http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Use of Phone whilst Driving: The Evidence en Mon, 18 May 2026 15:25:31 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14102#post-175551 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:35:03 +0000 Greenroofer 175551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's possible that two witnesses were available for each of these offences (and it's English law too), but interesting and swift approach. Also a good bit of PR...<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-30427592">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-30427592</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14102#post-175531 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:53:59 +0000 Snowy 175531@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Way out of my zone here but I think it's the corroboration that's the important thing in Scotland - so I would have thought that one policeman plus a witness, or indeed any 2 independent witnesses, supported perhaps by phone records, would be enough for a prosecution...? Legal eagles can perhaps comment... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14102#post-175529 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:49:04 +0000 firedfromthecircus 175529@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was told by the policeman that I reported an incident to that 2 police officers have to see the person actually talk into the handheld phone or actually type on it. Holding it is not enough, and one officers word is not enough. Seems this has come about by an early charge being contested in court.</p> <p>It has now become one of those ridiculous laws that brings other road traffic laws into disrepute by being completely unenforced. The people I see are brazen about it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14102#post-175522 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:20:30 +0000 Dave 175522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had a video of a driver waving his phone under my nose while he talked at length to me through the window (in a queue of traffic). After it was featured in the Evening News, it was sufficient for a couple of policemen to go and find the driver and "advise him" that this is naughty, but no actual action was taken.</p> <p>Makes me think that the standard for prosecution or a fixed penalty is incredibly high. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14102#post-175494 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:15:35 +0000 559 175494@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Apologies in advance, if this has been asked or explained previously. </p> <p>Has anyone spoke to Police Scotland or the Procurator Fiscal to either get or establish guidelines on how much evidence is required that could then facilitate a successful prosecution. </p>