far he could go. </p> <p>The collie he is out with now is a younger female model. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168344 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:18:05 +0000 kaputnik 168344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Stickman, that's him. The collie is old and has bad feet and occassionaly wears slippers. The dogs are fine and well behaved. The owner less so. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168341 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:07:27 +0000 I were right about that saddle 168341@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik</p> <p>Do not forget the towpath's Maximum Spaceman. Border Collie on a lead to sweep out extended perimeter and Border Terrier off the lead for surprise/ninja sorties from the undergrowth. Aluminium walking stick to knit the extenda-lead into something more convoluted. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168340 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:05:21 +0000 I were right about that saddle 168340@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@algo</p> <p>Braids One is the anti-Menie. Natural, cheap and open to all. Read this and weep;</p> <p><a href="http://www.trumpgolfscotland.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.trumpgolfscotland.com/</a></p> <p>Come to think of I have hit another dog. Smacked a farm dog with a Kryptonite lock when it tried to unseat me on the B851 many moons ago. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168339 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:04:30 +0000 Stickman 168339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>There is one elderly dog walker in particular I pass regularly on the Corstorphine/Pinkhill path who is very recalcitrant about making even a small amount of room to allow us to pass eachother, despite early and polite bell ringing.</em></p> <p>Is it a chap with two dogs, one gorgeous Lassie-a-like rough collie and another wee Scottie-type? That chap can be a bit unwilling to move, but I know to take it slow past him and his dogs are both very well behaved. He's pleasant enough if you are on foot - I've often said hello to him. </p> <p>Sounds like I've been lucky with my experiences up to now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168334 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:54:59 +0000 SRD 168334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>NMW can be dodgy when walkers stay on the pedestrian side, but throw balls for dogs on the meadows proper with e inevitable consequence that Dogs then run across the cycle path section unexpectedly </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168333 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:53:23 +0000 algo 168333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Golf seems to be <a href="http://www.edfilmfest.org.uk/films/2014/a-dangerous-game">a dangerous game</a> for animals…. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168331 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:51:06 +0000 kaputnik 168331@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I've been on the bike. I'm interested to know where the packs of wild canines are in Edinburgh.<br /> </em></p> <p>I've only ever come close to hitting a dog in Edinburgh on one occassion, very late at night on MMW. Owner (playing with phone and oblivious to her charges or other path users) was walking on one side of the path with a dog on a leash when all of a sudden the other dark little dog scuttled out from behind the tree line in front of me. Collision was narrowly avoided. I tried to offer some advice about keeping a dog under control on a cycle path at night, for its own safety, but got nothing but grief in return (along the lines of "you'll be done for murder").</p> <p>I've had an out of control dog chase/try bite me on the Restalrig path once before. The owners response to my shout for him to control the beast was to challenge me to what I believe is known in some circles as a "square go" and then threaten to kill me.</p> <p>I'm always wary of dogs off the leash on the path as they are want to change sides at will as they explore for interesting smells or when the owner calls them. I'm also always wary of same on those extendable leashes as on many occassions a dog has suddenly run across to the other side of the path, towing the clothesline behind it. I do not count dogs off the leash or on an unlocked extenda-leash as being under control. No matter how well behaved they normally are and how well they usually respond to commands, they're just animals with animal instincts and urges and if some interesting quarry or a nice-smelling dog of the opposite sex is present they will do their own thing.</p> <p>The main problem I have experienced with dogs when cycling is not the dogs at all but owners who don't appreciate that part of the way a shared path works is to share it. My main bugbear is how one person plus one dog seem so able to take up an entire path, usually by dog walking on one side, owner on the other, forcing you to pass between them, which is the least desirable way to go about such things. There is one elderly dog walker in particular I pass regularly on the Corstorphine/Pinkhill path who is very recalcitrant about making even a small amount of room to allow us to pass eachother, despite early and polite bell ringing. He occasionally has a conference with other elderly dog owners in the middle of the junction with Traquair Park Lane which is something of a grey-haired, bunneted road block.</p> <p>If you cycle on a shared use path, you should expect dogs and cycle accordingly. If you walk your dogs on a shared use path, you should expect cyclists and control your beasts accordingly. I vaguely remember someone posting some advice (don't think it was legislation) about dogs needing to be on a leash within x. m of a shared use path.</p> <p>I would never intentially try and hit a dog, but if push came to shove and it was a choice between me bailing off the bike into a holly bush or a dog getting a clip, I value my own safety/wellbeing higher than that of anyone's dog. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168328 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:40:54 +0000 Stickman 168328@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS: I hit a sheep with a sliced drive at Brora. Again the sheep didn't look too bothered - it might not have felt it through its fleece. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168327 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:34:23 +0000 chdot 168327@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dawdling dogs aren't (generally) the problem - it's the darting ones!</p> <p>And ones on long 'invisible' leads. </p> <p>Though of course the bigger problem is owners who don't think they should be controlling their dogs - or imagine that they are doing!</p> <p>But yes - some cyclists don't 'cycle for the conditions' (adequately) and/ or expect everyone to get out of their way. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168326 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:26:38 +0000 Stickman 168326@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>dawdle on the path from leith to Roseburn</blockquote></p> <p>Doesn't sound like a major problem. There are pedestrians and cyclists who dawdle on that path too. I'm frequently fall into one of those groups. And (some) drivers view cyclists as dawdling on the road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168325 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:25:49 +0000 I were right about that saddle 168325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Never hit a dog yet, apart from one horribly topped/sliced drive on the seventh at Braids One. Sickening noise and I was utterly ashamed but the dog seemed not to be too bothered. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168324 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:23:09 +0000 gembo 168324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Always slow for dogs, never hit one yet. Owners occasionally say thanks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13583#post-168323 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:22:22 +0000 Ed1 168323@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There seems to be a lot of dogs that dawdle on the path from leith to Roseburn. I always slow down when see one but some do go past a little fast maybe. </p>