http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Danger fear over pedestrian delays in city centre" en Wed, 13 May 2026 09:14:01 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173395 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:31:25 +0000 Kim 173395@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All across the city, not just on Princes Street, pedestrians are given the lowest priority and motor traffic the highest priority. The current, so called, Active Travel Action Plan in no way addresses this. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173378 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:39:16 +0000 PS 173378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Almost nothing turns from Princes Street onto that street yet a surprising number of people do just stand waiting</em></p> <p>When there's a crowd it's difficult to get a clear enough view either way down Princes Street to check if there's nothing coming. Throw into the mix that there's a filter from South St David St tunring left onto Princes Street (or at least there used to be) that pedestrians can't see because of the position of the traffic lights (causing confusion when the light next to the Scott Mon is red but the filter is green), then I often wait unless I'm sure of where in their cycle the lights are. </p> <p>Surely the ped crossing green man should be linked to the tram lights so that it goes green at the same time as a tram is passing? Then peds can look on trams as their friends. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173374 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:18:28 +0000 Instography 173374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>There's one tram every ten minutes. Presumably pedestrians aren't standing there looking at an empty road for all the time? There is other traffic?</em></p> <p>Almost nothing turns from Princes Street onto that street yet a surprising number of people do just stand waiting. Some people realise that they can walk to the pedestrian island, some scamper the whole way across. I've sat there through three phases of the lights along Princes Street because of trams and then because of buses completely blocking the junction (I need into the right hand lane to turn onto Waverley Bridge.</p> <p>I've given up stopping for the lights at Haymarket Yards unless there's actually a tram on the junction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173369 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:47:50 +0000 chdot 173369@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I was wondering why"</p> <p>I think you'll find the answer was in the EN article!</p> <p>"</p> <p>A council spokeswoman said improving traffic sequencing for pedestrians, cars and public transport was a matter of trial and error.</p> <p> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173366 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:41:30 +0000 wingpig 173366@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was wondering why both Dalry Road - Haymarket and West Maitland - Torphichen had both gone through two clear sequences ignoring my wish to turn right at both last week. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173362 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:48:53 +0000 Lizzie 173362@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>all the lights along princes street have been re-phased since the tram and are giving priority to tram passage no matter where they are in their cycle. It really stinks and is bad for all other users including pedestrians and buses. The tailbacks around st andrews square are really a joke at times...<br /> The trams seem to me to be causing more congestion and difficulties than they are at alleviating congestion. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173334 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:31:48 +0000 AKen 173334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Changing the priority of crossings should be a really easy one. The worst I've seen are the lights at the bottom of South St David Street that sit on red, with pedestrians held on the pavement (or risking it) for up to 10 minutes waiting on trams to go by.<br /> </em></p> <p>There's one tram every ten minutes. Presumably pedestrians aren't standing there looking at an empty road for all the time? There is other traffic? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173326 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:29:49 +0000 PS 173326@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Changing the priority of crossings should be a really easy one. The worst I've seen are the lights at the bottom of South St David Street that sit on red, with pedestrians held on the pavement (or risking it) for up to 10 minutes waiting on trams to go by.</em></p> <p>Yes, I was stuck at this one for a couple of minutes last week until I took my life in my hands. I'd say 50 to 60 people stuck there, whilst perhaps 15 vehicles used the junction (albeit including one bus). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173310 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:17:58 +0000 Instography 173310@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Someone needs to remind Edinburgh that its own vision for 2030 is one of "promoting Active Travel with streets appropriately designed for their functions, with an emphasis on encouraging walking, cycling and public transport use and a high quality public realm".</p> <p>This fits nicely with the Scottish Government's vision for 2030 where "Crossings prioritise people and give confidence to users, for example short wait times, no staggered crossings, sufficient time to cross and far-side visual cues for people with auditory loss and auditory cues for people with visual impairment."</p> <p>Changing the priority of crossings should be a really easy one. The worst I've seen are the lights at the bottom of South St David Street that sit on red, with pedestrians held on the pavement (or risking it) for up to 10 minutes waiting on trams to go by. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173303 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 14:58:39 +0000 jdanielp 173303@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I note that cyclists are not mentioned as being the kind of people to start engaging in dangerous behaviour when they get frustrated, although neither are car drivers:</p> <p>"People have been complaining about cyclists having to wait, cars waiting and now pedestrians. We have to get the system right, because if people are frustrated, they’ll start engaging in dangerous behaviour – be that motorcyclists, bus drivers or pedestrians." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13989#post-173285 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:20:47 +0000 chdot 173285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/danger-fear-over-pedestrian-delays-in-city-centre-1-3614079" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/danger-fear-over-pedestrian-delays-in-city-centre-1-3614079</a></p> <p>It all started here!! -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13949" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13949</a> </p>