http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Neat film about bicycles (in Edinburgh) en Mon, 06 Apr 2026 03:41:24 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174583 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:49:42 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174583@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting;</p> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/23/michael-phelps-scandal-portrayal-intersex-people" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/23/michael-phelps-scandal-portrayal-intersex-people</a></p> <p>We're doing well on whipping up cyber mayonnaise today, aren't we? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174579 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:28:33 +0000 Ed1 174579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Would tend to think the gender would not need to be mentioned I mean would say film made a Glaswegian ginger or a Glaswegian average height person.</p> <p>Of course with political correctness can be tricky because what if the person in question (the film maker) choose to defined themselves by their gender, or hair colour then may consider it a snubbing by failing to mention although tend to think the default position would be neutral in most context. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174578 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:23:56 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@jdanielp</p> <p>Your humour does not go unnoticed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174577 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:19:48 +0000 Roibeard 174577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Politically correct or not, I really dislike women being referred to as "females". They're people, not animals!</p> <p>Perhaps it's just growing up on a farm that makes me think that referring to someone via their sex is demeaning...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174576 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:11:31 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Greenroofer</p> <p>That is a risk, but one I <em>think</em> I cover by inflection. But ma'am sounds like I'm crawling at a garden party. </p> <p>I'm strongly influenced by the other languages, with their formal tone and titles. Apart from having to acknowledge or speculate on the marital status of adult females, this feels right and has much more felxibility than you might think.</p> <p>Madame IWRATS' mother addresses me in the familiar and I address her in the formal, which just feels right. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174575 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:10:33 +0000 cc 174575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Two lovely films. Thank you <strong>chdot</strong> and <strong>jdanielp</strong>! You made my morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174574 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:09:59 +0000 Ed1 174574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>May be just use the word "person" or "someone" rather than gender specific words to avoid any actual or possible negative inference associated with gender specific words. -) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174573 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:08:03 +0000 jdanielp 174573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD apologies... I did briefly deliberate what to type, but decided that lady or woman seemed rather too formal. Perhaps I should have left it as "Glaswegian" for safety. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174571 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 13:03:06 +0000 Greenroofer 174571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - there's the risk of sounding like a US police officer: "Sir/Ma'am will you please step out of the car and put your hands on the hood", but apart from that I think the sir/ma'am thing has a good ring to it.</p> <p>'lady' and 'gentleman' are OK when used together, but if I say "I saw a lady on a beautiful Colnago yesterday", I just sound like a five year-old. Also, my mental image of both 'lady' and 'gent' is likely to involve grey hair. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174565 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:39:12 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I try to address adult males not personally known to me as 'Sir'. In the second person it's 'gentleman' and 'lady'. As regards addressing adult females not known to me...I can't say 'madam', less so 'ma'am'. </p> <p>So I just don't talk to them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174562 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:34:25 +0000 SRD 174562@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>'tis interesting that we appear to have no informal terms for women that don't have a demeaning/belittling aspect to them....</p> <p> i like bloke and use it a lot. as in an email to a colleague whose first language is german. she then followed up our conversation by writing an email addressed to 'Mr Bloke' ..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174558 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:29:08 +0000 Greenroofer 174558@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD agreed.</p> <p>General question:<br /> Is there a non-patronising female equivalent of the informal descriptions of a man that we have? There are lots of words like 'chap', 'fellow', 'bloke' that I can use in preference to the completely grey, technical and neutral 'man', but I've scratched my head for several minutes and can't think of a single one to replace 'woman'...<br /> <strong>girl</strong> - nope<br /> <strong>lady</strong> - that's what my children say. It's not informal enough.<br /> <strong>lass</strong> - still has some childish connotations, so almost certainly not<br /> ...then I run out of ideas. There <em>must</em> be some equivalents I've missed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174557 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:19:47 +0000 I were right about that saddle 174557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In the spirit of compromise and linguistic diversity I propose that we refer to the film-maker as a 'gallus quine'.</p> <p>Unless she self-identifies as a 'girl'.</p> <p>(:¬{} </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174551 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:12:13 +0000 Ed1 174551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes I was just being silly I should have used a symbol -). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174550 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:08:58 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 174550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it's likely SRD meant the fact shed graduated was a good indicator of age, rather than a university qualification meaning someone was more worthy of the moniker. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174549 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:04:12 +0000 Ed1 174549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If she did not graduate she would have remained a girl for life. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174546 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:00:56 +0000 SRD 174546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>in so far as she's graduated from Uni, dare i suggest we might refer to her as a 'woman' rather than a 'girl'? Or shall we refer to film-maker of the OP as a 'boy'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174545 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:48:22 +0000 jdanielp 174545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fun film, which reminds me that I meant to post a link to the winning entry from Cineworld's "Dream to Screen" short film-making competition about a frustrated cyclist which was made by a Glaswegian girl. It was shown before films at Cineworld for a week or so a little while back:</p> <p><a href="http://youtu.be/DHiQLNEjJ7Q" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/DHiQLNEjJ7Q</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14064#post-174528 Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:08:30 +0000 chdot 174528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe2UoUjdO8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe2UoUjdO8</a> </p>