http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: I thought Marathon+ were puncture-proof! en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:50:59 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-174078 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 12:14:55 +0000 crowriver 174078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"a pair of Marathon not-Plus 28mm are winging their way to me now"</p> <p>Excellent choice, Sir Uce of the Vale of Uber. I find this particular variety most hard wearing and efficacious on the Dawes Audax semi-speedy bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-174071 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 11:56:07 +0000 wingpig 174071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Inflate-a-bit when fitting the tyre to the rim to keep the tube away from the rim-bead area (including not attaching the tube valve ring thing yet to be able to push that bit of the tube well clear of the bead) then inflate-a-bit-more to stretch the tyre a little just before attempting to get the last bit of it on, perhaps with a little more (though not total) deflation, then a partial inflation and another squidge all round the tyre to get it to seat properly, then leaving it for a bit at 50-60psi to check for the absence of installation errors (including pinch-punctures) before eventual full-inflation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-174065 Mon, 01 Dec 2014 11:32:39 +0000 fimm 174065@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Inflate - deflate - inflate?<br /> Do you mean, you put the tyre back on, inflate the tube, then deflate the tube and re-inflate and you're good to go?<br /> Or something else? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173998 Sun, 30 Nov 2014 00:12:15 +0000 gembo 173998@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@beano, I bought some tyres from wiggle once, probably Gatorskins. There was a deal with inner tubes but when they came they were tiny. Probably 18-23. I pinched them both putting them on. Gave up on wiggle after that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173987 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:38:22 +0000 Beano 173987@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Schwalbe and Marathon+ I take it all back...alas, not a puncture through your tyre but an inadequate fit to the rim by yours truly. </p> <p>Indeed the cause was a pinch puncture near the valve; probably due to me screwing the silver thing down although I noticed it pinched AGAIN on the re-fit post puncture. Left the silver thingy off completely now. </p> <p>Hopefully all sorted now. Take a bow IWRATS and all above who got it right! :-)</p> <p>These forums are great for the novice...I'll be extra careful on my next P**** ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173982 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:43:43 +0000 gembo 173982@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah Uberuce you are moving to the UFO spotting capital of Midlothian. Nice. Also the cafe at the chapel is FAB and good pub and cake shop so we we have CCE outing to vist imminently, well once you move in, innit. (London yoof speak circa 1985)</p> <p>May well be out that way tomorrow on loop of pentlands taking in thie newish roadside cafe down by dolphinton. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173981 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:42:54 +0000 chdot 173981@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Roslin address"</p> <p>Is that Harrison Park South?</p> <p>Mind the horses -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/15672995208/"><img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8646/15672995208_7ea7669c9b.jpg"></a></p> <p>At least you won't get lost -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/15834678966/"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7520/15834678966_5524e67b83.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173980 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:38:20 +0000 Uberuce 173980@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No gembo, it's Yoof for the lols.</p> <p>Anyway, a pair of Marathon not-Plus 28mm are winging their way to me now, for to be shod onto Mileomnomnometer, since I suspect I will find my impending Roslin address tiresome on Wee Blue Floofy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173979 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:18:37 +0000 gembo 173979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On tattie day in Balerno a couple of years back I did col du Climpy route with Kaputnik and druidh. I must have had a virus as they were having to wait for me. Anyway at the end of the ride druidh indicated that his yellow dustcaps would match kaputnik's yellow bar tape and kaputnik's blue dustcaps would match druidh.'s blue tape. So they swapped </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173978 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:08:39 +0000 chdot 173978@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Of course there's dustcaps and there's dustcaps -</p> <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/15283760604/"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15283760604_7899c96554.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173948 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:21:25 +0000 gembo 173948@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Teh lulz</p> <p>Is that German for the lols? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173942 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:05:57 +0000 minus six 173942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>alles gut, alles klaar </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173941 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:00:02 +0000 Uberuce 173941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was indeed just riffing off gembo's advice, although I was playing for teh lulz, not laffs. Get hep with the young cats, daddio. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173938 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:37:39 +0000 minus six 173938@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>thanks for clarifying, gembo</p> <p>perhaps beano can come back in after his investigation</p> <p>i reckon his pinch flat is near the valve...</p> <p>anyway i've been in berlin all week, its a siberian minus five, so its time for mehr glühwein </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013&page=2#post-173932 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:38:38 +0000 chdot 173932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I'd like one of ARobComp's girlfriend's bikes please"</p> <p>You can't get one until ARC has patented the secret ingredient. </p> <p>(Won't be cheap though.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173930 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:29:03 +0000 sallyhinch 173930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd like one of ARobComp's girlfriend's bikes please </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173928 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 19:54:20 +0000 gembo 173928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am also sticking with inflate deflate inflate.</p> <p>I think the logic is similar to bax - stops you having a flat when you set off because of pinch or oddly positioned tube. Ensures you are good to go or indeed makes you have the p-word whilst you Are still stopped at a spot suitable for changing tubes.</p> <p>It's what my daddy told me when I was about knee high, walk tall, walk straight and look the world right in the eye.</p> <p>Uberuce tho' I believe was playing for laffs </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173912 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:05:24 +0000 minus six 173912@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Gembo: what's the logic behind inflate, deflate, inflate?</em></p> <p>i assume that gembo and uberuce were unconvinced as to the quality of my advice and engaged in some light sarcasm.</p> <p>nevertheless, the advice holds !</p> <p>if you screw the valve nut on too tight before inflating, then you risk a slow pinch flat within a few inches of the valve.</p> <p>also, if you screw it too tight after inflating, then next time you inflate, you're back in the same boat.</p> <p>personally i've only had this problem with narrow walled rims and 100 psi, and it can take a while to figure out the cause.</p> <p>which i've now clarified for the benefit of future generations. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173906 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:51:37 +0000 fimm 173906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dust caps... me, too. Nearly entirely to do with the look of the thing (though given the amount of dirt that gets on the average wheel, why wouldn't you want to keep it out of the valve?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173894 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:13:03 +0000 MeepMeep 173894@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like my dust caps for no other reason than I think they suit the aesthetics of the bike better than staring at exposed presta valves. Could be the same for Mrs ARC?</p> <p>Tbh, I'd probably throw a wobbly if Mr MeepMeep got rid of mine and thereafter be convinced the bike didn't ride the same as it did with them. I know that'd be wholly childish but I also know it probably wouldn't stop the strop.</p> <p>Gembo: what's the logic behind inflate, deflate, inflate? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173854 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:41:47 +0000 ARobComp 173854@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My girlfriend knows little about bikes apart from the fact that she liked to ride them, and that if she get's it dirty it magically cleans itself over the weekend, but the one thing she is adamant about, is that the dust cap is the single most important piece of the bike. We almost had a row when I didn't replace them, I had to hunt through my "crap bits box" to find them. </p> <p>I'm assuming at some point someone told her they were needed and it's stuck. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173849 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:10:22 +0000 paddyirish 173849@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My Marathon plusses gave out after about 2.5 years when I got two different foreign object punctures in quick succession. The rear went first (not surprising as it has 135kg of paddy, child, childseat, paddy and child's cr@p bearing down on it). The front could have gone longer (LBS said that as a rule of thumb, front tyre's lifetime = 2X rear) but I wanted to move to 28mm from 32s and decided to change both.</p> <p>Had a first puncture on the 28s last week, but touch wood all going OK again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173831 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:54:14 +0000 gembo 173831@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes I will be conducting a breathing meditation this afternoon at waverley court in the quiet room.</p> <p>As van Morrison says in sweet thing - you breathe in you breathe out</p> <p>Also good to take a zen like approach to changing a tyre if possible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173828 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:46:41 +0000 Uberuce 173828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also don't forget to inhale exhale inhale. I skipped that step trying to put on a pair of Marathon Winters and woke up five minutes later with a 8mm spanner imprinting on my cheek.</p> <p>In marginally less silly news, I managed to ruin a Gatorskin in the process of removing it the other day. It was a nightmare to hoik off and evidently I ripped a bit of the rubber on the bead, and now it won't stay on the rim. </p> <p>I'd be disgruntled but they were on their last legs anyway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173827 Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:35:06 +0000 gembo 173827@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Always inflate deflate inflate when changing a tube </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173775 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:27:59 +0000 chdot 173775@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"It's not really doing anything"</p> <p>The point is to stop the tube moving - more likely to happen if the tyre is underinflated. </p> <p>Moving/rubbing can cause wear/puncture. </p> <p>Key reminder is to check rim tape - especially around valve hole - <em>and</em> any exposed metal bits that could have sharp edges. </p> <p>Before double walled rims, spokes used to be a significant cause of punctures. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173774 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:13:04 +0000 minus six 173774@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Kenny -- aye, i was going to mention this very same on your thread last week, but didn't get round to it.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173773 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:11:26 +0000 minus six 173773@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>It's not really doing anything</em></p> <p>yes, much like the dustcap, its not really necessary</p> <p>If the slow pinch flat is quite near the valve, its quite likely due to screwing the nut on too tightly </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173772 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:09:43 +0000 Kenny 173772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I learned this last Friday, @bax (the hard way). Which leads me to wonder, what the hell is the point of it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14013#post-173770 Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:46:37 +0000 I were right about that saddle 173770@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bax</p> <p>I'd never thought about that. It's not really doing anything, given there's already 90psi trying to blow the valve back out of the rim. </p>